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Nobody is saying it is a Red camera, but it is a 4k camera that just happens to fit in your pocket and you have with you 24/7. And yes people have made a few big time full feature movies with them. Do the people in the audience know that, doubt they care if it is a good story with good audio. I would use one over a old 8mm to make a movie. I have no clue why people discourage new, young or old people from learning the craft of movie making. A cell phone is a great way to see if you are really interested, or talented at it enough to move up. It is basically free to experiment with. Why the hate I have no clue. I would imagine the pace at what cell phones have advanced on video has had a good influence on the big boys. Pretty embarrassing to have a cheap ass cell phone do 4k and try to sell a camera for 6000 bucks that doesn't.

I shoot a lot on my iPhone 6s Plus. It is a lot better than you think with the proper apps. It is a low light beast no, is a MFT camera a low light best no. BM cameras are not low light beasts either. Lots of high end stuff does not do 4k, but iPhones do. So that is a edge also. And I have it with me all the time, so that is a plus also. And they have OIS on them also. And my Came TV 32 bit Gimbal cost me 299 bucks, a big plus money wise. Some of you guys sound like the old turds on DPR. Anything phone related Has to be crap. Far from it.

On a serious note if you have a 40 million budget on a film I don't think owning a trio of those is a bad investment, not counting they are a tax write off in the end. And you can rent them out to poor people like us.

I always wanted one of those years ago, but they were very expensive then. Everyone else wanted one also LoL. Seems like younger people are getting back into film cameras as of late.

Well a 57 Chevy was probably only 1200 bucks new either but now...

Probably used for a car wreck scene LoL.

Well at 40 to 50 grand for the trio used I would hope they are pretty nice! But they are not too bad to rent, and they are one of the better lens sets to use for sure. Nice look.

What pisses me off on high end cameras is the damn money they charge for add on's, grips, storage, LCD's you name it. Hell they could give you the body and you still can't afford the other parts LoL. I know Red, Arri are small company's, but still they out date the one you buy in 6 months. Black Magic is a little better, and for a new company, i think only three years producing cameras, they are a force to be reckoned with down the road.

The only real negative was that it was a vacuum pump for dust. It can be in really dusty situations. But the later one that you twist people say it takes a longer time to zoom. So Canon can't win. Also there was lens creep on the older one as they got older. I would say the newer one is probably better, had both, but really not worth 3 times more better that is for sure. Tripod use lens creep should never be a problem. The newer one does not extend if my memory holds, where the older one does a lot. So if you are using a Matte Box that Could be a problem.

I don't see a Pana GH4 or a GH5 being taken very seriously at all in LA. My daughter lives near there, and people in California have tons more money than any other state other than say up East. BMW's are as common as a Honda Civic out there. I would imagine a Red is nearly as common as a GH4 in the Cine community out there. At least many having a C100 or better. I know that camera does not matter that much in reality, but if you show up with a GH3 and a guy has a Red well not too sure your talent counts that much. Place is crawling with talent!

Well I am down in Florida right now living with wife's brother for a couple months, and he is into ME TV pretty big time. I am amazed how good Gun Smoke, Perry Mason, etc look on a 720 LCD TV ??

Doesn't look like it is too good for close up! http://www.vintagelensesforvideo.com/sankor-16f-review/

Well Panasonic used to make the sensors for the older Oly, Pana camera themselves. So I am not sure this is a Sony or Pannnasonic sensor in the EM1 mkII and the GH5??

It looks like in the comments he was wrong. 200 is the base, 400 might be base when using V Log. I think they are the very same sensor. They could not have afforded to develop 2 of them. But we will find out soon enough.

There is a damn big void in Cameras, in the 2500 to 4000 Dollar price range, new or used ,that can do 4k. Black Magic only one that has more than anyone that has a quality output.

Yikes! Pocket Cinema Camera (1080p25) 64 GB card, recording RAW = approximately 15 minutes and I thought that was bad!! I think BMPCC Raw is 12bit??

Not sure this has been posted before. DR better, looks like low light even worse on high end. https://***URL removed***/forums/thread/4108345 I would guess Panasonic GH5 will be close to it sensor, specs wise.

Wow that is a crazy good deal. Grats.

Well I don't even own a Apple Laptop but I know that the older, by older I mean made late 2013 or later will work fine. A late 2013 Pro can be bought for less than 1,000 dollars and will work.

I agree, a BMPCC is probably the best way to learn Video. And like you said it is as good as a $5,000.00 camera output wise.

One reason I am not fond of cameras that are bad at low light. Have to shoot wide open a lot ,and good luck with keeping things in focus. Now snap focus on a tripod well maybe, but that is a small part of a movie overall.

https://***URL removed***/articles/6287665194/understanding-old-nikon-lenses-ai-ai-s-af-and-af-s

Yes, not sure how long it will last at that price??

Get the 4k one!! Crazy cheap. http://nofilmschool.com/2017/01/cinemartin7-inch-hd-monitor-99-dollars

Well you can buy a Panasonic G7 used for less than 400 dollars and get 4k with it. And they are good at low light also. Plenty of used GH4's out there now for less than 800 dollars also. It is for the money probably the best video camera you can ever buy. Also Black Magic BMPCC and BMCC are really a great way to use a raw camera, and get, for the money, the best Cine look for the money also. Used Sony A6000 are cheap also. The main thing you need to do no matter what you buy when you get it shoot, shoot, shoot ,edit ,edit, edit. By doing it over and over to see what you did right and what you did wrong best way you can really learn what to do. I would suggest using Black Magic Resolve because it is free. Really a powerful software package. I could go on forever on cameras, but you are the one that has to make that decision. Plenty of info on the web. I like Camcorders myself, but good ones are pretty expensive. They are made to shoot video and need very little rigging to do it. Not some camera that has video added on to it.