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Just walk me through exactly what you want to do with it

I have to say I'm bewildered why they've released this footage. The camera is very interesting but let's be honest they lost a lot of buzz when the Pocket 4K was announced. The only way to get that back was to put images out there that made everyone who'd pre-ordered or was going to pre-order the Pocket 4K to think "Mmm....hang on...we might have been a bit hasty here". Surely no one is anywhere near thinking that based on this? Manufacturers have a difficult enough time as it is with people making their products look bad by shooting garbage with them without joining in with it themselves. You can go too far the other way and make a glossy promo film of a £1500 camera with an unrealistic hidden supporting cast of gear and crew so it's fine to show something that is more realistically obtainable. But it still has to be aspirational surely? If they don't look like they care then why should we? This is less to do with what the camera is capable of but what the company itself is capable of. Showing such half baked and half arsed footage is not going to convince anyone that the company is in it for the long haul with this product. The first impression they made with their other interchangeable lens camera wasn't entirely positive and the massive price drop on it was testament to that so they were already playing catch up in terms of perception. As soon as the Pocket 4K was announced they must surely have known they'd really be up against it to claw back ground from an established brand coming in with something that drastically undercut it like that. This just doesn't inspire any confidence in them whatsoever that they can build any sort of momentum to counter the Pocket 4K. I'm the last person who wants to be a sheep and just buy what everybody else does and I like to see the underdog have a go so I'm really disappointed that this is what they've chosen to release. It's easy to say that we shouldn't write it off based on this footage but this close to the release of the other camera it would have been better to release no footage than release this. Better to keep quiet and have people suspect the footage from your new camera may not be all that than to open a YouTube channel and confirm it, as Mark Twain would've put it

It is of the ISOs but only whatever is on what they call the LR input, be that one of their bolt on mics or the EXH-6. None of the 4 XLR Mic inputs can have a safety track. Electret condensors into the EXH-6 would of course let you have a safety track for external mics too. Fiddly comes to mind.

The H6 has a safety track function but it's only for whatever is on the L/R input so that would be one of their plug on mics or whatever is on the EXH-6. So, no safety track for phantom powered external mics basically

They provide breakout cables with it that go from the 1/4" jacks to female XLRs with it so you can plug microphones in. I'm not sure if this is the Marantz one that @Grimor has. If it is he can sell you a hand made remote for it!

The 701D was purely there to indicate the next 6 track recorder up in price to the H6 though. There was never any recommendation attached to it and certainly not against the F4. Again, the USB interface only having to be one channel was something that was only specified AFTER my post though so at the time the requirement was 6 track recorder with USB interface . Anyway......having said that F4 being able to be used as a USB interface..you and your pesky facts have got me there Complete oversight on my part which changes everything and, Yes, if the budget is there, there is no contest. And by the way, I may have a sub £10 solution for your auto switching black box if you don't mind a bit of soldering

At first I thought the one on the bottom was a Gnarbox (which would make sense for mobile journalism) but on closer zooming I think it's a light in a rugged housing (possibly even repurposed from diving?) as it looks to have a pushbutton on the left and a rotary fader on the right. The thing on the top is possibly an action camera or a battery for the light. Or the whole thing could well be one of those bird feeder cameras

To be fair mate, the 701D and the PMD-706 where there purely as an indicator of the 6 track field recorders immediately above and below the H6 as it was the 6 track aspect that was one of the key features that @Anaconda_ was interested in. This ruled out the 70D with it only being 4 track. The 701D is marginally cheaper in the UK than the F4 (by about £50 but still ) so it is the next one up in price. They were only used in that context though rather than a recommendation as neither of them has the other key function that he wanted which was to have it do double duty as a USB interface. Which, of course, ruled out the F4 as well anyway. So in the context of what he asked for which is a 6 track recorder that also could be used as a USB interface, it's the only one of the bunch that could do that irrespective of price. Having said that... @Anaconda_ then subsequently said he only needed one channel of USB interface so in that context, the F4 and a £30 Behringer Uphoria interface would be a better all round solution to get the required functiionality with a clearly better field recorder . It's still double the price though but that extra £250 will undoubtedly be a bargain spread over the usage period. Hope that clarifies what I meant about the context of referencing those other recorders.

It works on anything that their own app does so ues it should be fine

I found some interesting results taking the cinelike V as a starting point myself as well. If you have an Android phone or tablet around, have a go with my tweaker app as you can see the interaction in real time. If you load your LUT onto the external monitor if you have an Atomos then it's even more useful to see the interaction with that. There is another version of it further up that thread that automates to produce a range of stills which effectively bracket all the permutations you're interested in or makes them as one long clip.

It can be done with any browser so the PC will be fine. The very first time you do it, it will probably reject the connect as its registering a new connection but second time round it will be fine. If it fails, go back to the original html file at the beginning of the thread just in case an error crept in with that last one. Im in transit so can't check it but I doubt it's not working.

And the large depth of field from the small sensor is an absolute boon when you need to keep the background magic trick in focus.

Reluctantly, yes. I should probably qualify that a bit and say the 20/20 stuff was OK but shooting the Test matches is not exactly a thrill a minute. For five days.

It was probably needed to mask the sound of disappointment seeping out of the rapidly deflating balloon of expectation.

If I was a consumer walking into a shop, I'd think the "VI" part of the RX100 VI name meant it was some sort of VR variation. They'll have to stop after the mark 8 anyway because I think Canon probably still have a trademark on IX What are any of them scared of? Its like they think putting a mic socket on them will open up a hole in the space time continuum. For the life of me I don't know why they don't have an intelligent hotshoe add-on even for just a 3.5mm one on all these compacts for people who want the option. Its a technology that all of them have used on different models in the past (including this actual RX100 range !!) and still do on ones that fit their somewhat warped ideas of what people should actually be allowed to have access to. It wouldn't go against the ethos of it being a compact cameras as a 3.5mm input could easily be housed in something the form factor of this flash trigger The mad thing is that they could make a bastard fortune off them as well. If Panasonic and Sony they had something like that for the LX100, GX80, LX10, RX100 etc for even £100 they'd have people biting their hands off for them. Another bewildering thing about this situation is that they are all crying into their sake about people using their phones instead of compact cameras while conveniently turning a blind eye to the fact that I can have 2 channel XLR input with phantom power on my phone for £100 if I want to and they can't even allow people on an £1100 camera to have one measly 3.5mm mic input. As I mentioned in the thread about people using smartphones for professional broadcasting, the audio is the governing factor. Its all well and good the two people from Sony in the video above smugly saying anyone who shoots with a smartphone should be shot (I can't work out whether he said that as a terrible pun or not) but the lav mics they are both wearing tell me they wouldn't have been able to shoot it with the RX100 VI.....

Imagine how thrilled they'll be that your recorder has a metronome and guitar tuner built in Yes, the monitor mixer it has onboard will let you do that but just be aware that the line out and the headphone both source it so if you wanted to use the Solo function whilst recording to PFL a microphone then the outgoing feed to the camera would be impacted.

"Jack" copies his posts from other forums and then just pastes his spam link to the bottom. So, from PhotoBoothTalk.com we get this Which ends up on here as this : I thought at first it was a human bot as in some poor soul in an underground shed getting paid fourpence an hour to do this manually but the lack of line breaks makes me think it is actually automated (badly). At least "Jack" has the good grace to let us know he's an automaton repeating parrot fashion things he's lifted from other places and passing them off as his own thoughts on here though

There are other options in terms of the field recorder aspect at that price (like the Marantz PMD-706) and above (Tascam DR701D) that will give you the 6 tracks but the USB audio interface is the unique part of the Zoom. One criticism I've seen come up about it a few times as an interface though versus a normal USB one is that as the XLRs aren't all on one side it can be a bit of a spiders legs job so that might be something to consider. With regard to the file structure, its like this, so each project has a folder and within it the separate files for the recording are denoted LR for stereo recording of the L/R input, Tr1 would be a mono track of Input 1, Tr34 would be a stereo recording of Input 3 and 4 etc..: For what your needs are as both a USB interface and a field recorder as a single unit, I can't think of a better solution and if there is one it is certainly not that price. Having a real monitor mixer on board would be something I could see you benefiting from as you could use it to provide a separate monitor mix to the musicians when you're using it like that or for providing a mixed version out to a camera when filming for fast turnaround whilst still having the benefit of the individually recorded tracks as a safety. As for the actually quality of the mic-pres, there are a ton of videos on YouTube of it being used in various levels of competency with a ton of different mics of different quality so I guess you can take them as a spectrum of what it can do but you'll really need to plug your own mics in and compare it with what you know they can do with your current setup to make that call.

Maybe not for narrative film making but I see a lot of smartphones being used professionally by journalists in my work. I remember being quite shocked when I first started seeing them being used a few years ago for reporter pieces to camera outside stadiums by "real" broadcast companies but its so commonplace now it doesn't even register. I'm not talking just self shot pieces here either - though that happens as well - but a regular setup of a cameraman and a reporter, its just that the camera on the tripod is a smartphone instead of an ENG camera. Typically, they'll be on a rig like this one What has really pushed it forward over recent years is the availability of good audio options and its even becoming more commonplace at press conferences I've been doing to see smartphones being connected directly to the audio split box to take the feed from the console. So standards don't have to drop just because the form factor and price of the gear you're using have. Everything about them is becoming more sophisticated in terms of hardware and software (apps like LumaFusion are serious editing tools now and the Teradek Live:AIR products let you do multi cam broadcasts) and of course where they really win out is not just in the form factor but also in how fast they can get to air from anywhere. So I can definitely say they have reached a point where you can do professional video work with them but the transition to "proper" film making (whatever that even means today) is always going to be hampered by the lens on the front of it. If RED actually get it together in terms of a viable bolt on camera for the HYDROGEN then we might over time see it gain the same traction. I'm of a generation that sees a smartphone as a device whereas the people who will be making the films I watch in my retirement home see it as an extension of themselves. It is that ubiquity that will drive the change because to them, they do everything else on it so why wouldn't you make "real" films on it? And to be honest, I have to say that dealing with a fixed device that limits your choices also limits the rabbit holes you can fall down so it can actually improve creativity and productivity.

Oh. I think this clip of it might actually be a metaphor.

I have the mark V and I use it primarily as a travel camera. For me, I use a lot of it indoor or in lower light so it's the reverse for me. Even when it's in good light I prefer the option of the wider aperture if I need it hence why I have a variable ND permanently on it totally defeating the object of it being a compact camera But, as I said, I do see that other people would prefer the longer reach and I have to get out of the mindset of thinking a mark VI would be an "upgrade" over a mark V because that's not how it works with the RX100 and it's just a different set of compromises in the same body. I'll stick with the current set of compromises the mark V gives me but I'm sure the mark VI ticks the boxes of other people. As I say, in the camcorder format (where it has some additional features and where I would use it for a completely different purpose) I think it's a pretty compelling package.

Its certainly got a ton going for it over the Panasonic but its well over twice the price so by putting that lens on it they've put themselves in that sort of comparison area with consumers. Funnily enough, I quite fancy this in the camcorder format of the AX700 where you are getting the variable ND and the mic input and the better ergonomics but it just seems like a bad compromise in the RX100 format for me. I have the RX100 V and I bemoan the lack of a mic input and more than one ND setting far more than not having enough reach on the lens but I need to stop thinking about the different RX100 versions as "upgrades" as their naming and pricing suggests because they all co-exist together for different uses I suppose and the RX100 VI is for people who do need that.

I doubt they ever will, its how they roll. At least the fiddliness is understandable when they're cramming features into a small unit like the RX100s. I don't know what their excuse is for their bigger cameras which are equally clunky. The Mark V was pushed quite hard by the much cheaper Panasonic LX10/15 (which has a faster lens). I thought the Mark VI would put some daylight between them but this lens choice actually drags it the other way towards the even cheaper Panasonic TZ100. Both of those cheap Panasonic's can have Cinelike-D on them as well now of course If I was a normal punter in a shop looking at this Mark VI against the TZ100 I'd be wondering where the price difference was. There is more to this camera when you dig into it of course than the Panasonic's offer but on a straight side by side in a shop it would be a tough sell.

They have a stereo mic for cameras that use the Multi Interface Shoe and also a dual XLR interface that does too. So you can use these on lot of their cameras to add decent audio but they stopped including the Multi Interface Shoe from the Mark III version of the RX100 onwards. To be fair, it is about twice the size of the camera though, so I suppose they envisage it being more appropriate to the RX10. Would've been nice to have the option though.

From the spec it appears to be the compact camera version of their AX700 camcorder. That new hybrid AF system its got is no slouch