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Did you look at the video in the beginning????

Silkypix.

https://www.yahoo.com/tech/panavision-apos-latest-cinema-camera-093000370.html

I have been kicking around buying a 1Dc also. But the C Fast card usage in day and age is just almost a deal breaker to me. Yeah you can do it, but Why LoL. And no real AF to talk about in video, like has been said about the crop in 4k, wow it all adds up to, God I can have a GH5s with a Speedbooster for the same money, or a Sony A7r mk III. And That is not counting the cost saving of only having to buy SD cards! I just don't think they are a viable camera to buy now, yeah if you Already have one, and can afford to not often use it sure, but to buy one now, I think they are way past there real usefulness.

Wow I didn't even realize they were even in business anymore. Who would have thought?

And Sony Owns Toshiba sensor business! https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/4/9848222/sony-buys-toshiba-image-sensor-business

Nobody on here can help this Guy????

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And you are probably right about that. I just looked up when SD cards were invented. It was in 1999. I would bet that was probably the beginning of when you could have Log files loaded into a camera. Just a guess on my part. Sony Memory Stick was invented in 1998. I bet those 2 items started this thing about changeable Logs. Somehow I remember we had setup things that could be removed of some kind, in the Sony ENG cameras I used in the TV station I worked at. And that was Way before 1998 LoL. We, as cameramen, were not allowed to touch them. And we were restricted to not F ing around too much with any camera settings. It was so all the cameras out in the field all looked the same. But maybe I am wrong. Long time ago. I have owned a Lot of more Modern ENG cameras on my own years later. So I may be confusing it with one of them.. I still own 3 or 4 of them. They have been at my daughters house in California for Years and years in the Original big ass plastic cases they come in. One of them is a Sony 3 2/3' Plumbicon Tube camera that I still think put out the most beautiful signal I ever seen.

And that is what Rec. 709 has been doing for 30 years or more.

Yeah it looks like the Sony F35 was made in 2004 at the start. This movie "Bones" was shot, along with, a Arri film camera in it in 2005. So that is a year earlier than what I posted on the 3 ccd Sony camera. https://onset.shotonwhat.com/gallery/on-location-bones-2005/?tag=1721

Don't Leave Max, it will be boring as hell here without you! And maybe the first to have Log might be. "The CvpFileEditor can be used with the HDW-F900R for creation of custom gamma curves. Existing gamma curves, generated for use with the original HDW-F900, can also be applied." 2006 camera. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/633399-REG/Sony_HDWF900RPAC1D_HDW_F900R_CineAlta_24P_HDCAM.html

In RAW, 10-bits would mean 1,024 values of each R,G,B value. That is certain more dynamic range than storing 256 values (8-bit). The problem I have with pushing this is you act like there is No white, No black in 8 bit. I will agree there is less of both but, and less of any color variation, but hell All the colors are there. We are not just seeing B&W on Rec. 709. I seem to have lived for most of my life having color TV's that people have loved to look at and have not felt like they have been screwed over about. And hell most have watched it at 480p, 720p at most. I am sure in the future HDR, 16 bit stuff will be the norm, but right now most people don't give a crap or even know about it. But to push this 10 bit stuff and 20 stop DR the eye see's like we are all going to implode if we don't have it or understand it is just over hype from hell. Rec. 709 is Not going away anytime soon. It is what all 98'% of all TV's in the world can even output. A hell of a lot of people on here act if we don't have a F ing camera that has at Least 15 stops and it can't shoot HDR, or I can't deliver it, shit we are all going to die. Sure if I am shooting a movie with a 200 million dollar budget I would get the new Arri, but we are going to be lucky to have a You Tube or Vimeo audience and 90 % of them will watch it on a device that is showing it in Rec. 709. But hell keep the info coming. Good debate is just that, good debate. We all need to learn about new things, even bone up on the older things. But I think we are letting our passions rule, and that might not be the best approach.

Well this may explain in a Lot more detail than I can about what Jon and Max are arguing about LoL. I will not announce the winner LoL. I don't want to sleep with one eye open for the rest of my life, get it.. https://www.lifewire.com/understanding-nits-lumens-brightness-4125499

Wow that looks like a drawing, or a painting. Man imagine being able to have the skill to do that. But Jon may have done a Photoshop job on us. I don't trust him as of late. They aren't selling that Really good Hashish over there yet are they? Or you using it? That was one of the Very few good things over there about that War.

Yeah at times I can be, well an old sailor LoL. Hey what can I say. That is a pretty serious good looking video of that lens. I never realized they were that good. Hmm. And what surprised me the most is, well I know it is in the grading, but that video looked more like Olympus colors than Panny colors. They have come a long ways with the GH5 I guess.

And some weeds are good to smoke also! And that way you get a lot more mellow than most women I have ever met!

Well I can tell you from living in the United States I know no one that looks like the bottom Canon grabs, unless they have a sunburn, and I know more than half of people that I know look like the people in the Arri shots, well at least in the winter time LoL. Maybe they are all from England, and that might be true. To be honest neither one of the screen grabs look right to me. Ergo Canon is not that bad, and Arri sure as hell is not that bad in real life shots..

Well when I read what Max posts as of late I can't tell if it is Confusing to me or Max is Confused LoL. Time will tell I guess. It is probably me Confused.

If anyone has the Sony 24-105mm F4 lens you might want to read these posts about Focus Shift! https://***URL removed***/forums/thread/4251069

Maybe this ought to apply on this thread? https://nypost.com/video/fistfight-on-a-train-ends-in-a-man-hug/

I loved the Arri shots also but in these screen grabs above I think all the Arri stuff look too pale and all the Canon stuff too reddish. But Canon seems to always lean toward red in faces.

Here is why you Don't want to shoot in HDR!! You will look like this. Just kidding Jon.

We want to see pictures of Hot Women, not out of focus Weeds!

I think maybe you have been on Too many excursions LoL. Your focal is well, out of focus. There is no real definition, meaning of "focal excursion". As for a zoom you need a 70-200mm equivalent lens. Maybe a 70-300mm, but they don't make really good ones of those. Anything above a 300mm equivalent I don't recommend a Zoom, just a Prime, But there is a 100-400mm that people use. Hard to do handheld. But you get into haze, heat wave problems, too much compression with a lens that long. Now if you Really want a zoom lens I have had several Fujinon lenses like it. Not a 99, but couple of 70's. Now that 99 will end up being 1700mm, and with the 2x factor on a m4/3 it will be 3400mm, that ought to do it. https://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Fujinon-XA99X8-4BESM-T-8-4-832mm-f-1-7-4-2-2-3-EFP-Box-Lens-Finance-w-AC/281561037688?hash=item418e587b78:g:nk8AAOSwk5FUtCSy