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Well when you have just total untruths and lies I am not going to just let people Bull Crap people that really don't know what's happening. Nikon has done a disservice to the people that have bought this camera thinking it is all pie in the sky on this Raw thing. This Might happen, but when you paid what you have paid to hopefully get it they ought to be a heck of a lot more honest than they have like it or not. Is it a bad camera no. But it will be a worse camera if this doesn't ever happen. And That might really happen.By the time it ever comes out their edge will be gone. Everyone else will have it. Typical Nikon in the last few years. Undeceive as heck. A ship adrift. I will say no more on this subject. I respect your thoughts @PannySVHS. I will figure out some way as old as I am to put good old Skippy Peanut Butter on Ignore. ?

I doubt BMD is going to get off clean on this. bRaw is really as far as I can tell not a True Raw like CDNG. It is being manipulated. Well probably Every Raw is in a sense, but not to the extent of bRaw. So some real Grey areas that Red will pursue in the long run you can bet that. Between Red and Arri both have a lock on compression patents.

I never said they can't ever do it. I said they, you are going to pay out the ass to use it. Just like they will pay Apple to use it. Jesus. You haven't figured out shit. The whole damn world is ALL about the money. It's the reason you go to work. You do work don't you?? It's the reason you paid out the ass for your Z6 when you first bought it. Pretty bad investment right now isn't it. Red and Apple loves you. And Atomos will love your money when you Have to buy a Recorder to use Raw on your Z6. It will probably takes a 120 Dollar HDMI cable from Atomos to even use it to boot. They all have you by the Short Hairs. But you have it all figured out. Yeah right.

He is a Photo guy. Industrial photography at that. Razor sharp is the hot setup for that. Video not so much. There is a reason things are a "Good Deal". No free lunch.

Because it will be compressed you ignorant bastard. Are you Really that stupid. It will infringe on their Patents. You think the hell you are going to get pure Raw over HDMI, do you? SDI yeah. And even if you could do you want 550 to 750mbps data? Your piss ass card in it would last like 5 minutes or less, Way less. Nikon and Atomos is going to have to pay for Everything they sell to Red on that camera and that recorder whether you believe it or not. Sure if Might happen but it will make Red even more money. They will laugh all the way to the Bank. Even BMD is paying for every camera using bRaw. It is all about Compression that Red owns. They have it locked up. Why do you think Apple is damn rich? Every damn company in the world that uses ProRes has to pay them a license to use it, just like Red does for Compression.

There are plenty of good LCD lights out now. You just have to have several of them and use bounce and diffusion panels, boxes, even naked at a distance to get what you need. This is not Rocket Science. Not something new. It is just using new tech. And you can't really get by with just one of those lights. So that is a pretty expensive rig for the average person. If you are a Solo shooter lighting has to be a hell of a lot more streamlined than those kinds of rigs. That is more studio stuff. I have several of the little USB powered LCD small handheld lights and they work pretty damn good at small distances. But I have diffusion panels, boxes for the big time stuff I never do anymore lol. That stuff really never goes out of style, just the lighting Medium.. If you have a Big Boy Breaker Box you can buy the old Analog lighting stuff now for peanuts. In the winter time you might appreciate them lol. Summer time, not so much.

Trust me, he sort of grows on you.

Red won and Sony didn't, end of story. You can believe all you want.

Yeah but he could have just stayed in his room and ate a 59 cent Rama Noodle packet for what he had.

See I get to laugh my Butt off again. Keep it coming. And to the people that don't know nothing. Welcome to life. There are great people and average people. Imagine my surprise. There are pretty damn smart people on here even, and some that aren't. You seem to be falling in the latter category. Hey you will learn with time and patience, and trusting some people on here more than the horseshit you learn for most YouTube sights on this subject, etc.etc., and pretending you know it all. It would seem you don't. I don't know it all, but I know a lot more of what you are pretending to know about the subject. You think this is the first time this has ever happened? That happened 5 years ago! Did you read the F ing article? That didn't just happen yesterday. News Alert, Red has Raw Compression, and has had it locked up.

My "knowledge" spans 35, 40 years of doing this stuff real time. Reading Tons of articles, working with Pro people for years at times for a living. Asking real questions at rental houses, repair techs, on and on. You don't learn this stuff in a year, even 10 years unless you are some gifted as hell person. You Have to go out and do it. Experience the wins and loses. Regret the dumb ass equipment you thought was good, remember the surprises on the good stuff you bought. You learn from all of it. That is gained knowledge. I am sure I am far, far from the smartest person on here, especially with the newer stuff. But I have been there done it for probably as long as you have been alive. That's why I know and why. Why don't you read, if you can read, this little article about what Red did to Sony. And see if Red doesn't have all the power in the world to stop little old Nikon dead in their tracks. http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/343675

You Have to be 11 years old. YOU don't know shit about this stuff. Why do you keep making an ass of yourself? I pray you comment everyday so I can just laugh my butt off lol.

Man if 400, 500 Dollars a year is killing you video Might not be the hobby you ought to be in lol. If you are in business, hell it is a tax write off. What is the big deal?? Nothing, I mean Nothing is better than their overall plans like the price or not.. I am not a big fan of paying monthly either, but if you want to get the job done you pay like it or not. Why have 10 other programs combined to make all of it happen from different manufacturers? And yeah use the free, or heck even paid Resolve. Learn it. Down the road it will probably be the top dog overall. But for all you need, Photos, Video, etc Resolve is a long ways from that yet.

Do you think say an Olympus EM1 even might be able to eliminate having to use a Gimbal? They are Really good IBIS wise with the right Olympus lenses on them. Man I Hate using a Gimbal, let along carrying one around. You can buy a EM1 cheaper than a G85. Crazy good Photo camera, maybe not so hot on the video side. The mk II is a lot better on the video side.

Almost all ENG cameras, even today, use a Monochrome eyepiece. It just has more distinction than Color does. Way easier to focus.

Sure if you don't want to compress it then go ahead. Red can't stop that. But you are paying Apple for every camera and recorder sold also just to use ProRes Raw. Add Red to the mix and hell you might be talking big bucks. And over HDMI you are going to have to compress the living hell out of it. That is where Red has Nikon, Atomos by the balls. If Red doesn't get the money they demand from Every Nikon sale, Every Atomos sale it will NEVER happen. And even then they might say piss on you, we don't Need your stinking money. When it comes to Raw Compression Red has every patent in the world tied up on that stuff. They were even ahead of Arri on that stuff. Red has been in the Digital camera business for a LONG time. They shit around for years, Oh it will be next, year, no it will be 2 years, on and on before they even finally bought out the Red One. But they had patents going Way back. I know, I had one on order for what seemed like Years, and finally gave up. I had to move on.

No Kinefinity is already eating their lunch, what will they be and others in a few more years? We don't seem to even talk about Kinefinity much anymore, but they have some hell of a good, inexpensive cameras out now.

I would think on the wide end it will be distorted at the edges without the new Metabones on it, Especially wide open, which sad to say is the main reason you would buy it, for the speed. I would imagine BMD does this to get a bit sharper image, which is probably happening in the middle on a "normal lens", but really wide angle lenses take a hit on the edges. I don't think it effects telephoto lenses at all or much at all. The steeper the angle of light hitting the sensor the worse it is going to be. If you look at old Manual Lenses the wide angle ones tend to have the rear glass nearly at the lens mount. The mid Teles and up the glass is way up in the barrel. That means the closer the glass is to the rear mount the more radical the light bend is. Now on my Sony FE FF lenses even the wide angle ones were recessed a fair bit in and were more of a rectangle than a round exit on the lens. I think Sony probably has some of the best designed lenses for Mirrorless cameras out. I am not saying the RF, or Z mounts are bad, but I have never used or even seen a lens they use. But I bet the older EF, Nikon F lenses have the same old designs for the old DSLR bodies, even the newer versions of them.

Kind of a bit outdated article, but I think you get the point. Should help with wide angle lenses, which is a pretty big fad in video now. Doesn't look like a earthshaking difference though. But every bit helps. https://www.lensrentals.com/blog/2015/01/a-thinner-sensor-stack/

If you can't see that the Panasonic S1 has Way better output than the Z6 I think you just need to find another means of work. Well we will all be dead before Raw comes to the Z6 I would imagine. Red has probably said F U. And I don't give a flying rats ass about the Photography side. They screwed up the CS so bad on it I would Never want to shoot with it for that reason alone..

That is because Nikon doesn't know as much about video as well as Panasonic does. Pretty simple. Panasonic has been making Broadcast Cine stuff for hell 30 years, or more. Mostly 1/2" sensor 3 CCD stuff in the early years. Way cheaper price than Sony, Ikegami was charging. Yeah Nikon made like VHS type consumer video camcorders for years long time ago, I had a couple. They had really good lenses on them. They got the job done, but they were not as good as Sony Camcorders, really nothing was at the time was as good to be honest. But hey you gets what you pay for.

Sounds to me you could use the old one on the new one if there is that little difference? Maybe it protrudes further into the sensor box though?

I think Red cameras are done in the long run unless they Really drop their prices big time. The Chinese company's will eat them alive in the long run. So I think it is more of a money grab right now on these Patent fights..

Here is the video. It doesn't state Anything about Raw. Just 10bit 4K 30p.

And I thought I was bored lol.