newfoundmass

I don't think they have released a follow up to the DVX200 yet because the market it appeals to (ENG) moves a lot slower. A lot of local network affiliates are using the same cameras they got when they changed over to HD. They ride their equipment until the wheels fall off. The DVX200 also still exceeds the needs of a lot of ENG shooters, so it's not really out of date. The local CBS affiliate bought DVX200's and my buddy Michael loves it.

The only real difference I see between my G85 and GX85 is the IBIS, the G85's is better I assume because of the larger body and weight. Otherwise they're virtually identical. Best $250 I've spent!

I just got a GX85 for $250! You can find deals out there! I dunno, I'd just spend the extra money it'll cost you since you'd be getting 80% or so of what you have in a GH5. G6 is good but it's just hard to justify getting it in 2020. Just looking at eBay the G6 and GX85 prices are nearly identical. $288 is not bad at all. https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F402036976231

Do you need a mic input? Cause the GX85 (GX80 overseas) is a KILLER camera but it lacks a mic input. I got it as my c-cam for multicamera shoots. Combined with the 35-100mm f/2.8 it blows my mind. You could always attach a Zoom H1 or something for better audio.

Thought this was a good comparison of the camera vs S1H.

I wish I'd picked one up when they were like $250 new. I didn't know they still even sold it.

I just sold mine. It's a great lens but I think I'm done with adapting modem zooms to my M43 cameras. They're just too heavy. I wish they'd released a similar lens for the M43 system. I appreciate what Panasonic did with the 10-25mm f1.7 but that price tag is just too hefty for me. I think some of the e-mount lenses have been impressive. Maybe not exactly on the same level but very close. Tamron especially has released some excellent lenses.

? I wish @Andrew Reid had reviewed it. It didn't get nearly enough attention and still is an excellent camera. I do hope they were serious about releasing a follow up. They really thought outside the box with the LS300 and supported it with updates/features long after most companies do. Of the "big companies" only Panasonic has done that

No I know, but I recently saw a handle that has a battery built into it being used for other cameras and I really appreciate the creativity. The grip though is like $300.

Canon is king when it comes to documentary and corporate work. For those that got their start with Canon's DSLR cameras it's a natural progression. I see a lot of them for that type of work. The higher end cinema stuff though, I think they'll always be battling up hill. They don't really offer much that the other cameras listed can't do. I just don't think people at that level think of Canon when time comes to decide what to shoot on.

I really appreciate the creativity we're seeing. First the battery side handle, now this. The only thing I don't appreciate? The prices!

I don't think he meant to be condescending. Action cameras have their uses but outside of their incredible stabilization GoPro has done little to move forward. Honestly if I needed an action camera for anything I'd just get one of the cheaper knock offs before paying the GoPro premium. That's assuming I couldn't just use one of my Panasonic cameras to accomplish what I'd use an action camera for. They also lose their value faster than pretty much any other camera out there. I just can't see investing in one unless you really need it.

Sony I think is strongest with YouTubers that can't live without AF and think they need shallow depth of field while standing in front of their "sets" that all look the same. I don't think this site attracts those types. The Sony shooters here I've found to be pretty competent videographers/filmmakers. Sony's offerings provide the YouTube crowd good bang for their buck and quick results right out of the box. They're not too concerned with a lot of the things we care about. They do minimal, if any color grading, etc.

I'd be very interested if Olympus added unlimited recording now that they have better AF! For me unlimited recording is a deal breaker, more so than 10 bit and such.

I'm rocking the GH5, the G85 and the GX85 for my multicamera shoots these days. My original plan was to sell the G85 and buy a second GH5 but then I got the GX85 for a steal used and decided to also get the 35-100mm f/2.8 when I found it in pristine condition for an absolute bargain. I still use my JVC LS300 too, though I'm considering selling it. It's hard to part with, as I really do love it, but I also feel bad not putting it to use more. I instinctively just grab my Panasonic kit most of the time. I think a lot of people have gotten caught up on full frame, which I understand, but I still love M43 and see so much more upside in the system than full frame. I want a small, compact kit. It's literally what I dreamed of way back when. If you told me 10 years ago that I'd be able to fit my entire multicamera kit in one small Pelican case AND get the quality that I'm able to get, I don't know that I'd have believed you. Using the GX85 has really reignited my love for the system and reminded me of the possibilities. It's so tiny and lightweight! But the image! It's lovely! And slap that 35-100mm on there! It's insane! I won't hold my breath, but if they could pack all the features of a GH5 into a small body like that? Gimme!

I'm not trying to downplay his accomplishments or act like he doesn't work hard, cause he obviously does, but moving to LA isn't cheap. I have friends that live in LA with 3 roommates and they still end up paying around $1200 a month in rent. That's about what you'd pay in Vermont for a 3 bedroom house! ? It's just been my experience that people that move to these bigger cities generally come from wealthier families that can help support them until they get on their feet. Nothing wrong with that, but it does explain why they're in a more advantageous position than other content creators.

I think mega rich was a figure of speech on Andrew's part. But still a lot of YouTubers obviously come from some wealth, especially those that are millenials that are set up in major cities straight out of high school / college. It costs a lot to get set up in Los Angeles or New York; if it didn't a lot of us would do it! It's not an attack on them, but that they're the top names on YouTube when it comes to this stuff, it kinda overshadows the rest of those channels trying to put out helpful / good content. Like I genuinely feel bad when I stumble across a channel of someone that is putting out good content and only gets a couple dozen hits. When YouTube never bothers to widely promote them a lot get discouraged and stop uploading or they'll start copying what others are doing because it's apparently what YouTube wants out of creators. Then all the sudden I'm watching people that used to put informative stuff out now riding boosted boards, drinking coffee and doing things I don't care about. ?

I phrased what I was trying to say incorrectly. What I meant to say is that the Leica is still pretty sharp wide open, while the Voigtlander needs to be stopped down because the f0.95 isn't very useful and is more of a gimmick. The Leica wide open at f1.4 is sharper than the Voigtlander is at f1.4.

The Leica is sharper wide open while the Voigtlander is pretty useless at f/0.95 because of how soft it is. Still the Voigtlander will match your other lens so I'd say probably go that route.

I think it's a couple of things, possibly a combination of them: A lot of YouTubers come from money. Some come from wealthy families, others had/have good paying jobs that allow them to indulge in an expensive hobby, etc. Even if they have gotten to the point where they're self sustainable off of YouTube revenue and freelance work, it's likely they started from an advantageous position to begin with. Living in NYC or Los Angeles isn't cheap, you need a lot of money just to get set up there. I also think the ease in which you can get credit to buy stuff probably has a lot to do with it. Literally every time I order something off of Amazon, eBay, B & H, etc. I get credit offers. Wouldn't shock me to find out a lot of YouTubers are going into debt. Then there's the freebies/sponsored content. A lot of them have built up relationships with B & H so they'll get loaners, which I don't really object to and prefer over them getting freebies. But a lot of them just get stuff sent to them. I remember Tom Antos did a video where he unboxed like 30+ things he'd been sent and had been sitting on that he never bothered to review. No clue what he did with all of it, probably sold it? But it really opened my eyes to how freely all this equipment gets sent out and is viewed by the companies as the cost of doing business. Then of course you've got your Canon, Sony, etc. sending people review copies, flying people out, etc. Potato Jet I think probably comes from a well to do family, because even though I know he's a working professional it's very hard for me to believe that he can afford everything he has while living in Los Angeles, even with a profitable YouTube career and his freelance work. His house alone has to cost half a million or more! But in general I feel like he's honest, and he gives away most of the stuff he reviews. Once a YouTuber starts to feel like they're compromised I start to gravitate away from them and their content. It's why I enjoy smaller channels (see my thread dedicated to them ?) because they're not big enough to be getting stuff from companies and instead use/review things they've spent their money on. In general they're a lot less biased. Yeah that's another thing he has to his benefit by living in LA. The availability of equipment, whether it's from rentals or friends, is on a completely different level. He seems like a very kind person so I don't wanna come off as too critical. There aren't a lot of people that'll go out and buy equipment for their friend that's starting a YouTube channel, and then give that same friend his bike as a gift.

Does it shoot raw?

Agreed. It's just hard to go back to a camcorder

I took the chance... The GX85 has no recording limit in 4K and I filled up a 256GB card without overheating. It was nearly 6 hours continuous recording! ? What a bargain! Might be the best bargain out there today bought used!

Yeah I know the European one has the limit. I'm in the US though.

This might have been covered in one of the posts in this thread but... I'm getting conflicting info on whether the Gx85 has unlimited recording or not. I'm in need of a C cam and I figured it'd fit in nicely with my GH5 and G85, especially given the price, but if it has the recording limit its not good for my work. I know the GX80 has the limit, and I know that the B & H specs say it has the 30 minute limit, but some videos and forum posts I've read say it doesn't. ????