newfoundmass

I'm keeping a very close eye on Fuji. The X-T3 isn't enough, but they're definitely on the right track. Was really impressed by the DPReview video, but that battery life and lack of the pro video features kinda disqualifes it for me. But the picture and colors ?

Can't speak for him, obviously, but the micro actually sounds significantly better than the Go for less money, and the Go is kinda flimsy. The Go still has decent sound but there are much better options for less at this point.

I'm not saying people are wrong to feel underwhelmed, but it's pretty wild that Canon released a $2300 camera with C-Log and 10 bit 4:2:2 out via HDMI to such negative response. I'm not blown away, and it's not nearly enough to intrigue me into seriously considering this camera, but that was more than I was expecting. I still think it will put a dent into Sony and make them feel the heat by lessening the number of people that will switch from Canon to Sony. Not that they deserve it, as it's clearly a stop gap camera, but I think it'll serve what Canon set out for it to do.

Most consumers don't understand the difference been APS-C and Full Frame either.

The exotic locations and the fact that the press events always have all the press hooting, hollering, and clapping like they're fans always makes me feel uncomfortable.

No 120p in fhd is blah. Some good and some bad here, so you know it's a Canon!

I think this camera is enough to hurt Sony, given the similar price point and giving the camera just enough pro video features. For a lot of people the C-Log and focus features will be enough to make them go with this over, say, a A7iii. Sony is feeling the heat I bet.

Agreed. In many respects they seem pretty equal based on specs and the info we have. Neither are enough for me to buy at this point, especially with Panasonic announcing a full frame camera and the pending A7Siii.

Link?

Hard to really tell on YouTube. I feel like it lacks the character of the P4K's image, looks a lot more video-ish, but the P4K I doubt is capable of working in those conditions like that. Price confirmed.

Lol, it must be nice to be able to use the camera like that!

I'm guessing Jordan is correct, as Caleb seemed to be basing his info on what he was told while Jordan seems to be tweeting info as he is using the camera. Caleb went live and said that almost immediately after the presser ended, so I don't think he even had the camera for very long.

That's an interesting question. My gut says probably not until they have more lenses, even with the adapters.

Now Jordan Drake is saying there's a huge crop in 4K. Confirmed

They didn't specify but I believe so Very strange they didn't announce a price. Overall nothing earth shattering, but the EF adaptability sounds promising, with one of the adapters even adding the ability to change iso/etc via the lens itself. 10 bit 4:2:2 via HDMI is nice, as if C-Log. No info on crop, etc. Guessing that info will come out in a bit once everyone gets to shoot with it and ask questions. They stressed very hard that this is an addition to the EOS system, not a replacement, which was also kinda weird. Updated: Caleb Pike says NO CROP in 4k when shooting FF

The most interesting thing so far is the mount, and lenses. Being able to adjust the ISO with your lens is pretty awesome. 10 bit 4:2:2 via HDMI out, too, but only 4K 30p.

Caleb Pike is streaming the event

The problem with going with the EF mount is that it'd be positive short term but a negative long term. Canon will continue with DSLRs for as long as possible, and there will be a ton of old lenses to use, but the time will come when the EF mount will become obsolete as mirrorless takes over for Canon. Do you really want your entrance into the full frame game to be based on a mount that will likely decline greatly over the next 10 years? It kind of has to be a new mount. One thing that they could possibly do, which could be interesting, it's bring VSM as seen on the LS300 to the camera, allowing the use of m43, APS-C and pretty much every other type of lense to be used with an adapter without vignetting. This is an option, honestly, that I'm surprised more camera makers haven't done. Being able to punch in exactly what sensor size your lens covers is such a powerful feature imo.

I'm curious, what kind of work do you do that you refuse to use a camera that doesn't have "good" auto focus? I'm not even using the argument that "real pros use manual focus" either, because that's silly too, but to put such weight behind auto focus is so weird to me. It does need to be improved, without a doubt, but to completely discount a camera because it's AF is not as good as Sony or Canon is wild. For me IQ is the most important, especially given how much vintage glass I use. I've even been fine with using the GH5 for multicam sporting events. I don't mean to pick on you or single you out, I just see you constantly talking about AF, is all.

The stupid thing about cannibalizing their pro video line is that, even if they put almost every feature into a smaller mirrorless camera, a large segment of that pro line market will still buy the cinema cameras anyway. I can't tell you how many people I know that own C200's or whatever that don't really do anything with it that they couldn't also do with the 1D X or the 5D mk IV (assuming they insist on staying in the Canon family.) They own them as much for the "prestige" or credibility as much as the functionality. It's about ego and image, not practicality and quality for a lot of people. It's like projects I've helped on where they insisted on renting a RED camera and lenses, spending as much on that as they would've spent on buying a GH5, Sony A7Sii or comparable camera that they could've used on their next project. Tons of indie films that never make money and hardly get seen do this, and for no reason. I'm guilty of it myself, on a smaller scale. I love my LS300 but I don't really need it anymore since I've got a GH5 and G85. However on certain projects I bring it when I have a feeling that the client will look poorly on me using what looks like normal cameras instead of a more professional looking one. And while the LS300 doesn't have the greatest build quality, once you rig it up with monitors and stuff it looks a lot more professional than my GH5 set up.

The idea that m43's death is imminent or that it doesn't have a place is silly. For video shooters it will only happen once these full frame cameras can match the features and capabilities of them. The GH5 was released a year and a half ago and yet there is no camera in the same league, full frame or otherwise, that matches its features. It's likely that within the next year or so information on the GH6 will begin to trickle out and the capabilities and specs will again be ahead of the competition. People will be blown away, but within a year or so, after Sony releases something that comes close but doesn't quite achieve the same capabilities, people will again start saying that m43 is dying. It'll happen eventually, but quit rushing to predict its demise. Panasonic getting into the FF game is great, but I don't see it putting an end to the GH line.

I've honestly used more budget friendly lavs for my own work, but for other higher end gigs I've had a lot of experience with the Sony ECM-55B and have been really impressed with it. My only complaint is the larger than normal capsule, but it has really good sound and has a good price to quality ratio.

I'd definitely exchange it or send it in for repair. You should be getting much better stabilization than what you're describing right out the box without even having to fine tune the settings (though that's a good idea to do once you get used to it.) The only time I've gotten jitters, or seen footage like that, was while running too fast / seeing reviewers run too fast and experiencing it.

That's simply not true. I'm specifically referring to people that have switched in the last couple of years; Sony's full frame mirrorless cameras were available at the time and they still went with m43. It's not simply how much the bodies weigh but how much the lenses weigh. Take the Sony 70-200mm. It weighs over 1480 grams! The Panasonic equivalent is 357 grams. The closest Olympus equivalent is 760 grams. You can carry an entire set of Panasonic lenses and it'd weigh less than that one Sony lens. That's not an insignificant difference.

Search YouTube. There are quite a few photographers that have released videos explaining why they left Canon/Nikon for m43 cameras. While the GH5 has appealed more to video shooters, it is used by photographers.