DeesserLord

Hi, Anyone would mind sharing a C-Log 3 video sample in 4K from the Canon EOS R7 ? I can't find any sample to download online. I'd love to see how it grades in Resolve. Thanks

https://***URL removed***/news/5472961411/canon-announces-rebel-t8i-with-revamped-af-and-4k-video The newest and highest-performing Rebel camera within the Canon lineup features the DIGIC 8 Image Processor, eye-detection in live view, 4K video, clean 4K HDMI outputˆ ˆ Output of images in 4K UHD resolution without shooting information. If monitor does not support 4K UHD, the resolution of the output format is lowered for display. Optical Viewfinder with a 45-point All Cross-type AF System with Face Detect to ensure images are in focus 24 Megapixel CMOS (APS-C) Sensor• Continuous Shooting at up to 7.0 fps 4K UHD, Full HD up to 24P Equipped with an Approx. 220,000 Pixel New AE Sensor and EOS iTR AF (Face Detection) Fast & Accurate Dual Pixel CMOS AF with Eye-detection (Servo) Vari-angle, 3.0-inch LCD Touch Screen Advanced Control with AF-ON Button and Quick Control Dial Built-in Wi-Fi®2 and Bluetooth®3 Connectivity no words on 4K crop though i suspect it is there

No words on 4K crop or not ? Canon may have waited too long to update their cameras but they still hold up to me Completely silent autofocus with the STM lenses Great AF with dual pixel, smooth transitions Smooth iso transition in auto mode (no steps) Great user interface Great tilting screen Best color science to me Great colors in low light Good battery life Great handling I owned a X-T20 and returned it when i realized it's not all just about bitrate

what do they mean by "proper" 4K ? no crop ? that would be great. I think i read somewhere dual pixel AF doesn't work in 4K though. I hope the bitrate is good.

Hi Seems like nobody is interested in the T8i... Did the full video specs leak ? bitrate ? crop ? Is it improved over the T7i ?

holy shit why didn't i heard about these filters before ? thanks for the info. here's a comparison. i guess 1/2 is a bit too much tough

I wonder how the X-T30 can be so sharp at 1/50 @ F3.5 with an APS-C sensor. Is this some kind of processing ? Are big cameras like RED or ARRI sharp like that too at 1/50 ? I guess so, since the sensor is FF and modern cinema lens super fast and sharp... How do they achieve a soft film look then ? -- found an interesting list here https://www.indiewire.com/2018/11/cameras-lens-2019-oscar-contenders-best-cinematography-1202019782/ Seems like "vintage lenses in a modern housing" is a thing. I'm not surprised. It's the same in audio, you get a more pleasing sound with more character from vintage / tube microphones than super clean ones straight into a super clean soundcard.

i can't share a sample since all my tests involve my kids and wife. I've look at them again, the X-T30 is still very sharp at 1/50, whereas the Canon with the 18-55 lens has more "motion blur". I might have used the term jitter but i don't think it's true. I still get the feeling the way it handles motion is different than the canon. It reminds me of the A6000, but this one has some artifacts due to the weird codec it uses iirc. I doubt i would have been happy with 1/30 or 1/40, i tried it a while ago on my canon and sony A6000 and wasn't pleased with the result (yes i know) and i have other issues with the xt-30 as i've said earlier.

I use VisionColor (not free) with contrast -2, sharpness to minimum, saturation at zero. my issue with the motion on the xt30 might not be rolling shutter (though it surely doesn’t help), I just can’t describe it properly, my English has its limits.

Thanks. I didn't try the X-T30 at 1080p (i was really hoping to switch to 4K). It looks good on dpreview https://***URL removed***/reviews/fujifilm-x-t30-review/8 . But i had other issues with the camera : i thought the auto-iso realtime transitions were too harsh / stepped, the kit lens was noisy (the canon STM are completely silent), the surprising lack of custom user "picture profile", which forced me to use FLOG + a custom LUT, the not so great user interface, still much better than sony (awful) but i prefer the canon one, and most importantly i prefer Canon's color science... So i think i'm going to stick to 1080p and try a Canon M50 with a (discontinued) 18-55 STM lens (not a fan of 15-45). Its 1080p seems sharper than the T6i. We'll see. This whole thing made me realize we all trash Canon for their lack of real upgrade in the video department for too long, but their stuff still holds up when you really look in the details. Hopefully things will evolve in a few year and 4K will mature a bit. Right now unless you spend a lot it seems like it's always gonna be a compromise.

Thanks. Rolling shutter is worse than I thought at 1/50, might be why the motion looks strange. Skin tones can look weird indeed in Provia or Astia, that’s why I used F-Log

Except it still has the same unnatural high shutter speed look at 1/50, with rolling shutter making things worse, and you get banding under some led lights which never occurred with the canon. Some users have actual EXPERIENCE with said cameras while some just endlessly read reviews and forums, just follow the hype and think they help. Yes it’s a great camera for you tubers, for a video look, but not for those aiming an analog film look. Show me your « filmic » footage with analog like 24p motion shot on the xt30 and A6000 if you want to prove me wrong .

not my video, maybe not 1/50 but just look how it looks when she moves quickly. who ´s the troll ? Anyway, I’m out.

It's literally in the first post, why would i need to repeat ? Why not telling me which camera is the best under 1500$ right off the bat ? I know a lot of people like the A6000 and X-T30 and probably some of their users reading this thread are unhappy i don't like their camera. If you think they make great footage with great motion cadence and i'm wrong, fine, i really don't care. I did some tests lowering the shutter speed and while i didn't record them to really precisely compare to 1/50, what i've seen in the live view looked very similar. Again, i think the lower 1080p resolution + the mushy look of the Canon + the bigger darker blurrier 18-55 lens probably helps hide some of the motion artefacts. This is probably what separates DSLR from expensive dedicated 4K video cameras... They don't have to translate a say 24MP sensor to 3840x2160 in realtime with a modest processor, and their software is more optimized.

Then how could you help at all ? Nothing against you but this common practice of always second guessing the OP on web forums isn't always fruitful. There's something unnatural about the motion cadence of the A6000 and the X-T30, and all the tests and settings change i did couldn't help it. Believe me i was pissed.