thebrothersthre3

he's talking about the folks back at home

Well the VariCam is a bigger sensor, different look.

Don't forget flippy screen and unlimited record times. Does the S1 have unlimited record times? I have a feeling there is more to this camera though. Doesn't the S1 only have 8 bit 4k 60p where as the S1H will be 10bit internal.

For more hollywood productions yeah dynamic range doesn't usually matter that much as they are so well lit. Though with modern filmmaking I feel like natural lighting is becoming a much bigger thing. Its surprised me sometimes but there aren't too many situations where my GH5 or XT3's dynamic range wasn't up to the task. Some pretty minimal lighting can take care of any issues usually.

Yeah slow motion 4k burst mode would be sick. I wish all cameras had more high speed options, even at lower res. I'd like to see 4k 120fps even if its a m43 crop.

Yeah for me Prores is good enough for pretty much any application. I guess if you are going to spend 10k on a camera you may as well shoot RAW. More expensive tho

I don't know the GH4 was released in May of 2014 and the GH5 January of 2017. Seems like the GH6 release could be this year or early next year.

I know you got the Pocket recently, did you get rid of the GH5?

Panasonic is releasing a new M43 zoom lens. They are making a ton of new full frame glass as they are just putting out new full frame cameras with a new mount. The Pocket 4k is great but the body kind of sucks. It doesn't cater to the same market as people who would buy a GH5. I am sure its winning in terms of people buying it for cinema use but in terms of hybrid cameras it isn't really even competitive.

The GH5 is good enough where I keep contemplating on buying another one. There is still nothing out there that matches it. The Pocket 4k is amazing but its not a run and gun camera and neither is the Z cam. I think the GH6 can easily be a winner. Just update the specs a bit, incorporate IBIS, and have good auto focus. With all that there would be nothing else like it on the market. The price should also be $1500 new, same as the XT3. The Pocket 4k and Z cam are awesome but the GH5 still overall works better for a run and gun hybrid camera, especially considering IBIS. IBIS is the biggest reason most people get the GH5 combined with the pretty decent specs and low cost of an M43 system.

If the GH5S had internal RAW or 4k 120fps it would have been a much bigger hit. I did a video called why the GH5Sucks when it came out for those two reasons. We didn't even get internal 10 bit 4k 60p. Everytime I think about upgrading to a new camera I just remember how good my XT3 is.

yeah I wonder what the rolling shutter is on the 70d in RAW, always trade offs.

Interesting though I am talking the 70d not the EOSM, though maybe they perform the same. The one benefit of the Pocket is of course prores.

I don't think of the GH5S as an upgrade just an alternative. It was an upgrade in terms of low light performance, but they sacrificed megapixel count, resolution, and IBIS. There is really no reason to get a GH4 over a GH5. The GH5S and GH5 are a toss up though based on needs. But yeah I get what you are saying.

I might have to buy one, they are pretty darn cheap second hand. How does the image compare to a BM Pocket camera (original one)?

How was the EOS RP competing against the Nikon Z6? Not sure how the GH5S is an upgrade, kind of just a different camera that was priced higher than the GH5 at launch for no particular reason.

Not sure if the GH5S was a disaster in sales. It hasn't seen a big drop in price like the Z6 has in a short time.

Wait so you can do 14bit RAW HD with dual pixel auto focus??? wooah

An SLR isn't going to replace a cinema camera but this could easily take the spot of B-cam. Lots of people have used the GH5 as a B or C cam, thats how the GHAlex LUT got created. I think that will be the production use of this camera as well as an A cam for smaller shoots or run and gun stuff. This is actually the first camera in a while that I am semi excited for. I think the amount of posts in this thread shows that a lot of other people are as well.

A pocket 4k with a 10000 nit flip screen and IBIS(Hey even GH5 level would be great) would be a pretty incredible package.

I actually have a metabones one I used when I owned panasonic cameras. I switched to Fuji though and couldn't justify the price of another metabones. The cheaper adapters like the one you linked don't quite cut it for me. The difference between a roxen and a metabones probably isn't as big as I'd like to think though. The perfectionist in me is hard on the wallet sometimes.

Yeah I also like Minolta glass, probably more than Nikon for some reason. Though my speedboosters are for Nikon as well as my Film camera, so I'll probably sell all of my minolta glass. The 35mm 1.8 is tough to get rid of though. I use both personally. The one nice thing about Fuji auto focus glass is they have manual aperture rings. I agree lenses without a manual aperture ring drive me crazy. I've also gotten used to being able to adjust the shutter speed and iso with a dial on the Fuji cameras which is awesome.

Very nice, mind going through how you graded it?

Dynamic Range Auto Focus Large detailed screen(also bright) To me Dynamic range really gives the high end look, coupled with 10 bit or higher color depth imo. Auto focus is huge at least if its as good as what Sony is doing with the A6400. A 5in screen that is very bright would be really helpful to have on most cameras. Saves me having to have a monitor on top of the camera. Being able to see what you are shooting is highly underrated lol.

No IBIS is a bummer. Really hoping they include internal ND's somehow. I think Pana auto focus might be state of the art if they incorporate phase detect. They seem to have a pretty advanced ai system in there already. They should just include both options and let the user decide.