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Some white wall based comparison testing with the 18-35mm on the LensRegain, the Metabones 0.71x and a dumb adapter on the Pocket4K for you. Including downloadable files to peep with

This one is a cine version that looks to be in decent condition and with some haggling I'm hoping to get it for £200ish. Which is, what, $68 at the current exchange rates?

Whereas I've been hunting for a cheap copy of their 135mm and think I might have found one. There will be a scant amount of resisting going on.

Yep, its down to what the OP wants to do with it and how often so I'm only throwing it up as the compromise as it seemed to me like the requirement was for an FS5 form factor and features with a more cinematic look (like we can ever define that on here ) and RAW hence the Odyssey. Which would be the Ursa Mini Pro but then, as you say, everything else gets bigger around it. The obvious answer is to buy both but I'm very liberal with other people's money.

Just playing devil's advocate but maybe the compromise play is to get an Ursa Mini Pro to get a bit of both worlds ?

Uncle Acker you mean? Yeah, he said its fine. As long as you get the PRS to agree as well https://www.prsformusic.com/licences/using-production-music/films-and-trailers

If you are going to be doing a lot of this and just want something you can set up and leave then I'd have a look at the Samson G-Track Pro USB condenser microphone. Nowhere near as flexible as doing it using separate components but its far easier to deploy and actually performs very well. Not only does it keep within 3 figures price wise it actually only just creeps into 3 figures !

Here's a fun fact that connects Stranger On The Shore and lens tests... Gene Cernan included the Acker Bilk version of it on a cassette tape that he took to listen to on a work trip in 1969. When he went on a similar work trip three years later he left his camera at his destination when he returned home because he wanted to see what effect solar cosmic radiation would have on the lens but he expressed regrets about it later because in the end no co-workers ever went back to pick it up for him. Its a pity really as it was quite a decent lens, although I'm sure we could find a Samyang that would match its performance quite closely even without the radiation damage.

The pre-orders for their other products like the monitors etc is what concerns me really as, yes, it would only have been an optimist who pre-ordered the 8K

The cheap K&F one to see if its any better than the cheap Fotodiox one ! https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07D9BSKN4

I have the 35mm f2 and 50mm f1.1 in M mount. The M to MFT adapter I've got doesn't play particularly nice (infinity focus issues) but I've ordered a different one so I'll let you know with regard to the Pocket 4K next week.

The only lenses that I haven't put on it as yet are the motley collection of Berlin flea market M42 lenses that I've acquired over the past few years and a Mamiya 645 Medium Format 35mm lens. But it is only just before 1:30 in the afternoon here so you never know.

Good to hear. I've spent a fair amount of time in Utrecht over the years and I've always been very fond of the place. Sorry for the alarming stalker thing ! I remembered from the LS300 forum on DVInfo.net

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Completely off topic but I seem to remember you are based in Utrecht. Hope you and yours are unaffected mate.

I'm not sure how much pie Cinemartin were consuming to be honest. Space cakes perhaps but not pie.

Don't drag me into it I'm reading @Shirozina's post "I do know about Yashica and it’s (inferior) relation Ziess" as saying Zeiss is the inferior relation to the Yashica by the way or have I misunderstood ?

FCPX for video. Aperture and Lightroom for stills. (The former for work when its all jpegs). I'm going to download the trial of the Chromatic plugin for FCPX this week. For my needs (which are pretty basic), I'd sooner use ProRes and stay inside FCPX than have that nth degree tweak ability of RAW and Chromatic seems to me to be a good bridging device to a more pseudo-Resolve depth for correction with tracking power windows etc.

I haven't got a GH5 or a 0.67XL so I can't give you a definitive answer. I have got a GX85 and a 0.71x though so I went outside to do a quick comparison with some white walls for you. Top is the 10-18mm @10mm and the bottom is the Sigma 18-35mm @18mm As you an see, there is some vignetting on the Canon and I just adjust for this by zooming in a fraction as I'll still get the extra FOV, the light gathering and the sharpening but it can be put on a dumb adapter as well to avoid any vignetting. And the vignetting that is there is more than the Sigma. Hopefully you can extrapolate from that for your own system based on how you know the Sigma performs with your 0.67XL Bottom line is if the Sigma vignettes on it then the Canon will too and a little bit more. Hope that helps.

The diminishing returns are certainly particularly diminished when it comes to the Samyangs versus lenses many times their price. I hadn't really considered the 135mm but I will certainly pick up a cheap used one when I next come across one. Just push sliders in random directions until you like the look of it ! Many, many moons ago when I was a young pup recording engineer there was a set of cards made by Brian Eno called 'Oblique Strategies". The idea was that if you reached a creative block in the studio you pulled out a card at random that had a phrase written on it that would stimulate you to take a different approach. So there were ones like "Don' be afraid of things because they're easy to do", "Cut a vital connection" or "Give way to your worst impulse". The one that always stuck out because it was generally the most effective though was "User fewer notes". If Eno did these cards for colour correction he'd definitely have one that said "Use fewer nodes"

Another cheap and cheerful second hand MFT lens, this time the Olympus 45mm f1.8 on the Blackmagic Pocket 4K This grab is from an HD ProRes LT recording as I was running out of card space when I was out today !

Right, its charts and bottles time again ! Haven't got a PL adapter for anything full frame at the moment so these are from RAW stills from the Blackmagic Pocket 4K. Same as the other test, so maximum aperture in the left frame and again at f5.6 in the right frame. Bit of a caveat as the RPP Prime is in T stops so I had to get it in the ballpark and then adjust exposure to match. Also the framing wasn't matched as its a different focal length but also due to having to mount the PL on rails but, hey, its a free test so I reserve the right to be a bit sloppy So, across the top we have the Samyang 24mm f1.4 and across the bottom the RPP Prime 25mm t1.8 Charts first. Then the same story with the bottles, with the focus set on the Cointreau bottle. CONCLUSION ? Less contrast on the RPP makes it look a bit smoother but we again we are quite a fair way from night and day differences. The Samyang though.....bargain.

Its way beyond mine most of the time too

Here are the screenshots of it in action today in a city centre. First scan shows everyone's Fitbits etc as well as the camera. You now click on Search List and enter the filter term you want (I chose "Camera") And then it filters all of the other devices out. You could choose "4K" or whatever but I decided against a default in case people have renamed their cameras.

Looks like they missed off the "t" in bankruptcy in their initial link. I suspect that they were looking to get some positivity from letting a couple of outlets see it but its backfired as it obviously wasn't ready but financially it was probably a bit of a last roll of the dice so they had to roll it too soon. If they had got a glowing review from Bloom having it then it might have given them the breathing space and impetus for a reasonably quick Kickstarter process. I'm quite sad about it to be honest because it takes a lot of graft to try and get a product to market and there is a big difference in this case in my view than something like the Meyer Optik Görlitz situation where there was clearly some chicanery going on from the get go. In this case, I think the spirit was willing but the finance was weak. Conceptually what they were attempting to do was a sound one and would have been of benefit but you need deeper pockets to fund that even when you are using off the shelf parts. I just hope they weren't using pre-order deposits/full payments from their other products to fund it. Though they wouldn't be the first company to have done that.