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I remember a story many years ago when home studio recording first started to take a hold and Tom Robinson (ask your Dad, kids) was talking about why he'd got a new fangled (at the time) Tascam Portastudio to record his demos on. His reply has always stuck with me because he said that when a band reaches a certain level of success the first thing they do is get flight cases for their gear and cables that you could tie the QE2 to the quayside with. This all then has to go into storage. So when he felt like writing a song, he'd have to call a roadie, call a van hire place, get the roadie to go to the storage place to pick up the gear, book a rehearsal room (because the flight cases made it impractical to have in the house), drive to the rehearsal room, wait for the gear to be unpacked and plugged in and then he could start to jam and record ideas. At which point he'd forgotten what it was he wanted to do and had lost the energy to do it anyway. With the portastudio, he could just switch it on and get on with it. I see a lot of parallels here too. The only thing thats inspired me to pull the RED Epic out of its case since I got it back was to do the side by side to tune the GX80 profile. It felt like having to go to the corner shop in a Sherman tank. In my real day job I have to take the same 'get the big clunky stuff out' approach because there is an expectation to deliver a set standard both in terms of image quality but pretty much in terms of content too. Coverage is what its all about to be honest. And the demands of that type of efficiency directs you to a certain type of kit. All of which means I'm about as creative as the guy sitting next to me who has also got exactly the same sort of kit (with a 50/50 shot on the brand). Which means to say, not very creative. Or certainly not a massive differential in creativity. We're looking at the same scene and covering it with the same kit so inevitable we're going to be much of a muchness creatively. But the creativity can sometimes be forced upon you (by equipment failure usually!) so you have to do something with what you've got and that triggers the resourcefulness response that is so often at the root of creativity. Being in a situation of "I can't make what I want" often makes you find better ways to make what you actually need. After wrestling with the Epic and then putting the same lens on the GX80 and shooting the same thing, I was left (with a bit of twiddling) with these two test charts. So, could I shoot this same scene with a camera that cost less than the media of the other one? Yes. Could the same be said the other way round about what I could shoot with the little camera? Yes but not without calling the roadie and hiring the van and getting the flight cases and, well you get the point.

You're going to have to trust me over this enable thing The enable is only to tell the app what to display to the user. There is no enable command sent back to the camera. It is only sent one way and that from the camera to the app. I wasn't suggesting you weren't following the steps, I was saying that if you were and it didn't work then it was because the camera was not capable of doing it rather than anything to do with the enable status. If you've enabled Auto ISO - and again only if your camera is actually capable of doing it - you should see the ISO change on your display when you do a half press of the shutter. If you take a series of photographs pointing at different light sources with Auto ISO on then you should see on playback that it was using different ISO values for each shot. If you put the camera in aperture priority mode in movie mode with Auto ISO on and take a few clips of differing light sources you should again see on playback that it is displaying that it is recording them at different ISOs. However, if we are talking at cross purposes over Auto ISO in manual mode (and I suspect we might be) and you are wanting to do it while the camera is recording video then it won't do it as it (and the GX80 for that matter) do not support Auto ISO in manual mode in video and you have to use shutter or aperture priority. So we've extended the life line of your GX80 without you having to cross Panasonic's palm with silver is the symbolism here then

You've done it now mentioning the B word haven't you? I've only just finished reading that C200 thread

The enable purely tells the app what to display to the user, it doesn't determine what the camera is capable of doing but just what the app enables the user to tell it to do. By and large, this does correspond with the camera's capabilities but not always. So, this isn't the reason why you can't get Cinelike D to work. If you followed the instructions that I mentioned in my reply earlier regarding selecting another profile etc and you don't see a blank when you do the deploy for Cinelike D then the camera unfortunately isn't capable of doing it. With regard to auto iso, again the enable/disable is purely to do with what the app displays to the user. However, if you connect to the camera and send this http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=iso&value=auto Then if the camera is capable of the function then this command will enable it.

The Handshake probably isn't necessary as the older cameras didn't have the encrypted connection so the err non connect is expected and OK so don't worry about that. As long as you get an OK on Connect and the camera says under remote control then its working. To confirm that, change the colour profile to black and white or vivid or something else and hit Restore and it should change to the Standard profile. With regard to Cinelike D bear in mind that it won't show the colour profile so if there is a blank where the colour profile name would be on the screen then its worked. If not, then you'll still be able to benefit from the hardware controller with your camera so stick around Thank you. Make sure you stick around and join the community testing effort for the hardware controller

A bit of a mixed bag then to say the least. I wonder if there is any additional jiggery pokery going on when its on an 80D. Whats piqued my interest here though is the PZ-E1 and the contacts part. I suspect that there some of those pins are for comms though as it is drivable from their smart phone app so the camera has to tell the lens to tell the PZ-E1 to move the zoom position but its how it operates (or not) standalone that intrigues me. I know its battery powered but does it turn the gear without being attached to the lens? If it does, it strikes me as there may be some mileage in a modification for it to work with other lenses. It has the right form factor, ergonomics and price to be an interesting add on for a lot more people than just users of one specific lens I think.

Same command but I've got a suspicion it does something with master pedestal level at the same time, which we don't have access to. Its just a guess but it looks like the same effect as if you altered that level. And altered it badly! I need to have hold of a GH4 but ideally an HVX200 as that has its own app that can alter the master pedestal level so I could at least fish the command.

Mmmmm....yes and no. It takes the command and protects highlights for sure. But it does this by shifting everything a bit to the left of Karl Marx. I need to look at it again to see if its salvageable with the prodding device but haven't got round to it yet. Yes but if it is shit then at least it can now be shit but with a much flatter profile

I was only able to look at the rear panel to check it worked. I figured that putting a memory card in it and recording some footage would've been a bit of an abuse of their (unwitting) hospitality

For anyone looking for a cheap 4K travel camera with a 30x zoom (!) that can have cinelike d then I can confirm that it can indeed be done for the Panasonic TZ80 And if you are travelling through Stansted airport then if you go to the Dixons tax free shop then ask to buy the demo one as I've just been there and left it already enabled on C3 for you

You might want to look at these other threads about work I'm doing on colour profiles. Main description of it is first And then some information about testing outcomes from it The controller will allow multiple versions of these custom created sets to be sent to the camera.

They both have both cinelike profiles so its just hue and hardware controller functions that they benefit from.

This particular thread started as cinelike d for the GX80 as per the title so, yes, obviously there is no benefit to G80 owners in that regard. The longer term benefits to the overall project for G80 owners will be found in the hardware controller to enable the camera functionality to be operated wirelessly from a physical unit rather than menu diving. The different file formats are what other contributors have put up to enable testing to see if they work so you shouldnt have any expectation of those and I think that is documented in the responses by those who have tested it. With regard to ISO, I didn't do the one with multiple variants and don't have a G80 but I suspect if you put it into an auto mode where the camera chooses its own ISO then this will take care of it. If it doesnt, then put this into a browser while connected to the camera and it will revert to 6400 and take it from there. http://192.168.54.1/cam.cgi?mode=setsetting&type=iso&value=6400 Hope that helps The hardware controller, incidentally, enables the higher ISOs to be used in video mode if like the GX80 it is clamped at 6400. The Hue command should also work if its not an already editable parameter in the G80. There is some usage guidance further up the thread for operating it from a browser but again its something that will be more readily and usefully controlled from the hardware controller. I don't have one but maybe someone who does could chime in if they've tested it. The G6 was a fail so I'm not sure where the GX7 sits in the chronology relative to that so wouldn't like to guess.

Clearly, attaching this would be the foolproof automated solution to this issue. If there is enough sunlight to heat the camera then it will also be enough to cool it

Seems an interesting approach.

This is for the A6500 but its applicable for all cameras that use Play Memories so will work on RX10/RX100 Ahhhhhh....great point.

Metabones have recently(-ish) upgraded the firmware. Says it has 'detailed EXIF' so that suggests if you take a still it should show you in the EXIF what the aperture was. http://www.metabones.com/article/of/Firmware_Adds_Cinema_EOS_Lens_and_GH5

There seems to be a viable hack for all Sony cameras that support the Sony Play Memories system to enable unlimited record time. Sounds like it should come with a free fire extinguisher.

There is something in the overly reduced contrast levels and noise interaction. I'm definitely going to create an automated test routine to produce an evaluation video file with different permutations. The snag is that at 2 seconds per permutation, even eliminating unreasonable combinations, it will still clock in around the 3 hour mark. We might need to watch it in shifts. Although we could probably have a decent crack at the Tate Modern putting it on as an exhibit.

On a serious note though, considering this is a consumer camera and all, how does this overheating not utterly trash Sony with the wider public if its so endemic? Even in their own domestic market it must be a massive problem surely? I haven't been to Tokyo or Osaka for a few years but whenever I was working there in the summer it wasn't exactly tepid so I don't get how consumers would just put up with it to be honest. For enthusiasts, they will accept stuff like this because they are getting a bargain in relative terms so will work around it. But for a consumer this is an absolutely top end camera that they'd surely expect to be able to use without a second thought? I can't imagine consumers are shy about just putting it in record and leaving it running while their little angel or pet performs their party piece. And running. And running. Unless they all had Samsung smartphones and think 'no,no,I think you'll find the RX100 runs a little cool'. Strange.

Bugger. Stick around though as the other stuff for hardware control of focus and so on will work for it so that might be of some benefit.

The camera will be cooled with all the water balloon popping action for at least the first month. I presume external USB battery pack will mitigate the heat issue a little? If it doesn't then I'm going to have to buy it a little fan as this is the weather forecast on my local TV most days

If anyone is looking to get one then Jessops include a voucher for 500 free 7x5 prints and a 20x16 canvas if you buy an A7Sii from them. That's the sort of deal that you'd never get if you bought an Alexa. Possibly the most Alan Partridge special offer since he was pushing Rawlinson's doing slightly damaged chocolate oranges.

I was on the verge of something similar but then @Orangenz sent me an hfr clip of him popping water balloons on his RX100 V and it was all over. I was simply powerless to resist after that.

Seems the A7sii isn't one of the cashback deals so that is indeed the price now. Even in Jessops!!