Hi!
Many thanks for all the replies, support and questions, I wasn't expecting all this thanks. Ill try to explain my position/choises in more detail: Im a novice in filming and photography, art student, Ive tried some different cameras, I have a slightly defect canon 350 (apsc from 2006ish), and got to use a gh4 for my last project. Sometimes I need to take photos for documentation, and for fun, but I don't think I need to buy a new, or really good camera for that, I can borrow etc, but it would be more convenient. Anyhow Id like to get something versatile with with which I could get decent video without terrible moire straight out of the camera aswell as Im intrigued with being able to shoot raw and get the extra when doing something "special" or more worth the computer-hours. I will probably film quite different things, in low light, long/short distance, narrative story, nature shots, interviews, city etc but not really sports, birds or any unplanned action. Also Id prefer to use full frame to try it out, to have access to its advantages and it kinda feels "closer to the craft" somehow (but I guess some will disagree and maybe Im being kind of conservative). When photoing I prefer a mirror-viewfinder, but since I'm mostly going to film maybe its not worth putting emphasis on this, or maybe its good for getting good focus with a manual lens before a static film shot.
With the 5dii I'm a little of concerned the 12min video limit, it doesn't seem to go away with ML, or do you know this? (but probably I will only shoot shorter clips anyway).
Also I enjoy the idea of getting something used and tweakable to get good quality for less. I don't mind putting some extra time in putting together a nice kit and nice settings (both with the camera and with video editing), but then Id like to end up with something that can work pretty well kind of point and shoot, so if theres to much continuous hassle then it might be more worth it with something more simple, but I'm optimistic.
Do you think theres a big difference between the 5dii and 5diii regarding build quality? I guess the 5dii won't be very resellable in a few years. Or is there no need to get into this too much just having an eye on the shutter count?
For lenses I was thinking maybe two prime lenses (nikkor?) and maybe one af regular cheap zoom (like tamron), maybe its more worth it with all old primes or some used af prime, Id be very thankful for any input on this as well, but it kind of seems like the next step.