newfoundmass

Have they fixed multicam editing yet?

I shoot pro wrestling with the GH5 and while there is some RS no one really notices it. It doesn't bother me at all. I think I'd rip my hair out though if I was shooting with a Sony camera!

Correct. M43 cameras with lenses weigh significantly less than full frame cameras with lenses. If I recall some full frame lenses alone weigh more than a GH5 with the 12-35mm f 2.8. You really can't compare the two.

I've found the latest firmware on the GH5 to have usable auto focus when it's necessary to use it. I think Panasonic has decided to bet on DfD. I think that's a mistake, but I'm guessing they have faith that they can get it to be as good as the competition. I'm skeptical, even with the improvements we've seen. Still I think the entire "Panasonic's auto focus is awful" is more people repeating over and over what others have been saying, as opposed to how good it currently is.

That has nothing to do with the state of M43. We're 2 years from the launch of the GH5, a M43 camera that is one of the most critically acclaimed and financially successful cameras from that period. The GH6, as long as it continues to innovate, will likely be as successful. There is no evidence that the GH series will be taking a backseat to the S series. It'd make no sense for it to. For whatever reason Olympus decided to release an old camera in a larger body, with hardly any new features and threw a $3000 price tag on it. It's a bummer, because it's another bad sign for Olympus, but I don't see how you can associate it with the health of M43.

It's a tool that is more than capable of doing most jobs, and there are things about it that are good, but there is just too much missing for me to decide that this is the next camera and system to invest in. The FF obsession is at a fever pitch, but honestly FF is pretty low on my "needs/wants" list. I look towards Panasonic because of their lead in innovation and functionality more than anything. Obviously there are going to be cameras that are geared more towards video features, and the S1 isn't one of them out of the box. Still, they're going through the same motions with the S1 that they did with the GH series, giving Griffin Hammond the camera and having him do a documentary short. I guess it kinda irks me that they're trying to appeal to people like me with a camera that clearly wasn't made with me in mind, and where they're asking me to spend more money on an "upgrade" for video features that should come with the camera to begin with. The entire "paid upgrade" stuff also really makes me uncomfortable, I really hope that's not the direction things are going in. Make a camera for people like me and sell it. Don't try to get me to buy in on a camera that's clearly not geared towards users like me, even with the "video upgrade." Your loyal video users deserve better, Panasonic.

Gonna be honest: this feels rushed and is terribly underwhelming. There's really nothing here that makes me want to "upgrade" from the GH5, and in fact I feel like it'd be a downgrade. Maybe in 3-5 years, when there are more lenses, etc. but for now it's a hard pass. The pricing of everything is just way too much, too. The paid update, too, for extra video features really annoys me. I thought it was always shady to do with V-log but this takes it to another level. That's not the direction camera makers should be going towards.

YouTube Puerto Rico has very lovely places, but the Puerto Rico you describe is very different than the Puerto Rico most Puerto Ricans live in. Things are still very bad after the hurricane, but it wasn't paradise before the hurricane either. Most of my friends there live very difficult lives right now on the island, which shouldn't be the case given they're American citizens living in an American territory.

Puerto Rico is still in such a bad place after the hurricane, and even before that the economy was in a pretty awful state. I can see why it could be attractive though. The cost of living is comparatively low compared to the rest of the US. If they're living off of ad revenue it'll go a lot longer there than it would in most states. The low cost of living has been a big reason why Asia has seen significant numbers of westerners moving there. Camera Conspiracies on YouTube has lived in a half dozen apartments while living in Thailand, some were nicer than others but all were under $500 a month even though they were fully furnished. I could see similar benefits to moving to Puerto Rico. Me, I've lived in Vermont pretty much my whole life. Used to dream of getting out as soon as possible, but it's home. Sure, it gets freezing cold. And yeah, the two snow storms in the last 2 weeks dumping 2 feet of snow total is a bit much, even for me, but I still love the place. Prefer it greatly to the 2 months I lived in Austin, TX last year at the height of the bombings. Wasn't too keen on living about 5 miles away film one of the bombings.

$350 isn't really overpriced for the pocket. That's a pretty competitive price, honestly. I've debated getting one so I can have a quality camera on me at all times that's not my phone but I'm holding off because I don't like the results people are getting while walking, even when they do the Ninja step.

I think you're just taking something said in jest too seriously! It happens!

Used a GX85 with my G85 on Saturday while helping a friend on a project. Will ask him to share some of the footage with me to share on here, but with this thread in mind I did a bit of testing and yeah, the G85 has superior IBIS imo and given the GX85 was rigged up and might've even weighed more than the G85, I don't think the difference was in the body. I used the 12-35 on both cameras. GX85 footage was fine, but had more micro jitters I felt. It's a nice little camera though; I kinda want to get one because i appreciate the form factor but I don't really need it, I've got enough cameras ?

From the sounds of it they're focusing on the photography market with video taking a backseat. I think there will be enough to get people's attention but I'm not expecting a GH5 like jump forward in technology. We might find out there are limits to full frame that even Panasonic can't get around.

The speedbooster on the GH5 and GH5S can do incredible things. Caleb Pike did some videos about it with the GH5S. It's pretty wild.

I think this is always a risk, however I found it liberating to make a choice and invest in it. Has there been cameras that have come along and piqued my interest. Absolutely! But when I weigh all the options I find overall I'm very satisfied with what I have, and have become better at my job. The GH5 has been a tool that can be used successfully in every situation I've thrown at it, from your standard corporate work to the fast paced action of pro wrestling. That versatility is priceless. Just thinking about it I cringe at the thought of using Sony mirrorless for pro wrestling, with all the rolling shutter! ?

It's a camera that will still be a relevant and powerful tool 5 years from now. Until 8K becomes the standard you've pretty much got everything you need. They're absolute work horses. Better auto focus would be welcomed obviously but I find it to be adequate, and I really don't care about sensor sizes given the results I'm able to get. People have become too obsessed with sensor size; I've never had a client ask about sensor size, just resolution, and they've been blown away by the 4K and 1080p the GH5 provides.

The rolling shutter on all of those Sony cameras are awful, ha ha. It didn't really improve until the A7iii. Sony mirrorless cameras were / are pretty much useless for the bulk of my work because of the rolling shutter, so I wouldn't say you're a hater since that's a valid criticism. But I also wouldn't say their sensors are terrible. They just aren't good for my kind of work (fast moving objects and people.) I'm sure in more controlled situations they're great!

I don't think that's the case at all. $2000 for the GH5 two years ago was a steal. And frankly it still is able to do stuff all in one package that no other camera can do on the market in its price range. It's really not fair to compare the A7iii to the GH5 because it can't compete with all of the GH5's features. The A7iii is a great camera but it lacks so many features of the GH5 and isn't a true alternative. If you're only going by sensor size you're missing the bigger point. The A7iii was/is a great value, but it doesn't have all of the film making features that the GH5 and no matter how big of a sensor you have, that's not gonna make up for missing them.

The A6300 sensor was very good, though the overall package I thought wasn't great. It had the same flaws most of those Sony cams had / have. But it had very good 4K from what I recall after using it once or twice when it came out. It'd have done better if the A6500 hadn't come right out almost immediately. It was kinda comical how many used A6300s hit the used market so quickly.

The GH5's AF has really, really improved since the last firmware. Even Sony / Canon users have taken note: A big part of working with the G85's auto focus is learning how it acts, since it's not perfect. Once you kinda figure it out you get better results. You really though don't even need to do that for most vlogging work. Set it up, connect your phone, touch your face to focus and you're really good to go. I don't know if vloggers just don't understand how easy it is with the phone app, given how crappy the Sony phone apps are, but I'm able to do this during shoots with the Panasonic app while across the room working on something else.

I think for most blogging use the G85's auto focus is more than adequate, though I don't use it for that purpose. I've used it in far more difficult situations than almost any vlogger would and I've been satisfied.

I think Fuji, out of everyone, might be the next leader of innovation given how quickly they've caught up. They're so close to hitting a home run with their video offerings. I'm also encouraged that it's Nikon, of all the companies, that has worked with Atomos to unlock RAW. That's a huge development.

I think they're going to get a lot of flack for positioning their first full frame cameras as being directed towards photographers. Though I think this will change with time, I do wonder if there are tech limitations preventing them from focusing more on video. I'm quite happy with the GH5 and think Panasonic will continue to innovate as they have for the last couple of years. I think the sensor size is what has made that possible. The problem Panasonic will have is if / when the competitors can close the gap with their full frame capabilities. Take away Panasonic's advantage there and they're in a very bad position. Those 2 year old GH5 specs would've looked a lot less incredible if Sony or someone had been able to match them within a year. Instead though what we have is an inedible camera that's 2 years old and is still able to do a lot their competitors haven't been able to do and is arguably still the best camera on the market for its price range.

These cameras baffle me because cameras like the G85, which is going to be 3 years old, is by far a better "bang for your buck" camera for vlogging and an excellent b-cam for the GH5. Granted I suppose if you're already in the Sony ecosystem you're less likely to pick up a Panasonic MFT camera, but still, it's amazing how uninspired Sony has been when it comes to their APSC line compared to Panasonic and their MFT lines that have really pushed boundaries. Heck the G85 will be 3 years old this year and still does a lot of things better than new cameras. As time passes, and more offerings are made, my fondness for the little G85 grows because of how much it can do.

While I generally agree, there are many circumstances where doing this is inconvenient.