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In which case, I withdraw all of my carefully considered advocacy of it and declare it to be an overpriced toy for rich people to shoot videos of their cats purely to have something/anything to show on their equally overpriced 8K televisions

I was taking using lenses with OIS as a given to be honest. I actually thought I'd put that in but my old brain is leaking like a sieve these days! I also think the market I'm talking about is also less sensitive to sticking to 180 degree shutter rules when you look at their output where its clear that many of them are shooting in aperture priority without ND, not to mention the abundance of slooooow mooooooo in their B roll . Where this camera scores in that latter regard is that for many, though not all I have to stress, the slow mo B roll is very often a crutch to enable them to spread the coverage they shoot a bit thinner whereas I think re-framing, particularly the dynamic type, offers more interesting alternatives to that approach. Just to be clear and go back to what I said a few posts ago (or maybe even in the other thread !) about this camera, I think its strength lies in what I would loosely class as 'video' work rather than the even looser term 'cinematic'. Its very much in the vein of the shoot first frame later scenario that the 360 cameras have given us a glimpse of but just that this does it with fewer compromises that are inherent in those cameras in terms of image quality and fisheye lenses ! I think that's what will make it a very viable option for people who have seen that potential with the 360 cameras but want more control over what's going into the camera. Of course, I'm saying this without knowing the price so if its over £3K then all bets are off ! Realistically, it should actually be half that price considering who is behind it but when Panasonic are still getting away with marginal re-hashes like the G91 for £1K then I suspect it will closer to £3K than £2K.

As an FYI for anyone who hasn't seen the Mevo. It is let down really by having too wide a lens (and small sensor) so with a 4K capture resolution you are pushing it a bit on punch ins but it is not difficult to imagine how those issues will be mitigated with the Sharp camera

Absolutely. 1080p will be the target format for YouTube for a good while yet and with the stabilisation and re-framing possibilities, this camera has the potential to be the best camera for a sizeable number vloggers. The faux slider move function on Panasonic 4K cameras is pretty decent as is the faux multicam of the MEVO camera and both of those features will be greatly enhanced by the extra resolution of 8K. The camera also has decent audio options and of course that huge articulating screen. For someone working on their own who needs to shoot content fast with the ability to add production value in post, this camera has the potential to be an absolute powerhouse. Its interesting to see a lot of the reactions to this camera as dismissing it as a bit of novelty if not a flat out joke and I'm sure a lot of that is related to it coming from a manufacturer that is not one of the usual suspects. I think if people look beyond that, which they should because Sharp have not only been around the block a few times but are owned by Foxconn, and consider the possibilities that it offers then they might well find that this has the potential to be a far more signficant product than it is being given credit for.

Having seen how effective the stablisation is on an Insta360 One X when producing flat content from overcapture, I don't have any concerns really about this camera, or any 8K camera for that matter, not having IBIS. Unless you are delivering in 8K then it gives you plenty of latitude for post capture software stabilisation. With some of the side effects I've seen from IBIS, which are then baked in to the footage of course, and the advances in software stabilisation its arguably a better approcach anyway.

Well it wasn't adding ProRes, which is a bit of a downer. They have added an absolute ton of new features which are taking it in the direction of being an even more full blown NLE. Ironic that they are adding complexity when Resolve is going the other way. I absolutely love LumaFusion but the ProRes thing (on ingest, I don't need it for export) is beginning to bite and I'm curious to know whether the new Cut page of Resolve with a SurfacePro might now be a better route.

I actually think the battery grip is a decent option to have to keep everything integrated as it were. Adding a bit of weight to the body when you're using adapted FF lenses on it won't be unwelcome from a balance point of view either. Not quite sure how the price can be not far off double a similar Canon one for the same batteries though (which also includes nav/control buttons) let alone against the price of the 3rd party ones. Throws a bit of a spanner (or hacksaw) in the works if you've bought a cage though.

Yep, $395 was pretty much in the ballpark of where I thought it was going to be. I'm hoping that showing it this early was a bit of a kite flying exercise to gauge demand and test that price and it might come down. There is an argument for it being more compact, or a more compact version of it at least as well. I absolutely agree and I am of course all about physical hardware controllers wherever possible. In my view, I actually think that far from being a specialised tool it should actually be a mainstream one but its going to have to be a lot cheaper than that. The controller will, I would surmise, be a proprietary protocol like their other panels so 3rd party keyboard/jog wheel solutions will get close but not be able to have direct access to all of the functions, particularly the simultaneous two function controls as demonstrated?

Hang on....that keyboard is going to be $995. I suppose if you consider that the software is free then that means its probably only about $495 overpriced !

The new editing keyboard integration with that fast edit page is a bit of a game changer for fast turnaround for Resolve. Really impressive. The object removal looked very effective as well.

Watching the BM presentation video, the irony of this new simplified fast edit page is how clunky he is making it look. To his credit, he did preface it with "I'm not a demo guy" but he really should have got someone who is a demo guy to show it. Its actually a very good addition to Resolve though.

Having no menu is living the dream as far as I'm concerned !

If you're any older than me then you must have been shooting these gigs on plate film

It is already implemented in our 3C app. I was surprised when the last Metabones update activated control capability that it works as well as it does. Its better than with a lot of the native MFT lenses actually.

I would just like to wish this thread a very happy 1st birthday.

If I was going to have a combined professional photography and footwear vending operation then I would definitely call it Hot Shoe.

I just downloaded a clip from the Newsshooter site and it plays at about 1 frame a week on my battered old MacBook Air but you can have a look yourself here https://www.dropbox.com/sh/20a45vswezo0ded/AAC4Y2g8mMkJQ4Liek46o4Voa?dl=0

On the Sharp camera you mean ? Surprisingly enough it uses SDXC UHS-I U3 cards and does 30mins on a 64gig card so the running costs are quite low on the capture side. Its dealing with the transcode that will be the bugbear though Sharp are apparently going to release a proxy workflow.

Well, the Sharp 8K actually does make moving pictures ! Looks like there is a fair way to go before its ready for release but it certainly doesn't want for detail and I think there is definitely a place for this camera for more 'video' type of work. Quite a comprehensive first hands on run through from Newsshooter here https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/04/08/we-take-sharps-upcoming-8k-micro-four-thirds-camera-for-a-spin/

I'm surprised at the incredulity about requiring some degree and combination of registration/licensing to work legally or effectively as a professional photographer/videographer. I couldn't get access to events without being registered as a professional with the organiser's media control operations, I can't get that registration without being a member of a recognised professional media union or association, I can't get that registration without proof of professional publication, which I can't do without invoicing to accompany the publication and I can't invoice without registering my trade with the tax authorities. To actually then go and do these events, I can't do it without proof of public liability insurance which, again, is linked to the specific profession. I also can't insure the equipment without that specific association to its use and my status in using it. And thats before we get into things like licensing content such as music and/or stock into your productions where proof of amateur/professional status is a requirement in granting the correct license or even when we are dealing with the more sensitive assignments for public bodies that require background checks by the authorities. To be honest, there is so much proof of status required to do it professionally that this whole bootlegging of shoes thing in downtown Athens sounds like a pretty tempting gig to me

There will be a rotary encoder (or two....) involved with the focus control so very well guessed

I would definitely recommend you putting this into a new thread so it can get the consideration it deserves. If Canon announce RAW output at NAB in the next 24 hours then your question will get absolutely buried under the weight of posts about that in this one. If Canon don't announce RAW output then it will be much the same but with more venom !

I have to say I find myself anticipating more concrete information about the Sharp 8K camera far more than I thought I might. Sometimes its the companies without the long term roadmap that can offer the quickest shortcut.

Dr. Who fans will be all over that !

Found a definite release date of April 19th for Japan so I doubt it'll be anywhere earlier than that anywhere else. Incidentally, Sigma seem very keen to get their SA users into it as that version works out at about £60! Suggests a L mount SD Quattro can't be far off.