leslie

thanks for sharing, certainly some food for thought there.

careful buddy, if we all learn how to solder, you might out of a job. 😲 Still its an outstanding offer for you to extend towards us. Could this be applicable to say a zoom h2n which already has an accessory pack that contains a remote ? You can already see where i'm heading with this and how would that tie in with your pcb controller for the p4k or would this be more stand alone ?

your talking about the 50mm 1.2L piqued my interest i remember a guy using a fd 50mm 1.2L for wedding photos he uses the flare to surround the couple, looks quite nice to me i had to check and it seems like the 50mm 1.2L is the way to go. He also likes the 50mm Summilux ASPH which is well out of my price range. I may well have come up with another reason for the a low light beast going to do some tests tomorrow. If i can get close to what i want to do i'll have two reasons to start saving by the way whats the filter size on the 50mm 12L ?... thanks https://www.slrlounge.com/real-lens-flare-right-way/

I have considered your reply for awhile now and i dont consider my comment as overly sexist, merely more of a play on the facts. If it had of been a bloke standing there behind the camera i would have come up with another comment regardless. If you want to see sexism at work i suggest you go immerse yourself, in the girls on film thread. Now there a chance to have a real argument against sexism.

thanks to you and emanuel, for the info you guys provide. I'm not that vigilant on staying up to date with the pk4. Hardly ever go to the bm website, not because they have jerked my chain or anything, but i just seem to lack the interest in general. In the comments on the details page when you go to get the update file i did however ask them to investigate a means of retrofitting a flippy screen to a p4k, i'd pay another $200 to have a flippy screen as then, for me the p4k would be killer. How far that request makes it up the chain of command is anyone's guess. by the way i notice a certain loss of enthusiasm down here in the p4k thread. Has the reign of the mighty p4k thread come to an end ? 😎 Do we now all migrate down to the eos r5 thread and worship there for awhile or is there life after p4k ?😉

i'm intrigued, why a cheap benro what sort of complex moves are you talking about? do they have a nice cheap fluid head ? actually i'll start a new thread so i dont hijack this thread any further if you feel inclined please explain your motivations there

i doubt it. it may limit your angle of attack in the vertical orientation however 😉 plus i have to wonder what other spectators are thinking once an operator starts on a few hip swinging motions and a thrust or two forward perhaps 😎 on a more serious note. i wonder how that would work if you tried walking with it ? would footage be better or worse if movement besides panning or tilting was involved. considering at this point if it is discontinued, it cant of been a runaway success. upon further thinking would you be better off with two legs of a tripod as opposed to a single monopod leg. Two point of contact would help limit sway , would it not ? edit : there is a used one on ebay the owner has this to say about it Rollei Rolleiflex Hipjib tool to turn your tripod into a jib. Condition is Used. Shipped with USPS Priority Mail. This is a weird tool, but useful in a pinch. Basically turns any tripod into a jib. This one is from the kickstarter.

Not sure if you have considered it before or not. why not produce a vblog. You write and shoot/direct and stick some local "charismatic" dude out the front. You by your own admission have a bit of kit, most of us would enjoy seeing said kit used and the look you get from it. It might open a few avenues but at the same time probably truckloads of work. Since you have 30 000 forum members you already have a captive audience, its not like you would have to blog your heart out. Depending on your workload something once a month ? just some thoughts i know it seems like, i have boundless enthusiasm infused with a large dollop of naivety, reply as you see fit

i hope thats a joke, otherwise kaylee is probably lining you up with baseball bat, as we speak and i cant say i really blame her. Maybe you should put an emoji at the end, let people know it was an attempt at a joke 🙄

My singular experience with the p4k has been positive so far, i see no reason why that will change. I assume its a modern camera, made in a modern factory with Modern techniques. After pre ordering then waiting 4-5 months i am pretty confident it took about 90 seconds to unbox which might be some kind of record. I tossed the shrink wrap but still have the box and everything else. Cant say that the box or packaging is any better or worse than any other camera i have bought japanese or not. The main thing you can derive from all of this, is mine arrived with out blemish. i should clarify that my initial statement probably came across as a little truncated. Your right i have no exp with prior bmd cameras. Yes you have all the camera experience and then some. I just picked up my p4k with the speedbooster and tokina 28-70 the support rails and tripod clamp still attached. I literally held it by the lens only and gave it a good shake nothing rattled, squeaked or moved. its solidly constructed. i have helped set up and run, quarter of a million dollars cnc stone and glass machines, yes their definitely not cameras. one point i'll reiterate is, machines need to be setup and tested before someone can sign off and say its good to go. The principle is applicable to all machines no matter what the size. The other thing i would add is i can run a cnc stone machine with tolerances of 0.1mm all day long. On a good day i can run it at 0.05mm thats stone. I would expect modern cnc injection molding machines and cnc milling machines to match or exceed those tolerances. What all that leads to is the p4k may not be waterproof, however it is as tight as a drum, well my copy is anyway. I have 3 cameras, two different brands made in japan and i agree with you, the japanese do seem to produce a nice product. I actually prefer to buy my second hand lenses from japan, the lenses are as described, probably cleaner than a hospital room, have a hand written note and sometimes a little origami thing. Thats a level of service you don't get anywhere else. getting a little late here. Glad i could make you laugh earlier, thanks for the back story some detail is always good. catch you tomorrow for round two

seriously guys, this is like a conspiracy theory sequel, you guys just need to sign julia and mel 😉 from the photos, seems like someone got a lemon and understandably h'e'd be upset. Most of us would be upset too. Sadly life is not a box of chocolates, not all the time anyway. This is precisely why i bought new, so that i would be covered under warranty, that way, i was covered if anything did go pear shaped. Really i cant say how many units bm have shipped around the world however i'd expect a very small percentage to have issues whether thats manufacturing, transit or something else. but the same could be said for any company. I think the facts bear this out we haven't seem a mass recall of p4k's or p6k's. Certainly some people for whatever unexplicable reason got a defective unit. Sadly in this day and age after about 5 minutes to resolve the issue ( no pun intended ) its all dumped on the internet for the consumption of the whole world. Which seems like to me at least more of an attempt to vilify rather than resolve an issue. I cant see how airing dirty laundry in the forum is productive at any level, bmd is not the empire striking back 🙄 it seems extremely optimistic that someone would buy a new model of camera then take it on a professional shoot days later. Nobody buys a rocket, lights that thing off and expects it to make it to the moon and back the first time 🙄 any piece of equipment needs a suitable time of testing and proving, regardless of what it does. If your doing something special with something brand new and said equipment fails, well i think you only have your self to blame. I'm all for whistle blowers, their the last bastion against wrongdoing, be that at government or corporate level. But if two individuals having a bad day they but heads, its going to get messy real fast regardless of it being corporate or football, add a bit of pride and the situation is generally unrecoverable. Ultimately rightly or wrongly its the boss who pays the cheque so he gets the last say. Not sure we need a royal inquisition to sort everything out all of the time. Unless you could prove bmd are using a child labour slave force i don't think its any of our business. what goes on. mercer i cant say i agree with you about bm cutting corners. I haven't owned any earlier bmd cameras. For me i can hold the p4k in one hand and a canon and a number of older but still usable still cameras in the other. it looks and feels like any of the other plastic housed cameras that i own, it seems solid enough after 8 months or so it hasn't fallen apart, the pcb hasn't fallen out neither has the battery door been an issue. sure it would be nice to say that the frame was magnesium and all that crap but that may have put it out of my range perhaps. Personally i cared abit about the image, there was enough evidence from previous bmd cameras for me to justify lashing out on a new p4k. I figure bmd is australian, i'm australian, i should be a little bit patriotic.🏳️ with a p4k i should future proof myself for little while. Anyone that denigrates the original image from the pocket has to be an idiot. I suspect that some people have a need to feel special or privileged perhaps, any thing that impacts on that aura tends to get denigrated pretty quickly. There are many cinema cameras out there that give a great image, it really shouldn't matter what one chooses to work with. I chose the p4k others may opt for an arri or something else its their choice. i''m kinda blunt at times i may or may not of inadvertently trod on some toes if i have offended you thats too bad, but feel free to downvote me 😀 if i appear like a bmd fanboy so be it, btw i'll get my own box of chocolates😉

sorry im a bit late too the party i made my own but i had access to a waterject cutter. you could do something similar with a drill just depends on how enthusiastic you are i measured everything then had a piece cut out of 5mm sheet alloy my elmoscope came with a mount attached i had the arm machined off the mount and three holes drilled and tapped to bolt the old mount and my "custom" upright together. The waterject cost me nothing however the machining was a different matter Still i get a warm glow at night keeping a local fed and watered. At the same time i had a adapter made up as the back of the elmoscope is an odd filter size, the other side of it is the same size as a 85mm takumar i think. i had hopes of getting a single focus solution before now but that hasn't worked out. The issue is that its a solid mount so i come unstuck if the lenses wants to move forward or backwards when you focus the taking lens as there is no give in the system At this point 1) i either change the base to a linear rail to allow it to move as the taking lens moves 2) buy a single lens solution 3) buy the sirui anamorphic and worry about the elmoscope later on 4) build some type of bellows that has 30-40mm travel but that may cause issues with vignetting. hope the photos give you some ideas

guess i have to start calling you junior 😉 if i had more money i'd probably buy one to round out the collection 😎 btw hows that light going ? you should stick it outside and point it upwards one night, then i get to see where you live 😁

if i knew how to collapse the market believe me i would 😁 A canon fd 24mm 2.8 ssc can be had for under $200 au then the 24mm 1.4 start at $2000 - 4000 crazy insane 🙄 you guys know if there is there much difference between the the 50mm f1.2 and the 58mm f1.2 apart from 8mm ? there is one on ebay reasonably priced at the moment i could be tempted to get it. Now that i have said that someone will probably jump on it 🙄

sorry buddy, but i am going to have to disagree with you on the reason for its form factor. A box is the easiest thing in the world to build, a box also gives you lots of space, to go out of your way to build something else points to other reasoning and i personally reckon that they wanted it resembling a dslr. How convenient is it that all the controls resemble a dslr, its like its made for people who have used a dslr pick up a cinema camera and can start shooting in 5 minutes even if was provided with hieroglyphics. 🙄 Give me a boxy cinema camera and with out the manual and a couple of youtubes , i am unlikely to find the on/off switch 😀 i think its pretty easy for someone to transition from a dslr to a p4k/p6k cinema camera with a minimum of fuss. Personally i think the only thing the designers got wrong was giving it a non flippy screen. Thats almost tantamount to criminal neglect in this day and age and i would have even paid an extra $200 if that was the cost incurred. i use it without stabilization but i wouldnt post anything unless you guys needed a laugh 😉 sorry if i didnt answer your question directly. i bought the p4k which predates the p6k so in a way i have answered your question as to which i prefer. whether it works on a gimbal or not is moot to me at this point as i cant afford one. I would argue, with an adapter i can fit just as many lenses on my p4k speedboosted as any ef mount or any other camera mount should i so desire. I may not have auto focus, but i am the kind of guy to buy a katz eye micro focus screen and install it into his dslr, so not having auto focus isnt an issue for me. i guess their interpretation differs from yours a little, besides their human their not going to get it right, all the time every time (take the non flippy screen for example ) but i dont think its worth hanging some poor dude over. i doubt any of us are excusing it or condoning it. if we are honest with ourselves we could probably all do better. If you watch the news at night you will soon learn its a dog eat dog world out there, people are constantly ripping other people off it occurs at every level whether its washing cars (seen that on the news believe it or not ) or members of parliament or businesses. Seems ironic that its been two thousand years since jesus walked the earth, technology certainly has improved but how man treats other men really hasn't.

when i joined the forum all the talk was about the p4k. Stylish was not a word that came up often, but that didn't bother me. i came from dslr's so the p4k design didn't seem to dissimilar from a dslr . Imagine that, a cinema camera that looked a bit like a dslr, something i could relate to. I would speculate that bm pitched it like that to sell a few more to mum and dads and other potential new users. must of worked, i preordered 😁 if your relying on hieroglyphs then your in luck, probably the easiest ui to interpret would be the p4k. 😉 Can you point my to a link where industrial design is specified ? I have reread the box and all the brochures i can find but it seems bm made no claims of industrial design apart from carbon fibre in the body ? if it were $2000 more, a whole bunch of us wouldn't have bought it, myself included. I personally think that it fulfills a niche and so far its done all i have asked of it . i can't claim it on tax so i personally prefer to treat it like a camera rather than a football. my precious !!! muuArh haha.... cough, cough. edit : it should come as no surprise how some companies behave been my experience the bigger they are the more refined they are generally, smaller ones, the boss tends to have a misplaced god complex. if you haven't experienced this then be very very grateful.

time for a custom table perhaps ? there's a vblog in there i do like your idea with the camera in a drawer idea i'd mount a power adapter at the back of the desk drill a hole in the drawer to run the power cable through or mount it to the underside of desk. Then you could charge it up when you put it away. I'd also add a seal of some kind around the drawer. The last few months with the drought and dust storms, fires, have had a lot more crap in the air even in the house.

welcome to the rabbit hole, how deep it goes is up to you. I think quite few people jump the gun on these bigger projector lenses without doing alot of homework first. I know i did 😁 While cheap initially making it more practical gets expensive fast. Still with a clamp and lens support you can at least wet your feet in anamorphics its not a fail, its just more challenging to utilize properly. Some would call it character building 😉 If you persevere you can pat yourself on the back as its not a path many will travel. If nothing else attach it to a camera and stick it on a shelf, great conversation starter or resell on ebay to the next newbie anamorphic adoptee. with the sirui anamorphic coming out and if it does well i'd expect projection lenses to take a hit as its so much easier just to buy a complete unit rather than cobble something together which is good for mft and probably full frame further down the road

nobody in the entire history of marketing, ever talked their product down . Of course their going to be excited, excitement generates hype, hype gets everyone in a bit of a tizz and out buying stuff. Canon probably want to sell a lot of product before someone works out where its been gimped 🙄 Now before you canon fanbooys start lighting flaming torches and pick up your pitchforks i also have a canon, albeit 10 year old canon but it still works and with magic lantern onboard i can do all sorts of things canon never intended. What canon really need to do is collaborate with magic lantern and produce something extraordinary, something really game changing. But i suspect thats way to left of field for them to consider. For you guys i hope that canon really do lift their game, as for me i have the bmd p4k its enough for me maybe further down the track i may look at another still camera, maybe not.

i did have a place in southport on the gold coast 10 or more years ago but the chances of that dude still being around are slim. been meaning to check out a place at burliegh the next time i hit the coast as i have a canon zoom thats refuses to go back together. Tafe should really run classes on this sort of thing 😉

c'mon fess up 😀

one more interesting videos i have seen in a while quite creative. it seems equal parts live action and particle systems if i'm right. Been meaning to dabble with resolves fusion or green screening abilities this year

then the web site goes down and you still get cat images 😉

it is going back a while, i had just picked up a t90 not long after that canon announced that they were no longer going to make fd lenses, there may of very well been an overlap my mind tends to compress time as it goes backward 🙄

I know women can multitask but running a camera with both hands in your pockets, must be next level 😲