JordanWright

Just an update as I received my replacement unit, it was longer going through CVP because they had to wait for a replacement unit to be in stock (they are hard to get hold of in the UK at the moment COVID related?) so I would advice going straight through BM in the future. The replacement unit has once again different internal packaging, similar to the original but made out of foam. My previous unit was significantly different, most the accessories came in white boxes. Either way neither had any packaging related issues. After testing the camera, this unit seems to have significantly less noise than my previous unit. I previously stated that the 6k had a bit more noise than the 4k but this unit is much, much better than my old 4k. I suspect my previous 6k unit also had a sensor issue.

This looks like a great camera image and specs wise! Fixes all the issues I used to have with the A7s ii. It would be a great to pair with the fantastic zeiss loxia lenses.

A lot of people starting to get stormtroopers, I think we will start to get some decent footage soon. It's a bit disappointing to see that no RF lenses will work at launch.

https://tilta.com/2020/07/tiltaing-camera-cage-for-canon-r5/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=canon&mc_cid=a126d63240&mc_eid=7e584396d7 Looks like tilta are literally strapping a fan to the back

Sorry i'm a different Jordan haha

Ive had good experiences with them, sent a camera in 3 times now (third in currently). The first time I called up (although this time I couldn't find a number, maybe covid related?) I explained an issue and was guided through troubleshooting it by someone who seemed to have a lot of information. The first 2 times I had a camera repaired/replaced and had it back in my hands within 48 Hours. I remember dealing with DHL a little frustrating arranging a pickup. This time I have gone through CVP and its taking a little longer as there repair guys looked at it before sending it to BM. Ill update when my current issue is resolved!

Theres no changing minds over there, they're in too deep. They were lining up to preorder Komodo at a premium without any footage and limited details on specs

I'm really not seeing the magenta cast

Theres an OG EF 4.6k on eBay here in the UK for £1890! Similar price as the Pocket 6k now.

It's not a bayer sensor, i'm no expert but the sensor was designed to downsample without those issues. I'd refer you to some of the guys in the BM forum that could explain it better.

I think a lot of people have missed the point of this camera. It isn't just a 12K S35 camera, its also a 8K/6K/4K S35 and a 6K/4K s16 camera. It's been designed to shoot in all those formats without downsides. If you don't want 12K, don't shoot it, but it is there if you do want it.

http://phfx.com/tools/formatCompare/formatCompare.cgi?makeA=RED&modelA=Komodo+6K&formatA=6K+FF&makeB=Blackmagic+Design&modelB=Ursa+Mini+Pro+12K&formatB=12K+DCI&focalLengths= It has exactly the same size sensor as the Komodo

Top DPs first, shipping in a few weeks to everyone else

Rolling Shutter (Approx) 12K: 15ms 8K: 6ms Source: John Brawley

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/blackmagicursaminipro Product page

I love that they kept S35

6K S16 is very interesting

URSA Mini Pro 12K S35 14 Stops DCI 17:9 Sensor Really didn't expect that!

12K!!!!!!!

Great read Andrew! On the BM forums John Brawley said 'This is one that’s worth making the time to watch....' I can't see it just being a firmware update (unless it enables the camera to make you breakfast) Very interested on what they come out with. I think a Pocket Pro is viable but i'm only hesitant as it hasn't even been a year since the 6k yet. A 6k Micro would make the most sense to me, a lot of people seem to like the 'camera in a box' style as shown by z-cam and Komodo. Although I don't see why they wouldn't just use the S35 sensor from the Pocket 6k, It's a fantastic performer.

They surely won't be allowed to use the E-Mount... as much as id love to use the Loxia lenses on a BM! L-Mount could be a possibility, they are letting the FP record braw.

My moneys on an update to the Micro Cinema Camera, It's the only 'older' camera in their current lineup. I assume it'll be a box version of the Pocket 6k. Probably EF mount, it looks like they are trying to unify the lineup to 1 mount.

I just sold my 4k for £1100 after owning it since release, I purchased it for £1085. Saying that, the 6k I purchased had an issue and has just been sent back for a replacement!

Just upgraded from the 4k to the 6k and thought i'd share some thoughts. I think they have updated the packaging again because my unit was significantly different than either version i've seen online. There was no scratches or scuffs to the body and the sensor was clean and clear. One of my main concerns with the 6K was how tight the fit of the lens mount would be but upon testing, my unit was great. It is very tight and holds the lens much better than the my 4k did. All ports/connections work correctly. The only issue I have a few stuck pixels on the monitor (not sensor). Its not a huge deal but not nice to see on a brand new camera. I have read that all LCD monitors have a few and often warranty doesn't cover it but i've opened a ticket with Blackmagic to see what they say. They have always been incredible in the past! I don't remember seeing any stuck pixels on my 4K (although I didn't look for them). Battery life appears slightly worse than the 4k. Approx 46m to 42m continuous recording in 4k ProRes to a Cfast card. Obviously requires larger and faster cfast cards mine are already on the approved list but I might pick up 1 or 2 more. Also the 6k feels much heavier than the 4k and is slightly louder although not enough to hear even in an interview setup. Don't block the bottom fans on the 6k, the camera expels a lot of heat during long recordings. These are only initial tests, i'll need more time with the camera to form a better opinion, I haven't used it on an actual shoot yet. I also didn't have the cameras side by side. I really see the 4k and 6k as complimentary cameras that both have positives and negatives. Price wise, it was only a £100 upgrade from the 4k & SB to the 6k. I also find it incredible that I sold my 4k & a speed booster for the exact price I purchased them for brand new almost 2 years ago. The Dynamic range isn't miles apart but is improved. The 6k appears to do much better in the highlights but might have a touch more noise in the shadows. Although this is offset when putting the 6k file in a 4k timeline. To my eye, the colour is very similar. Samples online show the 6k to have slightly more accurate skin tones but, without a side-by-side, you'll never tell the difference. It's worth noting that the 6k does have more rolling shutter, the 4k is much more controlled in this area. The 6k has a larger sensor (1.55x to the 4k's 1.89x) but a speed booster gives the 4k a much wider FOV (1.22x using the Metabones XL). However, I've found that speed boosters mess with the image too much. I personally wouldn't recommend one. Ive picked up a new sigma 18-35mm as my standard zoom. It would also work very well as a standard zoom for the 4k (non-speedbooster). The sigma isn't my favourite lens, but you can't beat the range and the speed and performance for the price. My Tok 28-70 was way too telephoto for the 6k (it was on the edge for the 4k XL). On a side note, the sigma Is MUCH contraster and sharper than the Tokina. I might try out a low-con style filter. Recommendations welcome!

Just a little update to my Contax Zeiss journey. I created and sold a set. I ended up with a 25mm 2.8 35mm 2.8 50mm 1.4. I was planning on selling the 50mm and picking up an 85mm 2.8. When I found I buyer for the 50mm, he asked if I had anymore and made me a generous offer for the full set. I think I will build a new set up in the future. A few notes for people who might be picking up a few lenses. 1) DON'T sleep on the 25mm 2.8 MM. I returned the 28mm because it had an aperture issue and saw a good price on the 25mm. This lens has reviewed poorly and doesn't test well on the charts, especially in the corners, but wow what an image! It's bitingly sharp in the centre but does suffer in the corners a bit. It has very good subject separation and pop, pleasing flares and very good close focus. It was a bit of magic, by-far my favourite of the set. 2) The flares across the set are quite consistant and have similar characteristics. It's very easy to cut the lenses together. 3) Treat the 50mm 1.4 strictly as a 2.8. Possibly my least favourite lens of the set. The 50mm 1.4 was dreamy wide open and warmer than the rest of the set. Ive read that earlier versions perform slightly better. Although stopped down to 2.8 and it was very sharp but I tended to gravitate to the 35mm 2.8 and just move a bit closer. Maybe it's my bias as I tend to prefer wider lenses though? Many people love the 50 1.4. 4) I wish there was something fast, affordable and wider than the 25mm. The 21mm would have been perfect but prices on that lens are outrageous. I've read that the Zeiss ZE 21mm 2.8 is the same optical formulae and has almost identical performance, however you lose the aperture ring on the EF version and Focus Direction is reversed on the F version. There is an 18 F4 that would probably be the option I would go for if I was to buy the set again. 18 is about as wide as I would need on S35, you could probably get away with the 25mm as your widest on a larger sensor. 5) I wouldn't recommend a speed booster with these lenses (or any lens actually). Contax Zeiss requires 2 irreversible modifications if you use a regular speed booster or 1 if you use a cine lock version. Ive also noticed just how much speed boosters mess with the image, I very much dislike its effect on lens flares and the distortion it introduces (Tested on 2 different versions of the Metabones XL). They are good at what they are for, but they are not a magic fix-all solution. This process convinced me to sell mine and seek a solution without one. Although I will miss the positive EF mount, that thing is priceless! 6) Mint doesn't mean mint. There is a significant amount of dishonestly in sellers and people selling on behalf of there older relatives who don't know possible issues. Overall I purchased 6 lenses and 3 had to be returned. (Misting, Aperture actuation issue and lumpy focus ring) 7) Don't get too curious and start opening up the lenses, you'll drop a ball bearing on your carpet and it'll be gone forever and you'll have to keep ordering different sizes on amazon until one fits! (1.5-1.8mm will work as a replacement in the smaller MMs) I'm sure i'll pick up some of these lenses again in the future (defo the 25mm again), I do almost regret selling them but I made a bit of profit to put into other areas of my kit.