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This looks amazing! Both in technical quality and content!

I preordered from Hotrod immediately after the BM presentation and I can confirm that the Deposit is non-refundable line was definitely there when I ordered. I know for sure it was because it made me pause for a beat to decide if I definitely wanted to order at that moment.

Let me clarify: I mean the developments in what camera manufacturers are doing with SD cards, not the cards themselves. The BMPCC was revolutionary in offering internal 10 bit Prores and 12 bit raw log footage direct to internal SD cards. This was something never thought possible before. That sparked demand for Panasonic to add log to the GH4 and finally internal 10 bit to the GH5. I'd bet that those developments would not have been pushed forward without BM proving it was possible to consumers.

The nice thing about the new Pocket is it should hold its value for a long time. Plus, if you preorder with a credit card through B&H they won't charge it until it ships

I think the one impact Blackmagic has truly had on the prosumer market is the continued developments in SD cards. Had the Pocket not pushed what people saw as possible in SD cards, I'd bet that even Panasonic's EVA-1 would be using CFast.

You can always use a Vmount or other battery solution through the DC...it's about as run-and-gun as it can get.

My theory is that they've learned from their past mistakes: massive demand with limited supply, relying on vendors to deliver critical components on time, and poor QC issues. This timeline should hopefully give them the time they need to iron out the manufacturing process. Don't forget the PR disasters of the original Pocket and Ursa Mini launches.

Absurd to you and me, but I think the price puts this camera right in the crosshairs of some vloggers. Hell, people are vlogging with RED Weapons. The more Pockets BM sells, the more likely they'll make another. Keep the vloggers comin'!

Right before that he literally says, "The product is finished." And then he proceeds to say that they just have to nail down the manufacturing process.... A lot of people are making the joke that they'll probably take another year to start shipping, but BM is a way different company than it was back in 2013. They'll deliver in September. That's my bet.

According to Grant during the livestream, the camera is actually done development wise. They just have to scope the manufacturing process. I still wouldn't hold my breath for a pre-September release, but I think BM has learned from their past not to be overly optimistic on delivery dates.

Thank you! That's where I thought it would be

Mind saying from where?

Anyone have an idea when preorders will open? Sometimes they come with announcements, other times not.

The pop out section around the lens mount, the space between the mount to grip, and the space on the opposite side all look larger than the GH5 to me. But, yeah the lens does look a little larger by comparison. Hmm.... Veryyyyy true! Hadn't thought of it.

From above. The Pocket looks massive in comparison.

From LM Mullen in GH5/s Facebook group. I spy a little shutter release button for stills and two record buttons. What is that flash-looking thing on the right?? Correction: photo originally from Videotex Systems on Twitter.

The price will intimidate many GH users. A large chunk of them like to think that their camera is the very best: anything more expensive is stupid overkill and anything equal or less is garbage. This price bracket seems to be where the most fragile egos exist.

Just ordered a set of C47 Pro's!

Oh I completely agree. It doesn't belong in the Pocket cam. I'm just saying that for certain applications it's very useful. More of a comment on the industry overall

+1 IBIS is an excellent tool when it's needed. It's one of those features that's radically changed the game.

Depends on the users is right. I wanted to love the original BMPCC desperately. I bought and sold it 3 separate times because it kept drawing me back. The image is beautiful, but the horrible audio preamps and battery life, poor screen, and overall ergonomics trumped the amazing IQ for me. The GH5s is exactly the kind of camera that suits me best: an all-in-one unit that gets out of my way when I shoot. And it has excellent IQ to boot. If the new BMPCC can come close to that level of usability, then it will get my attention.

Ah I gotcha now. I thought the y axis on the chart literally meant log profile, but I see that it's actually referring to the curve of the chart itself. I guess my sticking point is in the strict definition of native vs. base ISO. From what I understand, native ISO refers to where a camera performs best in regards to DR, highlight rolloff, and noise (debatable). Straying away from that native ISO, up or down, leads to a drop in that maximum quality. That's why dual native ISO is so powerful; it gives you another upper option for maximum quality. From what I've read there are two distinct circuitry pathways required to implement dual native ISO. I could definitely be wrong, but I believe that some of these cameras are actually implementing a second base ISO. It will give some of the benefits, but not all of them. At this point I'm less confident in my opinion though, haha

The chart shows the DR curve of the A7s in s-log. The native ISO of the A7s in s-log is 3200, so that explains the behavior there. I wish I had more hard data on hand, but anecdotally Panasonic have heavily marketed their dual native ISO tech in every camera they put it in. It is a big deal and a real selling point. Kinefinity has it and now so does RED, and they all market it heavily because it's a big deal. So, I doubt that Sony (or any company) would just stick this feature in there and not shout it from the rooftops. This is interesting and does seem to fit into the real definition of dual native ISO.

I think there's some blending of terminology here. The Sony's have a base ISO in standard picture profiles and a different base ISO for log profiles, but this isn't dual native ISO. In the past, Red cameras have used a technique for HDR by alternating ISO values every other frame, but again this isn't dual native ISO. Or the American Gladiators