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That is not the experience I had after they did the firmware update to raise the top ISO to 80,000. But what you show is pretty ugly lol. Could be, things progress.

I thought you were going to use your EOS-M for that Marty??

Yeah pretty wimpy codec but it was down sampled from 4K. Canon proved you don't need 400mbit a second to make stuff happen if you can somehow make magic happen. Their Color Science at the time helped a lot also. You need to look at some of its footage. Even the original Sony A7s is no slouch at 1080p.

I think the original Canon C100 has about as clean of output there was. Sure 1080p but..

As great as the output is on it Red needs to come up with some kind of fix. Then they will have a Very desirable product. You can't expect clients to be perfect all the time.

Sure in a studio environment on a tripod, run n gun, moving from scene to scene, changing lens quickly. Try doing sports, running around shooting your 3 year old son outdoors not so easy. That is the reason you Should shoot raw so you Can recover mistakes, but if you don't have the ability to recover than not the best tool to be using. The Komodo does not sound like the best overall option then. Who wants to worry about having to do perfect exposures all the time.

That is fine if you are in some super controlled environment but that is not always reality. Significant, hmm maybe not always. The old "if it can go to shit it probably will" apply pretty big time to Cine Photography. Video is so damn complex it is nearly impossible to do in any reliable sense.

Wow that sounds pretty damn limiting. That is a shame.

Yeah must admit it seems to be the best looking footage I have ever seen out of a Red camera.

Well my problem is I always seem to have 3 to 4 different brands at the same time. I am down to 3 now, Whoopee, But you get the point.

A $1000.00 for me in retirement, or anyone not making a living doing this stuff is a bridge too far. High end lenses are a hard sell for non pros. Sure if you are going to stay on that platform for years and years but thigs are moving Way too fast to stick to one brand now. There is just a lot of great stuff out now. Heck look how cheap the Sony A7 IV is. And that is a pretty amazing camera for the money.

Yeah, the Pana 12-60mm 3.5-5.6 is a really nice, not too expensive lens. Very true. I am not a fan of a video lens that doesn't have a constant aperture. The 14-140mm is not so hot for that. Now for Photography, sure no problem. And you are right, the Pana 12-60mm 3.5-5.6 on a GH5 is a dream stabilized package.

There is no such thing as dirt cheap M4/3 lens that are the top end stuff. Any 2.8 even F4 stuff is damn expensive even if itis 5 years old. Yeah Kit lenses are cheap, but they are cheap from any company. The only great, relatively cheap lens for M4/3 is the 14-140mm. I think they are a bargain, and the later ones are Really good end to end. But they are hardly great for video. The Olympus ones with the clutch in them for manual focus is the way to go video wise, but you had better have some deep pockets to buy them.

WOW.

Where did you hear that at?? Pretty dope if true. ProRes is the cat's ass even in this day.

Now for REALLY long use a B4 2/3" ENG lens on a M4/3 camera and you are easily over 1000mm.

Yeah really nice lens from any manufacture is not cheap. I have had like 3 or 4 different brands of cameras at the same time and I find no cheap way to go on any of them other than older glass, and even then Nice older glass is more than new stuff. No way to beat the system. Now sure size wise it is really hard to beat M4/3, but for video hardly anyone uses a longer lens. For birding yeah super long lens do look pretty stupid. The Nortrups are a great example of looking well, like jackasses using them. So yeah for super long lens needs yeah I would vote for M4/3.

Oh that is all we need is 3D porn lol. 😬 Oh the price of progress.

They will probably only sell 500 cameras and go out of business. Problem solved. If Olympus couldn't make it happen this company sure as hell won't either.

Oh come on I hope you are not using a Sony A6500 as the holy grail of Sony color... I think the latest Sony colors are right at the top of the heap CS wise. Sure the older stuff was wonky, but I think the older A7s stuff was unique enough to be pretty good. I like mine yet. I personally think Canon has gone backwards. Nikon, too contrasty and dark, Panny FF yeah good stuff.

Oh I agree on the lens part. But once you have gone FF it is Damn hard to go back to even APSC let alone M4/3.

Well since I will Never ever use those silly ass googles I guess I never will, I will just see things in a different perceptive using a 21mm lens from my normal 45mm ish view from my eyes. Not really into looking like a total MTV Jackass wearing a headset like you will need. But young people do dumb shit.

I think it is suicide at the price point they have. Even 2K sounds a bit high.

Seems to me you could nearly accomplish the same thing by using say a 21mm lens on a FF camera and disabling the auto corrections on the lens. Might be a bit uglier, been a long time since I have used something like that not in auto, like years and years.

I would imagine the Japanese government owns Olympus?? They pretty much bail everyone out just like China. Total embarrassment to let workers loose job and pensions.