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There are no embarrassing questions - especially this one where there isn't an easy answer. In terms of the basic premise that underlies everything, that one is easy... give people something valuable. I watch Casey because he's entertaining, and also has a strong personal philosophy that makes me question my own. This is worth my time. Peter McKinnon is also entertaining, and sometimes I learn something from him. I watch Caleb Pike because I learn things. I watch Wedding Film School and Kraig Adams because I learn things, plus they're entertaining. I watch Juan Melara because I learn a crazy amount from every video he makes, even though his videos aren't particularly entertaining. I watch Aliens Guide because it's funny as hell. I love watching documentaries because I learn things about how the world works, I love watching foreign films because they give me an insight into other cultures or other periods in history. Work out what you're selling, then get out there and find people that want that thing. Gary Vaynerchuck says that people struggling to start a business should vlog because their journey to try and create something is actually more valuable than their business (because most businesses fail). He's worth a look on YT if you haven't heard of him - super opinionated and hugely "go go go" motivational guy, but he doesn't mince words and he knows his shit, plus he's built a $100M social media marketing company so he knows a thing or two about how to succeed. Ignore viral anything and all the clickbait BS - give something valuable to people and get out and tell people about it and you'll be fine. but don't expect it to happen quickly.

It would have been nice if they'd be graded the same, or white balanced the same. I'd like the same test to be done half-way properly, and using Resolve with a colour checker of some kind so we're comparing the cameras and not the WB or the grades. In the 2012 Zacuto test I didn't rank the Sony F65 highly because I didn't like the grade, yet it is a lovely camera.

Screw slow-motion.. I want people who make review videos to make a list of things they want to say before they hit the record button! Watching 4 minutes of content delivered over 20+ minutes isn't helping anyone. I get that people want to get these videos uploaded fast and don't want to edit that much. A plan of what to say is kind of like doing the editing before you shoot.

The recipe that I hear from the professional youtubers and bloggers is to: 1) be consistent but expect it to take 5 years before it's a full-time income, and 2) be authentic. If you're crazy good then it will take less time, but my impression is that it always sucks at the start. One thing I did take note of was that if you come to the attention of someone with a much larger following than you, they will either mention you or not based upon the quality of your past works. This means that instead of looking at the views of your uploads / posts as you release them, think of them more like your resume for getting big mentions later on. If you're not enjoying it, then it might be time to change it up so that you're enjoying the journey rather than just grinding to get to somewhere else? What is it you're doing anyway?

Good stuff! Controversial opinions are good when they are presented with some arguments behind them - it doesn't matter if you agree or disagree because either way they make you think and perhaps challenge your own beliefs and philosophies. Congrats Andrew on EOSTV!! May there be many more episodes to come!

Wow.. Isn't it just! and this one is lovely too, but makes me think of the caption "Woman miraculously untouched in freak firework accident"....

In regards to camera and battery size, I think the comments about the design being flawed or broken because they don't meet all your dreams is silly. You can make a small camera larger by adding things, you can't make a large camera smaller by not putting in the huge battery. The P4K is small and portable, making it a very capable travel setup. Sure, you carry a bunch of batteries, but if you're turning the camera on, taking a few shots, turning it off and then changing locations then small is great and batteries can go in your bag with your water and you won't even notice the weight because they're in your bag not in your hands when holding the camera. If you want to add huge batteries and a cage then that's fine too, they're available and it has the ports. If you want to set it up for an interview then carry a huge battery setup and plug it into the camera when you need to. It's modular.... just like all cinema cameras. Assuming other people shoot the way you do it either naive or arrogant or fundamentally fail to understand modularity at all. Buy the camera if it fits your needs, otherwise, buy a Venice or other huge camera and shut up about a camera that isn't made for you! The clue is in the name - "pocket" cinema camera. Seriously... <rant over> Thanks Jn, out of likes for today. Those modes are really well thought out and should do well. It's good they have the hybrid modes that change one and then the other, considering that cinema cameras often don't have the SS range of hybrids that some might be used to. My XC10 has a range of about 3-4 stops with SS so I carry a 4-stop fixed ND in addition to the 3-stop internal one in order to be able to expose when the sun is in shot without blowing out a large circle of the sky around the sun.

Thanks - it kind of does. I was more thinking something like "it went down when the GH5S came out and people upgraded and then the retail went down before xmas and then people sold a bunch when the A7III was released" etc.. Do cameras drop in price when newer competing cameras are announced, or released, or is it more seasonal, eg xmas?

Actually, my TVs don't tune into anything other than online digital content But yes, we're starting to get to the business end of globalisation and the information age and lots of people aren't happy about having the world turned upside-down without their prior approval.

Does anyone know the price history of the GH5 and when it's likely to drop in price further? I haven't been following it, but now it's in first place in my list so I'm wondering about timing. I'm gathering that some of these new cameras being released are going to replace GH5s and thus the used price will drop?

YT requires you to disclose if a video contains a promotion - I'm sure there's a definition behind that and I'd be surprised if Peter wasn't making sure to meet that criteria, considering that his YT channel is the cornerstone of his income and PR. It would be interesting to understand the full picture though. Having good friends in a company wouldn't be included in that tick-box, neither would being able to borrow equipment for free, or borrow equipment before the stores get it in stock probably either. We didn't used to blend business with personal relationships, or if we did it was in a way that was understood (eg, if you were in purchasing and everyone knew you were taking kick-backs), but it's now much more difficult to sort out who is sufficiently impartial to tell the whole truth, who tells enough of the truth to be useful, and who will mislead you. We're in tricky territory unfortunately. I heard that kids are pretty good at judging authenticity and apparently do it really fast. I think it's a skill that we all need to further develop. Agreed. Trust is about disclosure. Thanks for your efforts and keep us updated.

What's that line.. "57 channels and nothing on" TV was like that too! ???

I am contemplating this exact question and I think it might be something like 35mm. We all know 28mm because it's the widest end of the kit lens and most phones, and it's very flexible but I think a little too wide for nice people shots. 35mm is still an environmental portrait but is a little nicer aesthetically. In terms of going wider, you always want a wider lens unless you've got something around the 12mm mark, which makes landscapes look great, so 28mm is a compromise for both people and landscapes. Most videos are more about the people than the scenery, and you can always pan, which reveals the scenery instead of just hitting you with it like a still image needs to. Like Jon I love the ability to punch in, so I'd be tempted to get a lens that was about 35mm punched in, and was wider at the full sensor read-out. Of course, in reality, it's easy and cheap to add a 50mm equivalent, so combined with crop mode that would give you ~25mm, ~35mm, 50mm, and ~80 with just two primes. and you can scale a bit in post without losing much quality, especially if you shoot in 4K, so the flexibility is there

in which case, I'm looking forward to seeing it used with more flavourful lenses.. the 0.95 Voitlanders, the Hellios 44M-4, etc etc... even adding a Tiffen Black Pro Mist filter. Damn that would be something! Does anyone know if it does auto-exposure using ISO or SS? I saw something about auto-iris in the specifications, but nothing else. If it doesn't then that will give a lot of YouTubers unboxing shock!

Damn that's nice. I'm surprised to see it's the 2.8 zoom, which I assume is like most modern lenses and doesn't have much flavour, which means it's the BM side that is where the magic is coming from. Not in camera tests. I shoot my videos and hardly any shots are slow-mo, but they're real videos about content, not tests The wolfcrow comparison was interesting, showing the GH5 and P4K limitations compared to ARRI. However, if you capture everything then I think it's up to the grade, and grading is a huge amount more difficult than most people on YT even understand. Just look at Juan Melara vs the YT colourists who don't grade high-end stuff - they don't even use the same tools!! Unlike Sony who build cooling system that assumes there's a blizzard blowing directly onto the camera body!! Agreed. So many camera tests where the person doesn't even WB and then the armchair pixel peepers extrapolate it to the moon! It's also a very similar size (width I think) so BM has been quite sneaky in allowing us all to still think of the size of the original pocket.. The best is absolutely yet to come, and I suspect that like many other low-end cinema cameras, the best will be on TV or the big screen, not on YT with the camera and lenses in the video description, so we won't have any clue. That was one of my main beefs with the persecution that the XC10 and XC15 received - they are frequently seen on professional sets and footage from them is probably used regularly and no-one would ever be able to tell, meanwhile a few online tests by people who can't WB are pixel peeped to death and everyone thinks the footage is worse than the first iPhone...

Nah, stick around and you'll realise he's way to grumpy to be a believer in almost anything!! Welcome to the forums.. home of nice people, good advice, and a bit of snark and hip-and-shoulder too Awesome - what lens is that? 12mm and crazy fast? Shallow DoF simulations in VIDEO will come, it's just about processing power. My understanding is that they do it by having two cameras where one of them senses depth (could be wrong here) but basically they take two images and then do math to work out which bits they should blur. With computing power going up steadily it's just a matter of time, and Apple has already demonstrated it's something people want that is worthwhile investing the tech into. It might be something they do in post - if they record both streams and then "develop" it later in non-realtime even. I understand your POV and agree, but also see @webrunner5 perspective too. I look at it from a few perspectives: Image quality - smartphones are getting better so fast that they'll soon be 'good enough' except in difficult lighting conditions (the 2012 Zacuto camera shootout was interesting and we've come a long way since the iPhone 4s which was used in that shootout) Flexibility - more DR and function buttons and all that stuff really matters because it makes it a lot easier to get the results you want - lower DR, a touchscreen and lightening/USB port is a million miles from a C300 and that really matters on set Connectivity - SDI ports, timecode, external power options really matter and phones are basically nowhere on this Convenience - phones are always with you, always on, and don't attract a lot of attention, which means that much more content is available to film, either from the perspective that a dedicated camera would prevent you from getting the shot or that it would just make it more difficult We evaluate phones on image quality and convenience alone because they lack the other practical things that "real" cameras have. It depends on what you shoot and your priorities I think. Arguments start when people have different priorities and don't fully explain themselves. Please everyone be nice - in person most of us would agree and calmly explain ourselves It depends on what you're shooting. If you're in good light, and are looking for a wide angle deep DoF shot and don't need timecode and external monitoring then a phone can be almost as good as an Alexa. I take shots on my phone when I travel quite a bit because that combination is great for scenic landscapes and such, even though I have an XC10 that has decent DR, C-Log, 305Mbps codec, timecode, and ergonomics that most DSLRs can only dream of. I've seen a lovely wedding video shot with an iPhone. It was an experiment, the couple agreed ahead of time, and they probably didn't pay full price, but it worked. Film-making is all about compromises, we don't have cameras that can meet how well we see so capturing things is always choosing which things the human eye can see that we don't capture, and phones are no different, they're just more of a compromise. So, you CAN shoot a wedding, but at least for now you probably SHOULDN'T Every thread is mostly the same conversation - convergence. More specifically the convergence of Hollywood, the movie theatre, broadcast television, cinema cameras, home movie cameras, film-splicing editing machines, recording studios, typewriters and telephones. Fast forward far enough and these will all be included into a tiny device mounted somewhere near our eye. This convergence is difficult for many people to come to terms with because these things never touched. Not even the Bell Labs think tank where they predicted the mobile phone thought that it would include a camera inside it. Everyone is struggling with the fact the tech isn't there yet in terms of what we see in our heads, but we're still interested in it enough to thrash it out in forums because every few iterations take us a meaningful step forwards in being able to achieve that vision. It's too rubbish to be happy with, but is improving too fast to ignore. It's actually the creative drive that powers much of these conversations. I don't want 4K60 10-bit with IBIS because I like letters and numbers and spending money - I want it because 4K 422 allows 1080 4444 (I output in 1080), 60p enables slow-motion which suits the aesthetic of the home videos I shoot because time seems to slow in the magical moments that I want to capture, 10-bit because I shoot outside in high DR with a log profile and I want to have the flexibility in post and get rich colours, and IBIS because shake distracts from the smooth magic I want to create and draws attention to the fact it's a film rather than a memory. Do I need all these things - no, do they support my creative vision - yes

Finally watched this, and...... I'm in trouble! I watched it blind like they said, and my picks fell into into three tiers, the top included the F3, the Epic, and the Alexa. The mid tier was the F65, C300, FS100, and the 7D. The last was the GH2 and the iPhone. I swear I watched it blind!!

oh man... that made me laugh!! ironically, I might actually be able to work that out. Find the internal mics and trace to their buffers, splice in a new cable, mount the socket somewhere, probably with a couple of resistors and diodes to prevent nasty things from happening and get the right levels... I've modded enough hifi equipment in my life

Thanks @mercer and @webrunner5 Posting your creativity online is always a bit nerve wracking, especially around people that do this stuff for a living! I've worked out that IBIS is the way forward for me. I thought fast primes were always big and heavy (I was extrapolating upwards from my Sigma 18-35 F1.8!) but after seeing a bunch of lovely MFT suitable lenses like the Hellios and the Voitlanders I now realise that they're not heavy enough to stabilise the camera the way a Fujinon Cine 18-55 would, and I couldn't carry that weight all day anyway. And because primes don't have IS, I need IBIS for hand-holding. I suspect there's a GH5 in my future, but we'll wait and see. So I picked up a few cheap m42 lenses to try with my GF3 and see how I go (Hellios 44M, Yashica Yashikor 28mm f2.8). Assuming I like them I'll work out if a G85 or GH5 or whatever is the right fit and fill in the gaps, the Voitlander 10.5mm and 17.5mm 0.95 lenses look absolutely stunning! If Panasonics FF camera is 8K then the price of a used GH5 will plummet and my lens budget will be huge!! ???

and...... where are the rest of the steps?

No external audio input..... bummer!

Shot and edited this today with the setup I pictured above. GF3 + 14mm F2.5 + Manfrotto pocket tripod. Shot in full auto with manual focus (because there are no settings available in video mode except focus mode, and autofocus is sloooow and hunts a bit), editing and colour in Resolve. The setup was a PITA really, the tripod either obscures the screen or the MF ring on the lens, which is focus by wire, the screen is fixed so good angles are almost blind, there's no focus assists during recording apart from a slider showing you where in the focus range you are (when you stop recording it shows a small 1:1 crop so if the focus distance isn't changing then it's ok) and it's so small it's hard to hold steady although the tripod actually helps as a bit of a handle. Not bad for a metal body camera that came with two lenses, memory card, battery, charger, UV filter, screen protector, air blower, and many other things for under $450 about a decade ago. Of course, we're now in 2018 and I'd rather a setup that was nicer to hold, use, and could be configured in any way at all It takes great photos though, and has full manual controls as well as RAW in stills mode. Pity about video mode.

That would be awesome. I generally just hold the camera a set distance from my head and then just say "back of the camera" "90 degrees" and "facing straight on" as I turn the camera around and that's enough to get an idea of what kind of rejection quality and handling noise there is. I'm at the complete opposite end of the spectrum on this camera - if I get one it would be as minimal a setup as possible. Potentially just the camera and one lens. Thanks!!

Could you possibly test the quality, directionality and if there's camera handling noise from the internal mics please? I've got a suspicion they've done something very clever with them..

@mercer Yes, absolutely. I'm not sure it's the lens that makes magic in that case, but it's still wonderful. That was one of the videos I analysed when I was trying to work out how people shoot travel videos without IS, and I did note the tripod-like shots, which work for the tranquil style and pace of the video. And so, I now extend my travel kit to the 14mm F2.5, Panny GF3 camera body, and Manfrotto tiny tripod! If I also use my 256Gb SD card, with the ~20Mbps codec it will give me enough space to shoot however much I want, so no pressure to download footage each day That may be one of the smallest ILC with tripod setups ever! @BTM_Pix I'm also one of these crazy film-makers that don't use every special effect in the book to try and jazz up dull footage with no storyline One of the reasons I chose Resolve was that it was a basic editor but advanced in colour processing and things like stabilisation. This is because my edits to date have only involved straight cuts and the odd dissolve (which I use as a scene change queue). However, colour being so important it's great to have the tools really available - the colour performance of the other "all in one" packages is laughable, and stabilisation and other things like that to compensate for my shooting style and lack of skill I don't own a drone either, and I'm not looking to buy one.