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I don't know which settings CVP used for that shot, but if they weren't using DR extended mode, the 25 ms 16:9 FF mode is not far off from the S5II's 22ms. Now I've said many times in the past that rolling shutter is the only part of the S5's image that I dislike, so I'm totally with you in absolute terms, and I personally am willing to pay more to get faster readout. So yeah I think for me personally, I'd be willing to pay more for a stacked sensor competitor, but many people are happy with the S5II or even A7IV, so all in all it's not terrible, if you view the extended DR as a specialty tool rather than the default. That's my opinion anyway.

I obviously have zero hands-on experience with Sony sensors, but if it's like other computing hardware, the sensor's interface might use a timing input pin. Driving the clock past a certain rate is unstable, like overclocking a CPU, leading to Sony's nominal max rates. So maybe it's the exact same sensor, but Panasonic has opted to use a different clock speed, possibly to reduce heat or because the limiting factor is the processor that the sensor data is fed into. Higher clock speeds means more heat, so that's a likely reason Panasonic doesn't drive the sensor to its max speed. Agreed, outside of extended DR mode, RS is similar to the S1/S5/S5II. Overheating after 40 min of nonstop recording in >4K seems reasonable for a hybrid. I mean obviously a dedicated video camera like the FX6 or C80 is better for... dedicated video. But as a jack of all trades, the S1RII hits a lot of high marks for both photo and video at a great value.

Those are not great RS values, that is quite unfortunate. I hope they have an option to do the 15ms and 7ms readouts in 24p, as extra options. And it looks like there is no timecode input, according to Newsshooter. So those are two things that a potential video-oriented model could still include and add value. Still, it looks like a great camera. I said it back when the GH7 came out, but the 32 bit float XLR module is a really excellent feature that, so far, is still unique to Panasonic. If they nail the rumored video app, it will almost certainly be a front runner for video in my book.

Haha in fairness, I liked the S9 as well, my main complaint also being lack of EVF.

I don't hate the design philosophy. I like minimalist controls. When I'm taking photos for fun, I really only touch a couple controls: ISO, focus magnification, and shutter. I use a manual lens, shoot raw, and almost always use auto-shutter speed. I'd love an ergonomic camera with just those controls. As much as I love having 100 many options for serious projects, navigating camera menus with 27 overlay options and 15 AF settings really just makes my mind go blank when I'm taking my camera on a hike. As with the fp and S9, I personally cannot live without an EVF--I'd rather they ditch the screen and only have an EVF instead! And the angular design, while pretty, looks rather terrible to hold.

Maybe evidence Panasonic is saving that for a more video-centric camera? From the specs so far it's not a particularly video centric camera, but if they've gone through the trouble of making a video-first iPhone app, then probably there's another camera on the way. Certainly the rumor sites seem to think so. And while we're on the subject, a proper video monitoring app is huge! That is one of my absolute favorite features of Z Cam. We'll see if Panasonic deliver. If I can have wireless, full HD monitoring with reasonable latency on 2-3 devices simultaneously, that's an immediate, massive plus. I'm really hoping for a BS1H successor now!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foveon_X3_sensor Tl;dr it captures RGB data at every photosite, instead of using a color filter array to capture RG or B at each photosite. Thus it does not require color interpolation, aka demosaicing, to reconstruct its color image. It's not as good as it sounds, however, because interpolating colors from the vertically stacked photosites is very complicated. The upside is less color moire, higher resolution per nominal pixel count, and arguably "better" color accuracy. The downside is that (with current technology), it has significantly lower SNR, sensitivity, and readout speeds.

So my gut is that it's not real, unless it's a very far-future "we have decided to begin development" kind of announcement, but just for fun... Sigma already makes a large number of APS-C lenses. Is it far fetched that they would make an APS-C foveon fp camera? Or maybe not foveon at all, with a sensor similar to the XH2S? This is pure speculation. It just seems odd for Sigma to make a competing L-mount announcement with Panasonic, unless it's a vastly different camera, or one that won't be available for a long time.

I'm definitely a "wait and see the official announcement" person, but some of these rumors are somewhat strange. 8K sensor with 6K60 raw? Maybe it only shoots raw in a crop, or maybe it also does 8k FF but not at 60 and the leaker doesn't mention that. Also curious whether "4k120 without crop" means it's line skipped, because that would be a shame. Although if it also includes 4k120 crop without skipping, that would be awesome. Anyway, it has my interest, so looking forward to the announcement!

Or a box camera with 1st party accessories to make it camcorder-like. Take a BS1H body, add a new side handle with full control, a single cable USB C monitor (or compatibility with Blackmagic's!), Panasonic's existing XLR module, and you've got a similar setup to a C400, ergonomically. All that's missing are ND's, which require a bigger body--not that I mind!--or some kind of eND adapter for EF/PL lenses. Of those, ND's are probably the only one that's particularly difficult to develop, if Panasonic thought they had the market for it.

Even with extremely good technology, there is still an artistry and subjectivity in image creation. No cinema camera aims for "color accuracy above all else." Arri wants their images to look Cinematic--and at this point in time, many cinematographers' taste has been developed specifically by Arri's colors. Sony might have a choice between spending millions on user testing, expert opinions, and fine tuning, OR they could save all that money and probably not take much of a sales hit. Fwiw, I have never liked Sony cameras in blind tests, however, I love Panasonic's S1 and S5 even compared to Arri. So I actually don't even believe that "expensive" cameras always look better. I also don't believe Sony is incapable of making more or less identical colors to the S5. Maybe they decided keeping the same pipeline is a better business investment, or their product managers prefer the Sony look out of pride, or different taste--or maybe I'm simply not their target audience.

I'll put my conspiracy hat on for a moment. Maybe BM knows about imminent competition, and want to get a few more sales out before that happens?

I saw that! What a deal--priced under the C400 even. I wouldn't be surprised if the kits come down in price to match.

Well there are certainly paths to limit AI's improvement, such as nuclear war or catastrophic asteroid impact. And eventually we will run out of resources, but a lot of poor people will die of hunger before resource limits affect AI. I don't even think legal limits will have any long term affect either. Sure if the US bans AI development and stops Google, OpenAI, etc, there will be setbacks. But other companies in other countries will step up. If you look at all of human history, technology has always improved, and always improved at an increasing rate. I don't think there is much reason to believe that the trend will suddenly stop.

So are you saying that AI generated video will never become indistinguishable from real video? Its still obvious in most cases right now, my point as that it will become better. CGI is difficult to keep improving because it's largely a manual process. Some CG artists are very good, but many are not. It took decades for us to go from moving a cube across a screen to the very best CGI today, which takes enormous effort from large teams of extremely experienced and skilled people. AI generated video has gone from nothing to this ad in what, two years? And how many people were involved? And the same AI model will continue improving, and never retire. Even without improvements to the methods of training or reinforcement learning, imagine the output when it has 10x or 100x the training data.