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Looks to be a lot better. That said contrast detect simply can't match a phase detect system.

Woah, the camera race is crazy right now.

It would be quite amazing if they remove the 30 minute record limit!

Yeah the fast lenses looked nice but they were too expensive and don't perform well enough. I have old minolta lenses if I want a super shallow softer look. I would highly suggest the 23mm f2 and 50mm f2 they are very fast and sharp. I got both of mine used for pretty cheap. Next lens I am getting is a 18-55mm 2.8-4 for when I need OIS or just want an all in one lens. A pretty cheap kit all in all. Yeah its not going to give you as good of low light performance as a Sony with an F2 lens though.

I would say ability to record in prores internally is a huge plus. High frame rates in RAW and 4k. Pretty large community surrounding black magic cameras, which is always helpful. Unlike a lot of cine cameras the BMP4K can also do high ISO's.

How is the IBIS compared to a GH5?

Didn't grade at all or color correct. Flog Eterna Lut 2048 x 1080 24fps -4 sharpening -3 NR (thought it was all the way down)

There is no way the Sony won't match the XT3 in specs. It would just be suicide not to IMHO. In fact I think it will have specs that outdo the Fuji in some ways. That said Fuji color will still be fuji color and why I chose to get a fuji in the first place.

I am confused as heck. XT2 higher dynamic range then XT3??

For me Flog with the eterna LUT gives a great image. It honestly looked very close to what I was filming as far as colors go, very natural. Handheld shots are useable, I was just filming really poorly. Quick panning like I was doing is a bad idea, due to rolling shutter. If you do a controlled pan it looks fine though. Also I was filming with a 50mm lens. 50 is too long for handheld. A 35mm or 23mm would have looked a lot better. That said the 18-55 or 16-50 lenses are great for handheld, OIS works a charm. The rolling shutter isn't great (worse then the GH5) but its not bad either. A large step up from the A6300. Its better in 1080 as well.

Here is a test I made with the XT3. Kind of sloppy shooting. This was shot -4 sharpening 400mbps - Long GOP, 4K, -4 sharpening, -4 noise Reduction, Flog, eterna Lut, no grading, no ND filters, indoor shots were auto WB, handheld

Would be cool to see some 10bit footage out of the camera. It is a step in the right direction at least. Maybe internal 10 bit in their next mirrorless model?

Interesting, so its superior to turning up regular noise reduction?

Just discovered the XT3 does 400mbps in Long GOP, I am quite surprised. The GH5 and other cameras do 400mbps in All-I but not Long GOP. Should yield some noticeable quality increase.

Auto focus would probably take a big hit. I pretty much agree though. The only thing is 4k is better on the EOS R, at least you get DPAF with it. The M50 has no DPAF in 4k.

Great post!

Will it do video I wonder

Yeah but neither the Pana or the Z6 is out. Yeah but speedboosters don't really count. Definitely can hinder auto focus performance. My reasoning for the XH2 specs is I think they will want to be competitive with the Sony A7000. Plus the XH1 had 120fps and higher bitrate recording unlike the XT2. So I'd assume they would continue on with the tradition.

I don't find the lack of 10 bit a big deal because its full frame. When a full frame 10bit camera comes out, Sony will be behind. We'll see if Panasonic delivers it.

I think its a little too early to say they are turning into Canon. The A7III is still the bargain full frame camera to get. Nikon's release is cool but it doesn't have some of the features the cheaper Sony does. They are cooking up new stuff it will just take time. Canon isn't cooking up anything, just serving left overs, cold leftovers? The A7000 is rumored to be released with internal 422 and 240fps HD and IBIS. That camera alone with be a winner, especially if they redo their color science.

I think Sony has and continues to do a great job. The A7III is a great camera. So was the A7SII. Nikon's new mirrorless certainly gives the Sony some competition. But other then that nobody else has a 6k sensor full frame with no crop. Panasonic is gearing into action but its not out yet, and will most likely have sucky auto focus. That said I am not a big Sony fan. Fuji all the way. I think the XH2 will be a great camera, probably have higher frame rates (240fps or 180), internal 422 and IBIS. I doubt it will have XLR inputs or internal ND's though.

Yeah but the whole question of this thread is if IBIS is a must have in 2018. I would say no. You can just buy lenses with IS or stabilize in post. But again I am pretty sure those issues are coming from using one handed gimbals( which suck for getting really stable shots). That's what most people use though I guess, including me lol. Though I am going to get a two handed extension for mine soon.

The question was about IBIS only though. If you can simply use IS to replace IBIS, then IBIS is even more less essential.

I was speaking more in terms of general image quality. The GH5 is one of the best performers in anything around its price range. It would be a little embarrassing if the XT3 was shooting just as good video at 5x the frame rate.

Because the GH5 has an amazing codec at least when not shooting high speed.