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Yeah, the CinelikeD hack came out of me developing a couple of prototype controllers for Panasonic cameras before there was a pivot to the BM cameras. The PBC, and by extension the AFX, are actually built on that original foundation so if Panasonic introduce BLE control capabilities then its all there ready to go but using WiFi for control is not ideal (more in terms of power/heat with the cameras than the controller) so I'd prefer to avoid it.

I can think of a couple of YouTubers that could be that third guest and you'd could probably then sell the PPV rights to Showtime.

Unfortunately, the new one is slightly bigger so my favoured precision customisation method isn't applicable 😉

I know exactly how this feels. I went through a phase of suspecting that clicking on the buy button on any product on Amazon also triggered the press release for the release of the next version of it. With regard to this new version, I'm resisting it on the flimsiest excuse of the base of the body being a marginally different size so it won't be able to fit into my Z axis stabiliser. Of course, this stoic resistance to consumerism will likely dissolve as soon as the manufacturer of the Z axis makes a new version.

Logically, you'd think they'd put the R5 internals in the C70 style body, whack on an EVF and even double the price if they wanted to and serve up a powerhouse that still undercuts the Sony FX9 by 20%. Then you wake up and remember who's logic it is that we're dealing with.

I hesitated to go with that as I thought it was a bit niche !

<cough> €275 26/10/20 <cough> 😉

So would I if the hardware costs involved in providing real time AI face/object detection combined with 3D depth sensing allowed it.

Its dependent on the final hardware but based on the current prototype (as used in the unmasked face detection tracking video earlier in the thread) we would aim for a sub €200 price.

It won't be for another couple months after the AFX has shipped.

Thanks. It will work in portrait orientation (albeit with a narrower angle) so if you are putting the camera into portrait mode then there is no need to change it but we also recommend it to be in landscape mode because that is the way the info screen on the back is oriented. With regard to positioning, there is no limitation so you can put it in a hotshoe on the camera, or on top of a cage or a matte box or underneath the lens etc or even behind the camera if you want but obviously the only proviso is that you have it in the same position you had it when doing the initial calibration for the particular lens you are using. If it wasn't, then its not really a big deal as you can delete the calibration from the internal database and re-do it with the sensor in the new position. Calibration is a simple process and only takes minutes. As the AFX is battery powered and wireless (save for the small 3.5mm cable if you are using motors) then it is perfectly fine to use it handheld if you want, providing of course you respect the calibration issue. Handheld is an interesting use case actually as with the QuadLock function you can store up to four focus positions derived from either the sensor or manually (or any combination) and then either move to them automatically with differing dissolve times or have them as targets that you focus to manually without being able to overshoot. So using it handheld is a useful way to quickly capture the focus targets that you may use in a scene and you could even attach a small laser pointer to the top to give a visual reference while you are doing it. This is also possible when the AFX is mounted to the camera/rig of course, and would be the more common use case for solo shooters, but there are certain situations where it could be useful, most obviously with a separate person pulling focus. The other use case of course is for YouTube hosts to solve the "am I in focus?" conundrum because you can sit in front of the camera with it and fire it back at the camera to set the correct focus distance. Like an incident light meter but for focus 😉

In the same vein, this might be a useful resource for you. https://film-grab.com

An example of continuous AF on a handheld Pocket4K with Panasonic/Leica 12-60mm.

No, its now modular so that people can choose to add the functionality if they need it. This version has continuous centre point AF-C as well as AF-S and manual focus. The additional module provides the extra stuff.

As this version now has motor control incorporated, it will now also act as the base unit for an additional add on to connect (wirelessly) to it which will add the the functionality hinted at in this post.

As BLE is more widely adopted in cameras as a control interface rather than just for file transfer then they can be added as well. It could be done over wifi now with Panasonic, Sony and Canon but there are issues to do with battery life etc that makes it a bit of a compromise.

Yes, with the focus motor support it can work on any camera or lens combination. In that respect, the camera is just acting as a mounting point for the LIDAR sensor ! Obviously you only get the focus control rather than the additional full control of ISO,WB etc that you get with the BM cameras.

Already hinted at (heavily !) in another thread but the AFX focus control functionality is now a lot more universal than just the Pocket 4K/6K cinema cameras. For Pocket 4K/6K owners who want to use manual lenses as well as electronic ones there is a Hybrid mode to control the lens with the motor whilst still being able to control ISO,WB etc over BLE as usual. Supports both Nucleus N and M motors so you can use it with small lenses and large cinema ones. Pre-orders start on 26th. October. Price €199 for existing PBC owners and €275 otherwise. Nucleus M motor requires a separate adapter, price TBA.

Well I can guarantee at least one of those 😉

Thank you. Well..... They were going to be supported eventually. Maybe we've managed to put "eventually" into the microwave.... Something like that would be nice wouldn't it....

For anyone looking to have this functionality (and a bit more) without having to buy a specific new gimbal (or any gimbal for that matter), our AFX module launches a week on Monday. I'm absolutely not going to give the game away before then and say that it also supports manual lenses. Absolutely not going to spoil that surprise.

I was wondering about that too. I thought it meant they were asking permission to go to the toilet.

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OK, I'll give you some feedback then. You created an account which was not only being used to boost the posts of your main one but was actually interacting with those posts as though it was a real person. That wasn't done accidentally or unconsciously was it? You were then caught red handed and would no doubt have just continued with this deception if you hadn't been. Your response to this deliberate shithousery being exposed was a six paragraph post in which the word "sorry" didn't only not appear but it wasn't even implied. That complete lack of contrition is as bad as the initial deception.

Thick Negative sounds like two of the bullet points written on my school report.