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Clearly great points. But I think it’s still missing the mark, given that the user in my scenario wants a quick turn around in many lighting conditions outside of our control what sensors currently produce an image you love with minimal effort. the gx85 image is lovely but also the kids skin looks deathly anemic. Another sensor and processor would.l render that scene differently. That’s the conversation

eva1 looks way better here to my eye. Any thought why that is? Can that look be had in a mirrorless smaller body camera ?

iPhone 14 Pro and Ricoh GRIIIx. Not much currently would motivate me into a system. The c70 and mage would be perfect but the body is way too large for what I’d want. But it’s interesting to see that different companies focus on different aspects of image - the c70 looks closer to the desirable images of top cinema cameras to my eyes. Something many have said who work in the industry is that the Sony mirrorless has great tech but look “clinical.” Although I’ve seen some folks create lovely images with them - but the work to get there is much more than on cinema cameras etc. a few colorists on Reddit’s sub noted that canon was a bit easier to work with but Sony came to them looking pretty ugly and took more time - digital was the word they used.

Yes good points. this in a small body would be amazing:

picked c70 every time they had the person shown. I guess I like those tones. Does anyone agree?

I remember this ! it was posted here years ago! I remember trying ML and was blown away how good it looked but how hard it was to use. I think the fx3/r5c can give those looks now.

The first few scenes on the train felt like a movie. Loved it! In another thread I bumped from 2015 where folks discussed cameras and color, as is my goal, some commented that as brands have moved to mirrorless they’re chasing resolution and in doing so neglecting color and overall image. Something to the effect that chasing greens versus other colors, has had a negative impact on the way color is rendered and that’s 9 years ago. Worth a review that thread. I originally curious about modern cameras that produce that movie look in the first video without lighting makeup etc. the skin tones and overall look felt less digital and more movie like. That’s what I was getting at with what brands are trying to achieve that ? What models most of us can purchase today gets us to that.

Will have to check it out!

Very interesting dialogue, glad i found this!

Instead, people respond to posts that weren't written and proselytize and talk down. It's pretty pathetic.

Literally a non-controversial, non-trolling, basic question that you can partake in politely or not.

Not really, I've asked basic questions for discussion purposes but the elitism and condescension as your post demonstrates is strong here - i'd rather just find a place with more amateur enthusiasts rather than certain folks who think highly of themselves

Same! The color really brought us into a different/alternate universe!

I just realized - I did come to the wrong forum. I just assumed this was a wider community than what actually is. Many view themselves as filmmakers. I do not, I’m sure there’s other forums/places to chat just about equipment etc and not ruffle weathers of those who see themselves as “filmmakers”.

Agreed he was really animated and passionate thought it was a cool breakdown of the trailer. What was your take on the first film?

Haha some of you remind me of guys in HS who hated jocks but then grew up to find your own niche and identity and became the jocks.

interesting tests

How would you categorize some of the main cameras discussed here ?

I read that clog2 has slightly more DR than clog3 but that in clog2 the NR is turned down/off and the shadows are way noisier than clog3. How do you guys see that trade-off? worth it? or would you have rather reduce noise in post.

you must be fun at parties 😉 - i'm not purchasing anything i enjoy discussing tech - i also play guitar and have been in bands - i enjoy discussing amp modeling but am not purchasing it. Don't get so butt hurt 😉 Looks good! Keep at it, man! makes sense when you decouple that from the original intent of the thread - minimal processing/grading or even SOOC. Great question! I don't know but there are appreciable differences which is logical when you factor the dynamic relationship between varying sensors and processors, to assume they produce the same image and tangentially discuss lighting and makeup is besides the point. There's a reason Canon was toted as the king of color for a long time, and Fuji for their stylized looks. That's fair - have you noticed a brand that is putting out improvements in these areas that's caught your attention in the current market?

Will check soon! Thanks 🙏 Under very clear differences and Fuji and canon have a much more appealing image. That said I show the clips to family or friends and they always pick canon then Fuji

Great problem solving thinking guys. so my next question is, has anyone found a way to shape Sony images to resemble the skintones that clog2 provides in the c70? I find those to be the most pleasing images I’ve seen in awhile.

Seems fairly reasonably, at this point I could see hopping to canon if they gave their prosumer cameras CLog2

Love this movie: Shot on DJI ronin 4d pretty great image price and size are dealbreakers