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Crazy you can get one of these for around $1500. Tempting

I don't know, I feel like the 1DX MK2 did well enough with solo operators. Granted it has and still has the best auto focus one can get. That said the Panasonic punches ahead in terms of low light, dynamic range, resolution, bit depth and codec. I think people are also underestimating the value of a flippy screen. Some vloggers have been using Pana G85's or GH5's almost solely for the flip screen. A full frame flippy screen camera that isn't a handicapped Canon has been long awaited. Probably a pretty niche market though. We'll see how well it does at $4000.

Time to get a Zcam or FS5 with atomos recorder ?

I feel like the GH6 needs to be perfect. I mean I guess if its priced right thats also a big selling point. If it costs $1500 it doesn't exactly need to match a $4000 camera.

Not sure about Fuji as they are already doing really well in the APSC camp, at a very low price point. But it will definitely give Sony something to think about and hopefully Canon. I have a feeling both Sony and Canon have something in the works though.

They have no excuse at this point. The S1H isn't a photo oriented camera, the S1 is.

If this camera has good highlight retention I am probably down.

There of course are big advantages to shooting with an URSA. If the Panasonic delivers similar dynamic range though for most projects the S1H will deliver a cleaner, more detailed image. With 10 bit 422 you'll be able to do more with color than most people need. Even with my Fuji XT3 I am finding when I go to edit I am rarely ever thinking I wish I had more dynamic range or that there isn't enough color information. Low light is the one area where the Fuji does suffer compared to full frame.

Something really satisfying about seeing Panasonic really deliver the goods. If they put internal ND's in it will truly be revolutionary. We'll see how Sony responds.

True though in terms of image quality the S1H will probably be superior in many ways. Probably little to no moire, 6k retaining more detail than the URSA's 4.6k. The lowlight performance will make the URSA look like a GH1. If I were to do documentary's this camera would be hard to beat. People make the mistake of shooting wide open all the time and getting soft spots. The cool thing about cameras like the S1H is that even low light you can shoot with a higher aperture by just bumping up the iso to 12,800 or even 24,000.

This thread is pretty hot right now. For whatever reason Panasonic cameras tend to create a lot of buzz, or maybe there is just a big fan base around them. You look at the long ass threads surrounding cameras like the GH2, GH4, GH5 but something like the Fuji XT3 didn't get much attention, outside of maybe a bit on this board.

Wonder how well adapted glass works. If I was going for the S1 I'd probably go the speedbooster route to get that medium format look. Not going to lie if it had built in ND's it would go right to the top of my going to buy list. Even without it though the S1 is attractive and the S1H even more so.

That is very true. The 18-55 is wonderful. The speed of setting up a monopod is really nice sometimes.

I am counting on the Sony being a game changer but who knows. You may think they want to protect their cine line, but Pana has a cinema line too. I think people who want a Cine camera aren't just looking at picture quality. The form factor and outputs are important. I think Fuji MF is catering to a different crowd than the full frame cameras anyways. Not that they couldn't bridge a gap.

Throw on a Ninja V and you got a good setup. I am currently holding off on buying a cinema camera as the prices just keep dropping on everything.

For me its to the point where cameras are so good and affordable its simply tough to make something that's attractive anymore. You can get a S35 camera that shoots 4k 10 bit up to 60p with good auto focus for 1k. This new Panasonic camera is very significant though. Full frame 10 bit 422(assuming) 4k 60p is huge. 6k recording full frame is also huge, I think people will love that. The question is of course will Sony put out something that beats it and with their own affordable lens line up and amazing auto focus. The next fuji camera could be even more killer as well. The lens issue is the real killer for those who don't have 8k to spend on new gear. Though for those adapting glass that will be a non issue.

The new Panasonic S1H with Sage's LUT should be a real winner.

It kind of makes sense to me. If it had a low MP sensor I'd be more interested. Right now it just is too much like an XT3. The external recording options are very nice though. Still it'll have really good IBIS and and a classic tough built Panasonic body.

Different camera than being discussed but interesting. I might buy it depending on the price, considering I love panasonic. The lack of 120p 10 bit internal is a bit disappointing. Would be nice to see internal 14bit 1080p and 10 bit 120p 1080. Still pretty content with my Fuji.

I've found a tripod ends up getting me a better image for most uses, that is compared to my GH5's IBIS. I do miss IBIS for vacation stuff where I don't want to bring any gear though.

That is a great setup. Only thing that might push me towards Sony is the better lowlight and AF. That said I like the Panasonic image better though Sony kills it in Dynamic range. Yeah its the best you can get in that price bracket IMHO. The only thing they should have also done was give it that flip up screen like the A6400. The sony auto focus is amazing though to me the benefits of Fuji out weigh it.

Measuring exposure is easy enough where you don't really need to know the exact f-stop. Not being able to control through an app is definitely a loss if you do that sort of thing though.

Interesting turn of events.

Lens Turbo seemed to be the closest to Metabones in terms of quality. You can control the aperture manually with a Lens Turbo. No need for electronics if you don't need AF.

My XT30 with 18-55 packs a big punch in a really small package. The in camera audio is pretty nice as well. Probably would be my go to for traveling light. That said an A6300(or any of that line) with a Sony 16-50 is much more pocketable. The 18-55 blows the Sony 16-50 away but its at least twice as long and heavy.