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It depends on your needs but the XSW-D is a more comprehensive system as it also encompasses different transmitter input types such as the XLR one and even a jack one for instruments etc. Again, there are also different type of matching output receivers so I bought the XLR version as its more appropriate for the cameras/recorders/consoles that I'll be using it with than the 3.5mm one. I'll be adding the XLR transmitter as soon as I've tested the lav system as I have a different need for that option for different applications. Funnily enough, I also have a need for it as an instrument transmitter as well so that one will probably follow at some point as well. From that point of view, it is a far better option for me as it enables me to build a very flexible little system. If your needs are just for a wireless lav system with a 3.5mm output then it is less clear cut, although you do have to add in the cost of the SmartLav for the Rode and evaluate whether that is better than the supplied ME2-11 with the Sennheiser system. At the end of the day though, the deciding factor should definitely be the quality of the box it comes in like it was for me

Its £899 body only in the UK and the 12-60 kit is £1079....so taking that 20% difference would equate to $999

It came in a very nice box though so I'll be keeping it on that basis.

I can only comment on the size of them as I haven't actually used them as yet but yeah from that point of view they are great ! I'll let you know in a couple of days when I've tested them.

I am single handedly claiming the credit for the announcement of this product today as it was clearly triggered by me buying the Sennheiser version less than 24 hours ago !

They also say its compatible with the T and TL but there is nothing from Leica that would suggest that. And they say their info is "per Sigma". Such clarity!

They had way too much tempting stuff so I bought a pack of their camera Top Trumps cards and made a hasty exit!

So what you are saying is that if someone made a smart remote record controller that, amongst other features, knew what mode you were in in picture mode and automatically switched to that mode and THEN put it in record then someone who made such a device might find themselves with a market for it ?

A new Atom X module will allow you to add SDI input to the Ninja V. It seems to be stackable so you can use it with another Atom X module such as the TC one but can't see anything official about that. https://www.atomos.com/AtomX

Found a similar set to in Berlin today so currently having a game. The poor Leica R9 was absolutely rinsed by the Nikon D850 in the first round.

I thought it was a few weeks out yet. I'm going to wait on it and get in Japan next month. The SA version is apparently going to be very cheap there and I've got a couple of SA mount lenses that would make it worthwhile. My CL breaking point is £1200 as I missed one at that price a few weeks ago. I'm in Berlin at the moment and have the T with me so I'm going to have a sniff around Fotomax etc tomorrow and see if they have the Panasonic in stock as I am interested in what's going on in the app when you connect it....

Could be that Sigma are being conservative as Leica didn't do the firmware updates until after their announcement and the TL2 is still TBA so they would still have to do a "selected cameras only" caveat on it til that is released. I'll be dissapointed if they leave the T out as there is no technical reason why it and the TL shouldn't be involved but I'll probably channel that indignation into picking up a used CL. That'll show 'em

They seem to be making a presumption with the MC21 as it doesn't appear in the Leica notes or the compatibility list. I don't necessarily think its the wrong presumption but I think Sigma still haven't u turned on Friday's u turn yet?

And why have they still not? The SL and the CL firmware updates came out after Sigma's announcement and the TL2 one is announced but not ready so maybe they're still waiting for that to do a U turn on their original U turn ! A lot of the noise is about how much this adpater will benefit the SL users but people forget that if you want an APS-C L mount camera then the T/TL/CL ones are currently the only game in town and lenses like the 18-35 and 50-100 ART will go down a storm for thos cameras. I'm wondering actually whether APS-C may well become Leica's niche in the alliance as if Panasonic continue with MFT they might not be interested in an inbetween sensor size and whilst Sigma may well stick with APS-C it will be with the even more niche Foveon sensor.

Good news. Odd that they have (currently) left the T/TL/TL2 behind with the update, though the TL2 is listed on the new compatibility chart released by Leica for Panasonic lenses by an undated future firmware update. Again though I suppose it may change over time to bring the TL and T onboard. Hopefully this will prompt a news update from Sigma regarding the MC21 now being compatible as I'd like to get on and order it.

There are plenty of Leica's (mine included) that have inexpensive non-Leica lenses on them like Voigtlander and 7Artisans to be fair. I suspect there are plenty of us who won't baulk at the vulgarity of a Sigma ART lens given the opportunity.

You are right to say that this may be subject to change and I do hope it is addressed in a future update. However, the SL already uses DFD and the 24-90 has OIS so these are not new things for it. They don't have IBIS but this shouldn't preclude lens compatibility, although overall stabilisation won't be as effective as a combined OIS/IBIS combination. There may well be additional operations in the protocol but there should be a base level to this protocol that will be compatible. This is something that is illustrated by the 5 year old Leica 23mm lens being perfectly functional on @Andrew Reid 's Panasonic S1. I honestly think this whole thing has to be viewed through the prism (ho ho) of what we know about the relationship between Panasonic and Leica over the electronics in the Leica cameras. If there is an incompatibility between Panasonic and Leica cameras from a software control point of view then it is essentially an incompatibility between Panasonic and itself, which seems as unlikely as it is unfixable. After all, what do we think were the exemplar lenses used by Panasonic during development of the S1 and by Sigma during the development of the MC21? For me, I think its safe to presume that they would have been using the only available L mount lenses available, which were the Leicas. Something which, again, is shown by the Leica lens working on the Panasonic body. Would there be tweaks along the way to accomodate different lenses or future options? I don't doubt that possibility but, again, it seems clear that that has been done without destroying the backwards compatibility. The performance of Novoflex's attempt at making an EF adapter is, to me, a very different proposition to Sigma making one. Sigma not only have a far more extensive track record in the EF side of the adapter but they are official partners in the L side of the adapter whereas Novoflex would be having to reverse engineer both parts of the puzzle. If we leave aside the EF version of the adapter, then the situation with the SA version of it becomes even less understandable, when one side of the mount is their own protocol and the other one is an alliance that they are an official party to. It doesn't seem credible to me that six months after the official public announcement of this alliance, not to mention at least a similar period unofficially before this, Sigma have discovered six days before they release it that it doesn't work on Leica cameras. There was plenty of time to get in front of this before the Panasonic lenses and Sigma adapter were released to clarify just how all encompassing, or not, the L mount alliance was going to be. Is it definitely something sinister in terms of protectionism from Leica? It is not difficult to see it in that way (as I have ) but at the very least its sloppy and doesn't send out a great message about how interlocked and cohesive this alliance truly is and whether Leica are a reluctant member. The cohesion is important for all three of them when they are asking people to adopt what is to most people a brand new mount. The attitude to Leica is always going to be the attitude to Leica unfortunately. But as someone who drinks so much of their Koolaid that I've bought a Sodastream and the syrup to make my own in case they run out, I have to say its dissapointed me and will do nothing to change the attitude from everyone else. We might only be a firmware update away from all this being moot of course.

We outed them over this last year during my development of a controller for the Leica cameras. Hardware wise they are definitely produced in Wetzlar though. As an owner of multiple versions of both, I'd say a resounding 'no'.

Commlite already have the electronics aspect done so only a matter of time for the optics to go in I suspect http://m.commlite.com/product/30.html

You would hope so but that statement from Sigma had a permanence to it. The Leica lens working on the Panasonic is a red flag as well. Oh well, just have to wait and see now.

It certainly doesn't lack adapter options. https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?ci=3420&fct=fct_camera-body-mount_1595|leica-l&N=4077634486 Ironically, not to mention infuriatingly, the Leica cameras that actually first featured the mount have been software locked out of the latest goodness offered by the Sigma MC21 EF and SA adapters AND the Panasonic L mount lenses.

I only really use it for work so that means it is in public places where long white lenses are so commonplace that it attracts zero attention

Only by touch. Once you've moved the box it will retain that position during subsequent presses of the physical AF button on the camera until you move it again.

I asked @Andrew Reid to check last night and unfortunately he has confirmed that the Panasonic 24-105mm L lens doesn't work on his Leica SL but his Leica 23mm L lens does work on his Panasonic S1. So, its bad news for Leica owners who wanted to use cheaper lenses but good news for Panasonic owners who want to use overpriced ones! Definitely smells like a software based lockout to me and I'm not sure where this leaves it with regard to the next generation of Leica bodies if they too lock out lenses and adapters from the other members of the alliance.

RED started a lawsuit against Atomos that was recently dropped when a licensing deal was struck. It hasn't been officially confirmed which particular RED patent lawsuit was related to but it was filed within weeks of Atomos announcing ProResRAW recording at last year's NAB so, you know.... https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/01/24/atomos-and-red-announce-a-royalty-based-license-agreement/