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So for low noise and high ISO shooting what’s the science in that? Many are pushing the a7iv over a7siii/fx3 but the latter has dual iso at 12,800 vs 3200 - which seems more useful. Just slap on an ND and you’ll have more flexibility in lower lit situations without lighting on the a7siii over a7iv.

Yea that makes a ton of sense what you said earlier in. However, if you’re going to be filming footage that isn’t properly lit and only using available light - then it would stand to reason that finding people who have tutorials on resolve that shoot similarly would be your best bet. A professional colourist may not be the best help for someone making videos with ambient light and grading on a MacBook with an a7s iii lol.

I am skeptical about that claim but open. Do you have a reference? I’d did a quick check: #1 MrBeast - 1DX mk2 #2 Jake Paul - a7s ii #3 Markiplier - a7 iii #4 Rhett and Link - maybe a6500 couldn’t find definitive #5 Unspeakable - newer Sony lines Other popular ones I could find are canon 70D, GoPro Hero 5 etc. Jenelle Elliana has over 2 million subscribers and uses her iPhone to film. I think that’s the point - people are making content watched by millions and making millions using low budget setups

I’m really saying that each tool has its place. Cell phones have limitations and won’t be an A cam on a budgeted set but for YT? Why not? Most consumers/viewers probably wouldn’t notice or care if their YT channel shot with an iPhone 13 Pro or an Alexa MINI. That’s just my understanding when talking to friends who aren’t into videography or photography.

Yes - makes sense. We never see the images that looked like shit. Thus further selling the myth of buying equipment for a specific image. A little disappointing but it’s true.

Does the fx3 have full hdmi? Maybe worth a look as I think the image is equal if not better in shadows

This was my thought - if you’re 70/30 in favor of video - the benefits of a7s low light and dual iso options can be great if you only need photos for personal travel etc and not corporate work. I think it makes Ana regiment for a7s > a7 for hybrid considering most are non professional and don’t need much cropping.

Good to hear!!! Would MP make a difference in high shutter speed sports photography if not cropping in?

That's very well said and true. I guess another consideration is the purpose and intent of filming - if it's production level/paid then sure raw codecs from a camera probably aren't the way to go. But for the enthusiast/prosumer folks or even for pros on vacation etc., will we get to a point that traveling with a hybrid like an XT4/X100V etc. are not worth the cost of size and ease of a cellphone when you're outputting to YouTube and sharing on social media?

I came across this video and felt that for an average consumer, not cropping or printing small photos, this could be a feasible option for photography. Any thoughts on this? and this:

It is CERTAINLY daunting, that said - I agree with you and the general advice given. I downloaded Resolve 18 and look forward to watching tutorials and giving it a go. I'll look to start off with basic LUT/light grading and may or may not ever make it to adding nodes for masking etc. For me and my hobby/enthusiasm - less is more. Can't argue with skill - it's important in all areas of work, well said. This is beyond true for myself and others just reading forums and watching videos! This is more true for amateurs who buy equipment thinking they'll be able to replicate an image without knowing how that image was created and realizing that both they need more technical skill AND may need a different camera system to get a good enough image with minimal work. well said! That is what I am thinking. Either keep the R6 or if I do choose to move to an FX3/AS7III I can pair it with a cheap used Nikon for sports photography. This is where I'm leaning. I do, however, like the Fuji x100v though it wouldn't help for sports but it's okay because I'm not doing it for paid work - more home/personal stuff. Wow pretty cool! I like the narrative here and goes to show audio is so important! Well done!

This is a very pleasing image! Do you guys feel that at some point phones manufacturers will meet or ecplise camera companies in image or will they (like Apple) start making cameras?

Hey man, not sure what your deal is but I’m just discussing cameras and filming. Have a good one.

Sigma 70-700 2.8 tamron 35 1.8 Thanks! Sounds like you get the overthinking. And that’s the plan - shoot with this for a bit and continue to improve grading etc and find a workflow. Some of the samples I shared the creators mentioned just dokng some adjustments then dropping a rec-709 lut and maybe a stylized on or further adjustments but didn’t take long.

I get it but I am just a Type-A overthinker and have consistently responded thankfully. Yes you're right the overthinking has led to moving from system to system over about 6 years. I have learned why and learn each time and typically come here when I am in need of help because of the good advice and healthy discourse. For example, I got an XT-2 when I was more focused on video and photography for sports; quickly I learned ISO performance and AF tracking was important - so a7ii; and then the photos got better but the skin tones were really difficult to make look good....I believe I may have gotten too excited by reviews and pulled the trigger on an R6...now I am convinced that I will need to shoot more clog3 with the R6 and figure out how comfortable I am improving in Resolve and if it works for photography etc. I'm learning now that what some told me earlier - buy separate for photo and video - is what I'm leaning toward. Learning and growing folks - from a type-A personality (can't change that). Thanks for the dialogue and advice thus far!

If you're referring to me - that is both unnecessary and rude, bullying if you will. Commenting on a thread isn't an opt-out; but an opt-in. Feel free to not respond to me in the future.

That is a good point - I will consider that; not having to have/change lenses and the baked in JPG look is an appeal when hanging with friends/family

Excellent point. Great way to validate multiple perspectives. I have to continue to work with the R6 before I make a decisions, which is aided by the supply-chain issues (FX3 and X100V are both out of supply everywhere). What draws me to the X100V is the fact that it could easily brought to a bar and not be a pain to use; the FX3, maybe the R5C, have a similar level of ergonomics and form factor that may increase the motivation for me to use in non-professional settings (stealth mode) compared to other Hybrids.

I appreciate this response a lot. I'm glad I created this post and the subsequent discussion/debate. I am going to: 1. Work on exposing/grading my Canon R6 footage 2. Consider a video-centric replacement (I'd love the C70 but it is a bit bulky for run/and/gun-travel) 3. Consider the FX3 or R5C for video centric and the Fuji X100V for photo due to its portability (could bring it to dinner/bar/travel/anywhere and not have the hassle of changing lenses etc.)

Discussing - not arguing - some of the flippant responses by those who want to prove that the camera doesn't matter anymore makes it seem that way. I enjoy healthy discussion to better understand something. I understand that using LUTs and grading will make a difference, my original comments/intent was to discuss the gear that would allow one to get cinema like looks with the reference material I provided (they're not using lights or a crew, just run-and-gun and grading).

I understand your points. They’re well reasoned. that said it feels like the argument is so far in one direction it’s like saying why buy a camera that can achieve a good look like this? Just buy a t3i? If there was no discernible difference between a gh6 and c70/fx3 then everyone should sell the latter and just buy the former. Or maybe just a hacked gh2 ? I get it - grading is important but the device matters too. I downloaded resolve and will be looking at tutorials this weekend !

There’s no reason to have an fx3 over a7s3?

FX3 😉

Oh and this :