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I missed your point about it being in the S9 chassis, but that makes total sense and gives a lot of hope for a GX10, as if they can fit a FF IBIS sensor assembly in there they should be able to fit a MFT IBIS sensor assembly in there too. If they announced one of those I'd be very tempted to pre-order one. I'm super happy with the images from my GH7 but the size is cumbersome for a lot of things, and my GX85 still softly calls to me because of the form-factor. Once you add a large lens to it the difference becomes less significant of course, but there are lots of small lenses. This is the GX85 vs the GH7 (they haven't put the L10 in yet) but it shows my general point: Looking at the size this way really does show the genius of the LX100 and L10. This is the LX100 vs the GX85, but the GX85 has the 12-35mm F2.8 lens, which not only is MUCH larger than the LX100 (open and closed), but the lens is 1.5 stops SLOWER at the wide end than the one in the LX100 and L10!! In order to get an MFT camera to match / surpass the LX100 / L10 lens, you need to go to the 10-25mm F1.7 lens, which isn't a fair test as it's wider and constant F1.7, but the size difference is.... stunning. The more I think about it, the more I realise the F1.7-2.8 lens and GH7 sensor combo really an 80% combo, where with its speed and aperture and the GH7s ISO performance, for general travel / family / hobby / creator / vlogging / etc stuff you'll only really miss the odd situation here or there where you'd wish for something more. This is absolutely in contrast to the other little cameras I've looked at (the Sony ZV-1 comes to mind) where as soon as you go inside or after the sun sets the image turns to mush with the poor ISO performance, plus the DR of the GH7 sensor will seriously embarrass lots of the alternative options too. This is because most of them are just old, but that seems to be the state of the market for these smallest options. I'm not really sure what the current alternatives are for the L10, but happy to hear if someone wants to make a list...

Size is a funny thing as there are two different comparisons to be made - one is with it switched off (and lens retracted) and the other with it on and lens extended. I've noticed that people often only care about one of these and don't give a hoot about the other. The EDC crowd only care if it's pocketable (while off and lens retracted) so they can take it everywhere and others (like me) only really care about it when it's being used. From the perspective of what it's like when it's on and extended, especially if you use the sci-fi looking triangle door lens cap thing which will attract all kinds of "WTF is that thing?" attention: It never ceases to amaze me how different we all are from each other, even when literally talking about the same piece of equipment!

Perhaps the biggest mistake was inviting a bunch of influencers with tiny hands to come to Japan and make it look enormous by comparison. They could have just had someone the size of Shaq in the lobby holding one and posing and every video would have started with a very different tone! Sounds pretty normal to me, but my household has a rather eclectic purchase history, so I might be an outlier!

The battle of Resolution vs Common Sense was over long ago and us consumers were the losers.

Well, that intern got Panasonic 20 hours of clear air, but the intern from Canon that chose when to announce the R6V only managed to get about an hour before Sony released the A7R VI, so I guess everything is relative! Still, they're all for different audiences and at different price points etc. A $1500 P&S vs a $2500 FF camera vs a $4500 67MP beast. I doubt many people went "oh no, I preordered the L10 but the Sony has higher resolution - pre-order cancelled!"

@mercer Canon just released the R6V, which is somewhere between the R6III and C50. Another option to consider...

Yeah, some pretty nice looking images from that lens. Realistically, on a consumer camera without RAW or Prores, the codecs are potentially going to be the limiting factor more often than the lens. I'm easy to please though, as my aesthetic leans towards the analog and emotive rather than the person building a personal database of all image sharpening techniques ever created.

I'm optimistic about it, but there are no guarantees. Also, if it has an MFT mount it might be more expensive rather than cheaper, you never know.

I searched for "LX100" instead of "Landscape" and it seemed to work, with most shots meeting the criteria...

Well, they just launched the Canon R6V, so I hope Panasonic enjoyed their 20 hours of PR!

Looks decent. Finally a small camera that isn't arbitrarily locked to 100Mbps (or 200Mbps if you're lucky) IPB codecs. I always wondered if the small form-factor would influence how much processing they could fit into it, or even IF the size influenced the processing at all.

Like. Subscribe. True. I was referring to a fictional interchangeable lens version in the future, but for this one it seems like they've compensated for this in their menus as the focal lengths seem to all be in FF equivalents: I very much doubt anyone shooting with a zoom will be terribly fastidious about shooting with exactly 35mm (and not 40mm) but I could be wrong, and the ability to set that zoom switch to preset focal lengths will certainly encourage people to stick to exact settings. Absolutely. Although TBH unless you're shooting professionally (which this isn't the camera for) or doing something really specific (like shooting green-screens) then a downsampled and lesser codec is still in the realm of being passable for most purposes. Especially with software like Resolve bringing all kinds of processing within reach. I must admit that I find judging image quality from other peoples images to be almost impossible as you're likely just seeing average images of the most incredible scenes. I remember back in the early days of digital when almost all photos were completely rubbish but there was always one or two photos you shot that looked magical because the light was just right and the scene happened to make a great composition or the scene was rubbish and the colour profile was also rubbish but they happened to collide in a way that is creatively interesting. Unfortunately for me, that means when judging lenses I either have to replicate that focal length / aperture combination on my existing equipment or just buy the damned thing to understand what it's like to actually use!

Cool camera. I literally did an ISO test on my GX85 less than an hour ago and was calculating what ISO/lens combos I could get away with for shooting street at night. I love my GH7 but the size of the GX85 keeps quietly calling to me. I see it as a fun little camera for photography with some cool video capabilities. I also see it as an incredible sign we're likely to get a new small interchangeable-lens MFT camera, although maybe the form-factor would be a bit small for including IBIS, so we'll have to see if the size gets a bump. I also see if as a fantastic sign that I missed the announcement completely as the only video in my feed about it was from Micro Four Nerds, so that's an encouraging sign about the amount of professional camera YouTubers I subscribe to! I'd go even further than @BTM_Pix about the crop-factor and say it's potentially even better than a 'normal' crop factor. By the time you're playing MFT you're already doing lens math all the time, and my experiences with the GH5/7 and GX85 and OG BM cameras was that it encouraged curiosity in different lenses, different focal lengths, different looks (from different FOVs), and different creative directions from the different looks. For me the (imposed) variety was a source of creativity rather than a limitation. I've seen videos recently talking about new 40mm lenses and the people struggled to understand the lens, and also seemed to struggle with the entire concept of how small changes in FOV can have large changes in how you use them, whereas this is something I'm very familiar with and seems to be an advantage over people who only ever use "proper" cameras. The other thing that might be relevant is that the GH7 actually has some small crop-factors too. Obviously shooting 5.7K doesn't crop, but C4K, UHD, and 1080p have subtle variations in their crop factors, so maybe that 2.2x is coming from the sensor? Still, even if no future MFT camera materialises, this might end up with a spot in my lineup anyway. The GH7 sensor has incredibly improved low-light (compared to any camera of a similar size) so the F1.7-2.8 lens should be quite serviceable in low-light and would have a shallow enough DOF for some nice separation in many situations too. I'm keen to see some numbers about how large it is.

Yeah, unfortunately it didn't have captions so I couldn't use auto-translate, but I noticed some waveforms and the tests seemed controlled etc so pretty good effort. His enthusiasm was..... pretty darn high too!

I'd be very curious about what this one is (from his thumbnail): Unfortunately it's not in the video and some googling couldn't find it, so I suspect it's AI?