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Panasonic S1H review / hands-on - a true 6K full frame cinema camera
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Leaving aside the field of view and lens vignetting differences, the pixel per pixel is simply that, you are recording the individual pixel of the video frame directly with no subsampling involved. I don't know the specs but the 4k FF recording probably comes from a 6K/5,9K readout, so you get better quality/improved color. On the other side, since the pixel/pixel recording would have less processing involved, I assume will be a faster reading, so less rolling shutter. This is my assumption. -
Panasonic S1H review / hands-on - a true 6K full frame cinema camera
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Would it be Prores RAW or other raw format? -
Panasonic S1H review / hands-on - a true 6K full frame cinema camera
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Actually if you count the 200 euro vlog update, this camera is about 1200 euro more than the S1, but if offer a lot more. By the way, I just checked cvp store and there is an offer with the XLR audio module included for free -
Panasonic S1H review / hands-on - a true 6K full frame cinema camera
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Glad I held myself from getting a S1 yet. I am really interested in this camera. A major deciding factor for me would be those apertures on the sides for the cooling system. I hope it's an additional element added on the sealed chassis with a heatsink connecting the inside with the outside. Otherwise it would not be a camera to be used confidentially under bad weather or wind. But if you look at big boy brands like RED, Alexa, most of them have vans and people use them in any kind of environments, from the deserts down to -30 or so. For the Gb/money ratio, SD are the best option. If you need huge amount of Gb space, at a certain point it's cheaper to add an Atomos recorder and SSD drives. It's listed at 4000 euro or about 3300 without vat, body only -
Personally I would skip altogether the idea of a photo backpack for air travel. Really, you are not risking anything at all. Actually I don't like photo backpack much at all. I think their main use is to make you look professional to potential clients or customers. Just imagine the different ideas a client can have of you if he sees you carry your professional expensive cameras in a schoolboy backpack versus an expensive 300 euro photo backpack. Just use a good, light and comfortable trekking backpack and stuff if with your clothes for protection. You save weight and space. For example mountaineering gloves act perfectly as a lens case. You can fold a camera inside a T-shirt. A book at the bottom of the backpack act as a hard protection absorbing most part of potential shocks. A photo backpack will waste space and weight just by itself, and if you walk a lot you will feel the difference. Also, photo backpacks are like wearing a sign saying "hey I carry very expensive things". A worn out trekking backpack way will give the impression you are carrying your dirty clothes inside. Potential thieves will see you way before you can see them, especially in a foreign country. A photo backpack will make them concentrate their attention on you. I see you list Air France and Kenya Airways. I suppose you are going somewhere to Africa? If so, I don't know your travel plans, but if you want to travel locally with local transportation, keep in mind the buses will be quite full and cramped (people sitting in the corridor, 3 people sitting on 2 seats, you will almost never be the first in the line to board the bus/car so you will have to "fight" your way to the best seats, etc). And you don't want to leave your expensive gear in the common trunk. Your best option is to keep your photo bag on your laps when you are on the seat. Act as other spaces are not available. If there are spaces, good, if there are not, you are prepared. Keep in mind also the battery paranoia of this year. Lithium batteries are only for carry on baggage, not checked in. So, count on this added weght also. Considering air travel and the increasing paranoia on weight limitations, there are so many strategies to go with a heavier hand bag. My record was 28 chilos as hand luggage, totally undetected. You can: - have a friend/relative carry you to the airport. You leave your photo bag to your friend while you go to the checking desk with a decoy backpack on your back, small and light (just put something inside like some clothes and books to give it some mass). Then, after your check-in, you simply switch your decoy bag with your real bag (out of sight of the check-in desks...) and off you go - reduce your gear and for me the first one to go would be the photo backpack itself - carry a jacket folded on your arm and stuff the heavy things in the pockets (use the side facing your body). Even the sleaves of a jacket can act as a temporary case to hold stuff if you make a knot at the end. - you have a heavy hand luggage but you act innocently at the checking desk like you are carrying a 2 chilos hand bag. Considering the time spent at the checkin is like a couple of minutes, you could also ask something irrilevant to the operator to draw his attention from your bags to your useless question
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Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Agree on the first part, just compare a 2019 2000 euro camera and a 2015 20000 euro camera. Disagree on the second part, intellectual work, specialised handicrafts or arts should never follow a race to the bottom of prices -
Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Maybe I did not say it well. I was no saying the image has blown out areas. I was saying that this kind of situation is really stressing on sensor capabilities. You have reflections on polished or metal surfaces and recessed areas which create like a black hole. Basically it's like having several small Syper Cubes in the scene testing the upper and lower dynamic range of the cameras and both perform well. If we look at the highlight of the images posted in deezid's post both cameras also perform really well. It's a personal preference but I still prefer the S1 image, which is the camera I would (and quite probably will) get given the choice. What lenses where used for the shots? The same lens on both cameras so it can be a fair comparison? -
Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I I don't know if it's mainly for the full frame vs 2x crop factor, but I prefer the panasonic image. It's a personal opinion, but there is less "videoish" look to it. But I also like the way the BMPK 4K renders the window in the upper left corner and the black armchair in the background, where you have almost total blown out whites and total blacks. That armchair speaks a lot for the sensor capabilities. -
Canon removing 24p from new 4K mirrorless cameras - THE MEMES
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I am Italian but when I was an exchange student in the states, I was living in a rural area not far from Detroit and people warned me several times not to go to some places in Detroit. If I sum up all the advices, I would say that probably 25% of Detroit was a "no go" zone. On the contrary, in the place where I was staying people were going to the mall leaving their car unlocked. Some Brits told me the same about places in the Southern suburbs of London. What happened to your dad can happen in many places in the Western World, regardless of the country you are in. He was not a dictator. Andreotti was a major player in Italian politics since WWII and elected several times with the Democtaric Cristians, once one of the major parties. Anyway, if you want something funny about him, he had a hump on his back. He occupied the same seat in the parliament for so long that the seat assumed the shape of his hump. -
Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I suppose they do it the physical way to avoid or to at least render it a lot harder to hack the camera into having the vlog for free. Since the vlog update is only software and not hardware related, having a physical step in the process is probably the safest way for panasonic to protect its software. Softwares sooner or later can all be hacked, be it magic lantern, adobe package, capture one, windows, etc. -
For video I am too considering a full switch to Resolve, since I read so many positive feedback on it. For still images I already switched to Capture One and I really like it. Although I still use Photoshop for the Nik collection plugin (I like it for black and white conversion) or more specialized processing.
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Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I suppose the issue could hide in the combination of any of these: hdmi output, internal writing to card, card speed not fast enough. Regarding moire on the those tissues, isn't this simply related to the physic of optics (nyquist theory, sensor pixel pitch, ecc.)? What camera do not show it with that kind of cloth? -
I think they have probably chosen the EF mount because the patent is cheaper to use than the brand new RF one and the user base is a lot higher, with millions and millions of EF lenses already in the world. So it comes with a better cost/benefit ratio. Also, I did not do the math, but the difference in size from m43 to super35 sensor looks like the same one from 4k to 6k. Probably the fotosite dimension is the same, so it could be that both camera use the same sensor technology with the 6k sensor only cut bigger from the silicon sheet. So, this also translate into faster research and production times.
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Which means also a computer with more horsepower, more money to invest. Keeping the subject of this discussion, if you don't need AF, personally I would choose 3-5 Zeiss ZF/ZE primes, good lenses and some of them are quite cheap. Which is also my strategy so far, keep some good lenses and see the camera body as the first part to be changed/upgraded. In this case Nikon F and Leica R mounts are more universal. Considering Canon lenses, I don't know them well, but optics like the 100mm f2, the 135mm f2, the 400mm f5,6, the 300mm ones are well regarded. The 100mm f2 is also quite cheap on ebay.
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I am not a tech geek and I will probably commit many errors in this rough explanation, but basically Photoshop, Premiere (don't know about other programmes like DaVinci) in order to output 10 bit to a 10 bit monitor use the OpenCL interface and not the DirectX that many other softwares use. Common GPUs like the GTX or RTX series cannot work with the Adobe package in OpenCL and would only output in 8 bit. So even if you selected 10 bit in the software settings, on the monitor the image would still be 8 bit. To have a real 10 bit image you had to get a Quadro or FirePro graphic card, which more professional and not cheap. I will try to get more info on this, but if this works out as advertised, it will mean you can have 10 bit images with many GPUs commonly found in many computers. Or if you are building up your computer like I am doing now, it means that keeping the same level of performance, compared to a Quadro, you can get a cheaper card at half the cost. Or if you want to invest the same amount of money you can have a GPU with about double the Vram compared to a Quadro one of the same price.
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It looks like real 10 bit output with Photoshop or Premiere can be had also with non Quadro GPUs https://www.engadget.com/2019/07/29/nvidia-studio-laptops-10-bit-photoshop/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAGYGcJqCpsN6fZxkxecMFrPJtczQ9mncPXZHZmdgAkLeLW2YDeqtjR5Eea17GeC701xju_Af38TpovgAoGX-M0FnBSg22cXNQyiqPdpz0EvowgMS83xOCU4g4Q3JEp5HYiATA8iMNN_jlXmrchwknTOaCHkyvnbWIxx3ZyWmNBN5 https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/studio-driver/ Glad to know and share since I am building up my desktop!!
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Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I would pick a S1 (and I will), mainly for the VLOG, ergonomics and pixel shift. Since you already have a Gh5, you are already familiar with panasonic bodies and you can use on both camera the small audio interface with XLR inputs. Also, what about lenses? You say the Ursa is too big and heavy, so you want to go light. Are you going to keep your Gh5? If yes and you want to go with native mount lenses, you will have a lot of gear to carry around (and money to invest). If you go with adatped lenses, I would pick a S1 also in this case since you bypass the main criticism on this camera, which is AF in video but retain the other advantages versus the Z6. -
Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Probably because the sensor is considered by the general opinion as the very heart of a camera. And nobody wants to say that the core of his project is made by somebody else -
I like your motorized dolly!!!
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Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Probably it's the same thing you find in many other fields. For example I have a Ford Fiesta utility car. My father has a Volvo station wagon which costs new about 2-3 times as much. In my car for example, the doors have some kind of a shitty plastic handle which has an even shittier plastic pivot inside which on avarage breaks off about once every 3 years, making the door impossible to open. In my father's car the door is made only in metal and never broke. Now what's the difference in the manufacture cost of a plastic handle versus a metal handle? Probably 2 euro? Which in a 15000 euro car is absolutely nothing, but anyway in utility cars you find shitty plastic handles. -
Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Did you record in prores also? Prores + Vlog seems a winning combo -
Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Yes, I was considering this option too. Actually until 150 years ago, we would be part of the same country, the great and glorious Kingdom of Piedmont-Sardinia! -
Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
Merci! I am from Italy, on the other side of the border of Briançon. Here we have a similar "trade in" offer from Panasonic, but unfortunately the VLOG update is not free -
Panasonic S1 V-LOG -- New image quality king of the hill
1Ale82 replied to Andrew Reid's topic in Cameras
I see you list the price in euro. Where did you find such good deal? -
Once in China I met a Tibetan guy who told me the following: In China there are 4 categories of products: the best quality ones go to the government and the military, then there are the things that go to you Western people (he was talking to me), then the things that go to the Chinese and general export and finally the lowest quality things that go to Tibetans, Uygurs, Mongols