Ken Ross

Fritz, the closest I can come to that is the 14-140, which would give it a 280mm equivalent. Add on the 1.4 ETC, and you have nearly 400mm. I have successfully hand held at that focal length and it's indeed very steady. Locked off? Not sure I'd go that far, but steadier than you'd think you could hold that equivalent focal length.

And that's something that can't be overlooked, the stabilization. The IBIS in the Sonys, including the A6500 & A7Rii, IMO, just suck. I see the same jitter than I had with OIS lenses and no IBIS on my A6300. The GH5 is just a dream for hand-holding.

We've conjectured that some of the significant AF differences we've seen in different GH5 videos is the result of differences in the lenses themselves. I've always gotten great AF results from my 14-140 and although my 15mm 1.7 is good, it's not as quick as the 14-140.

I have a feeling as to why he has so many followers.

For me, one of the most interesting points they made was something I've experienced in going from the FF A7Rii to the GH5, and you rarely hear people talk about. I always said I saw more of a difference in stills between those 2 cameras than video, as a result of the different sensor size. They made the distinction that this sized sensor is absolutely fine for video, but they see the advantages in a larger, FF sensor, for stills. I can definitely see that, but since I don't take a ton of stills, the GH5 is more than good enough for my purposes.

Or back from a quick vacation to the Bahamas?

Mattias, it simply proves I'm not a 'fanboy', but I wouldn't characterize my GH4 criticism as 'bashing the crap out of it'. I buy and use the cameras I think work the best, such as some Sonys, the Samsung NX1 and now the GH5. I have zero brand loyalty to virtually anything I buy since the 'best' can be a highly variable phenemona. I actually bought the GH4, did you know that? My criticism was not baseless and random in nature. I was very unhappy with a number of things about it. I was not happy with the obvious aperture stepping that was visible in many of my shots. I was not happy with the AF. I was not happy with the OIS of the lens I was using that gave some very odd artifacts. All this contributed to a negative feeling about the camera. But this was based on use and not a defense of something I currently owned. My comments are directed at those that are simply 'defending' their current equipment and tend to find fault even in areas where objective people know there isn't fault to be found.

With all the Sony fanboys out there? Nope. This video and 1,000 more won't end the AF controversy. But with that said, Panasonic should tweak some of the other settings that aren't working as expected and are overly complicated.

Jon, honestly, I've given up trying to figure out why there's such a diversity of results. I certainly don't begin to have those failures and many other shooters don't. It's a mystery, it really is. The one thing that's clear in some of the videos that Max does, is he tends to place things much closer to the lens than I and others might typically do. Is that a factor? Who knows. But then I did the same 'lens in front of the camera' test and mine was fine. Most of my tests were done with the 14-140 lens and I suspect that lens might also be a quicker focuser than those that Max used. My just acquired Panasonic 15mm 1.7 focuses well, but not quite as quickly. I also know that Max tends not to use 1-area AF and I'd guarantee that's a major factor. Lots of variables.

That was the other side benefit, one dial turn instead of a button push and dial turn.

No, not really. Let's say you go down in exposure less than is necessary to eliminate the zebras. So you're really still overexposed and you should still see the zebras. The problem is you won't as soon as you exit the adjustment. YEAH!!!! YEAH!!!!! And did I say, YEAH!!!! Orangenz, I'd give you 5 likes if I could. That was unquestionably my biggest annoyance with the cam and it's now gone.

Great job Chris! You certainly showed how effective 1-area AF can be. However I suspect no matter what you or I say or do, there will always be the doubters. It's impressive that your video wasn't even shot in the higher frame rate...but of course you'll be chastised for using an external recorder. Yes, we must spread the word and make believers out of the doubters! Here here Borbarad, well done!

Jon, in manual movie mode, whether I'm in P, A or S priority, as soon as I hit the exposure button (the +/- button), the zebras disappear. I'm not talking about seeing the zebras while recording, but rather while adjusting exposure prior to hitting the record button. I have the issue on the GH5 and have it on the G85. Orangenz has the same issue too. It just seems to be the way Panasonic implements zebras in these modes and it makes no sense. You want to see the zebras while you're adjusting exposure, not just after you've exited the adjustment.

Hmm, I thought nobody here liked the 'video look'. That clip was very nice, but it surely had the video look. Until you have both cameras at the same spot, with the same lighting conditions as in that ski video, you just can't make that assessment. All these corporate produced demo shots from new cameras look great. Most of the GH5 videos that people post are heavily graded, making an assessment of color capabilities nearly impossible. Precious few people really excel at grading IMO. That's why for me, grades videos don't tell me much about the camera.

Orangenz, that can't be assigned to one of the dials? I don't have the camera with me to try it, but I like the idea.

IMO, without both cameras being in the same spot under the same lighting conditions, it's very tough to tell.

Fritz, they're on, but awkward to use. So let's say you're viewing your scene, and you see areas of overexposure as indicated by your zebras. You begin to adjust exposure down, but as soon as you press the exposure button, the zebras disappear! So rather than adjusting exposure down until your zebras disappear, you're really just guessing. If you adjust exposure down by 1/3EV and then exit the exposure adjustment, the zebras will either disappear if you adjusted down far enough, or reappear if you weren't aggressive enough in your adjustment. If the zebras are still there upon exiting exposure adjustment, you then need to hit the exposure adjustment again, and bang, the zebras again disappear as soon as you hit the exposure button. It works the same way on the G85. I can't begin to understand Panasonic's thinking on this.

I'm well aware of the crappy quality requirements for U.S. broadcasting, but the fact that it could be made far far better doesn't minimize the advantages of 4K60p. When we multi stream 3 and sometimes 4 sub-channels on the same broadcast channel, it doesn't leave me impressed. Most importantly, the fact that an 'enthusiast' can produce technically, better quality material than the end result of what we see on TV, is a good thing, not one that should be derided. I'm amused by your apparent disdain for 'enthusiasts'. You use it as an almost dirty word.

The zebras disappearing when exposure compensation is changed, is something I mentioned a while back with the G85, and is my biggest annoyance with the GH5. I can't begin to understand the rationale for this decision. You need to see the zebras while adjusting exposure, not reappearing after.

OK then, if you're happier with calling it 'half decent video', that's fine.

Pretty amazing to me that at $4,500 U.S., there's no 4K60p. To me this proves that Sony still can't figure out the overheating issue after all this time. IMO they should go to a large enough body where they can combat overheating...as long as it's not the size of a house.

I like 709 in your test. More natural looking.

It's a good thing that the GH5 wasn't used in that video, because that would have started a whole new round of "Why can't the damn thing focus?". He used the G7. I posted a comment below his YouTube video "AF Lock is your friend". I will never understand why people don't use this more, especially in situations like his where the DOF would have been sufficient to retain focus on typical head movements. Excuse me while I hit my head against the wall.

Orangenz, no problem with the 14-140 lens. I took about 4 shots and each time it focused perfectly. Examples:

Seems to be a lot of ? going on.