BTM_Pix

As I say, my point wasn't really about the actual failure (as its the EBU's own criteria so it could have failed on not being lined with pink fur if that's what they so choose to have as a specifcation) but about the response to Alan Robert's testing against that criteria. Moreover, why Panasonic didn't challenge it if it was so flawed, as having EBU approval would at thw very least be good for PR purposes for them. As it was for Canon with the XC10. https://www.canon.co.uk/about_us/press_centre/press_releases/consumer_news/digital_cinema/xc10_ebu.aspx

Yes but I've done a "virtual cancellation" of sorts. I've swapped reservations with a mate of mine with the proviso that I can have it for a few weeks first for obvious reasons and then he will take it. Gives me enough time to see how things shake out until I take up his pre-order (he is waaaayy down the list) as I've got no real need for it until next March/April time anyway.

What is this telling us then? That he posted it in the thread thats dedicated to it ?

I've got one of these on order The Cfast card and the SSD can be read and written to simultaneously so its a good solution for archiving and cheap at about £15. I'm going to use this as part of a DIY portable standalone field copy device that I mentioned a while ago. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0777958WY/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_95LOBbR957CN5

Years ago, a friend of my brother borrowed a Hasselblad 500cm from his Uncle and decided he wanted to go and shoot a fire engine as it emerged on from the station on a call. He waited patiently at the end of the forecourt until there was a call and framed the engine as it was emerging with all lights blazing, fired a frame off and thought he could get another one off but thought better of it as the engine was bearing down on him so he quickly took evasive action and stepped to the side. Not being familiar with the 500cm he of course neglected to take into account the reversed image in the waist level finder and stepped the wrong way. He got away with a broken leg but was persona non grata at his Uncle's house for a long time as the camera had fared less well.

Well, sort of. I was clearing out some stuff and camera across a flexible mirror with a cutout for a tripod screw. I used to use it a long time ago for positioning cameras on short floor tripods behind goals etc to keep my knees dry and my back in one piece before live view to phones became a thing. Because its such a flexible arm I thought it might be worth having a go of re-utilising it to give a low tech solution for cameras that don't have a forward facing screen and its actually not bad at all. As you can see, you connect it to the camera via a screw into the tripod socket or between the screw of an actual tripod and the camera as I've done here. You then position the mirror at an angle up and behind the camera and it gives you a view of the screen (albeit reversed ) over it. Its hard to convey in a picture but it is actually really effective and more than good enough for anyone wanting to do vlogging on a camera without a forward facing screen. Even cameras with rigid non-moveable screens like this LX100 and the Original BMPCC work fine with it. Anyway, as the forum is, quite understandably, being dominated by discussions of new cameras with ever increasing price tags I thought it might be nice to show that for a few quid we can still stick it to the man and get round their screen restrictions Well, I say a few quid but there is one drawback to this particular low-fi solution and that is that at this point you are probably expecting an eBay or amazon link to buy one but, alas, like all good drawer finds I have absolutely no recollection whatsoever of where I got it as a single item (though I know I did and it was less than £5). However, it is available as part of a Polaroid Selfie Stick bundle for £10 so still a cheap solution if you need it. http://amzn.eu/d/3QeMCA5

I know enough to know that I personally don't know enough to pick apart Alan's work to any meaningful degree I'm surprised that Panasonic haven't pushed for a change though if on the basis of Alan's testing they are being excluded from what would be a bit of a coup for them to have full EBU approval for the GH5s? Ditto the EBU themselves if they have erroneously excluded a camera that would be a viable budget option for its members who, we must remember, are all state funded public broadcasters and therefore accountable for spending public money. I'm playing devil's advocate here and I must stress I have no bias towards Alan Roberts or even a dog in the fight when it comes to that particular camera but I'm surprised that with a company like Panasonic on one side and an organisation like the EBU on the other that there would've been a more formal review and, if necessary, an amendment to the report. Certainly something more formal than comments going back and forth on an internet page that just seemed to peter out. Does anyone know what became of the guy in that thread that said he was going to contact the EBU about it?

I remember the row about the GH5s but it just petered out as I recall and he did respond to some of it in the comments. https://www.newsshooter.com/2018/04/27/panasonic-gh5s-ebu-assessment/ Did Panasonic ever rebut it or the EBU modify the assessment ?

BM have a DC cable pack for it for $55 https://forum.blackmagicdesign.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78804

I used to know Alan Roberts about 15 years ago and he is far from being a pencil pushing bureaucrat to be fair. http://www.gtc.org.uk/the-gtc-awards/gtc-awards/gtc-awards-archive/gtc-award-winners-2009.aspx I haven't seen him in the intervening years but he came up with an interesting approach to comparing the accuracy of LED lights fairly recently. https://www.newsshooter.com/2015/02/27/bve-2015-how-accurate-are-your-led-lights-ex-bbc-expert-alan-roberts-has-the-surprising-answers/

Yes you can use them as an incident light meter as well as to set WB.

To be fair, if you found yourself wanting to make electronic music in the 1700's then no amount of Moogs and Oberheims would take your mind off having no way to actually plug them in It is interesting that you make a comparison to electronic music though as those artists at its forefront in the period between the mid 70s and 80s by and large produced their better work during that time rather than latterly when the tools at their disposal became infinitely more powerful. The limitations were simultaneously something they had to work around (which often breeds creativity) but also prevented them from having too many choices which can lead to being filled with crippling doubt and/or ending up disappearing up their own arse. So, for me, the link between creativity and the tools is not always the obvious way round.

The Ninja V is becoming more relevant with every new camera announcement and no doubt will become even more so with further announcements at Photokina. They've got the form factor down, the price down and their timing couldn't be any better with these new cameras all having 10 bit 4:2:2 outputs. The Ninja V addresses the challenges these new cameras may have in terms of monitoring, codecs, storage and even screen orientation and also offers the same thing for the other cameras that you already own. The add on modules for it make it even more powerful (the NDI one is a bit niche for many here but its very exciting for those who need it ) and I would guess that somewhere down the line we will see an SDI input module as well. It would be even better if we didn't have to pay the same in pounds as it is in dollars of course but even with that premium its a really cost effective way to massively upgrade every camera you have that has an HDMI output

Sounds like what Andy Murray would have a game of in Cardiff.

With the cameras released, announced and about to be announced in the past few weeks, I'm thinking that the Atomos Ninja V might end up being a very decisive product for many people. And a potentially dangerous one for BM.

Even leaving aside the fact that no one has used the camera to form any informed opinion, it will always be the case that the only opinion that matters is that of Netflix. If you find yourself in the position of being commissioned by Netflix to do one of their Netflix Originals then that is the only time that list will matter. At which point it will be the least of your concerns. Until then, concentrate on getting yourself into that position in the first place.

The default on the scale mapping for MFT lenses on the JVC LS300 is just over 80% but that is only on an APS-C sensor. With some of the MFT lenses you can set the scale to over 90% and in some cases 100% but the performance gets a bit sketchy on the edges to say the least. So the short answer is no and that existing MFT users will have to buy new lenses. How many of those new lenses will exist at launch time remains to be seen but might possibly depend on who, if anyone, they might have as a partner. If this new camera does turn out to have the Leica SL mount then it could be bad news if all you have to choose from is the eye wateringly expensive Leica SL lenses. Conversely, if it shares the same mount and Panasonic have made new more affordable lenses for it then that would be a huge win for Leica SL owners to have that option. There has long been rumours of a full frame version of the Leica CL (which has the same mount as the SL) so that might add weight to the theory that Panasonic will use the mount as it too will need more affordable lenses. Leica are currently doing a very generous trade in offer against the SL which is usually the prelude to stock shifting ahead of a new model so, again, there is another bit of weight to the theory as the Leica badged version of Panasonic products usually trail behind by 3-6 months. So, I can see it would make sense for both sides for it to use the SL mount but I can also see arguments against it regarding Leica's brand status etc so you never know.

The NDI module is particularly interesting. This gives the potential for Atomos to develop it to be used as a really compact multi input live switcher and recorder as per the Odyssey 7q but from unlimited camera inputs on a network. If they go that way it also throws up the possibility of them creating a standalone screenless NDI input box with recorder like the Ninja Star, which is well due a re-spin with a 4K capability. The Ninja V was already looking like a great product but these modules both kick it up another notch.

I drowned a few months ago.

We had quite a long thread about this a while ago and the general consensus was that for most of us the list was of about as much immediate concern as a list of recommended footwear that you should put on for a meeting with the Loch Ness Monster would be. The list is for Netflix's own content that they commission for Netflix Originals rather than for external content that they buy in so you can make it on whatever you want within reason and if it's good enough then they will buy it. Especially if it's a documentary about Nessie's footwear preferences.

If you are setting it in the modern day, make sure that the child does an unboxing video of the balloon. And set it in Hawaii. With the balloon seller being played by Tony Northrup.

. To be fair, its only parts of the past 10 pages or so that have been rough going, the previous 190 odd were mainly positive. Or as Alan Partridge would have put it

Like this one with @webrunner5 ** reacting to @Andrew Reid suggesting he might shut the forum ? ** You know I mean that affectionately @webrunner5

Why don't they just make a great camera and let it stand or fall on its merits.

The extendible phone mounts would work as well and give you a movable ball mount on the hotshoe. They also have tripod mounts so you can attach them to a mounting point on a cage etc. They are all over Amazon and eBay for a few quid.