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I can send a google drive link for RAW files if anyone wants. But I think this demonstrates the dynamic range differences. Ursa 4.6k over exposed Pocket 6k over exposed Ursa 4.6k under exposed (zoomed in to show noise pattern better) Pocket 6k under exposed (zoomed in to show noise pattern better)

Camera conspiracies is great, though I've been following him since his vegan days in Thailand. He's just a silly every day guy with a very quirky sense of humor. He's very honest and non corporate which is endearing. I really don't know why someone can't make an ideal vlogging camera. Panasonic is pretty much just phase detect AF away from doing it. Though I agree something like the GH5S with IBIS and better AF would be pretty ideal.

Yeah the Pocket camera idea could work with a better battery life and tilt screen. I’d prefer a smaller Ursa body though with the Pocket 6k sensor. Phase detect AF would be huge though I don’t see it happening. I’m guessing an URSA LF will be the next BM camera though. I don’t mind lower res camera but 6k full frame seems to be the way forward. I’d love if the Pocket 6k could do full sensor 4k RAW tho

The vertical lines on the 4.6k ruin it in the deep shadows. Maybe the G2 doesn't share that issue though.

Yeah it just doesn't hold up in real life, not sure whats up with the inaccurate measurements Weird thing I was getting less noise in the shadows against the URSA at 800 ISO

Gonna link them later today or tomorrow, I'm out of town RN. They are pretty conclusive tho IMO

I tested the Ursa with CDNG which scored 12.6 and 13 with NR. I used NR in my test. Nah it's a different sensor entirely. I'm assuming its similar to the XT3 / A6300 sensor. Yeah the P4K definitely is great. Better than an A6300/GH5S/XT3

Will post up on Google Drive. Its not the best test in the world but it does demonstrate the Pocket 6k's greater dynamic range. I set both cameras to the same ISO, aperture, and shutter speed and used a 300w LED to clip the subjects face and see which could pull back more highlights. Then we did a rough shadow test. The URSA seemed to be on par with the Pocket shadow wise but you got the vertical fixed noise, which ruined it. Hopefully I can get them up today or tomorrow. My first indication was @Juan Melara Alexa Powergrade thread. He tested it against the Alexa and found the P6K had more highlight information. Then I saw someone posting how the Pocket 6k has more dynamic range than the RED helium. haha yeah for sure. I feel like Blackmagic doesn't market their cameras well enough lol. They should put out their own dynamic range charts or tests against other cameras. The Pocket 6k would clean the floor with almost anything imho.

micro HDMI out? 😅 😥 Still great updates though.

Could be for sure. When it was first announced I was super excited. I thought it was going to be shooting video similar to what my XT3 can do in RAW stills. It turns out that is close to being true. I've seen a lot of threads discussing Pocket 6k vs something higher end, and the lower dynamic range is always brought up. But it turns out the Pocket 6k is right up there with the C500 MK2 even the Alexa. Certainly there are advantages to an alexa or RED helium but its really getting slimmer and slimmer. The URSA G2 form factor, rolling shutter, form factor, and 4k 120fps and all still big advantages. But for me rolling shutter is rarely an issue and I am usually ready to take a hit on most things to put dynamic range at a priority.

This is a very strange one to me. I've seen online tests as well as examples from shoots I've been on of the Pocket 6k having really great dynamic range. Yet Blackmagic claims it has less dynamic range than the Ursa Mini and the same dynamic range as the Pocket 4k. Cinema 5d measured it at 11.9 stops while measuring the Ursa at 12.6. I tested the Pocket 6k against the URSA, both at 800 iso and the Pocket had more highlight and shadow information, by a good amount. If the Ursa has 12.6 stops of dynamic range the Pocket 6k has got to have over 13 maybe 13.5. I'll probably post the tests if anyone is interested.

Sony doesn't even have external 10 bit video lol. Panasonic claims they don't do PDAF as it degrades IQ. Fuji 10 bit holds up pretty darn well though.

Would be great if Panasonic got their AF and IBIS tech. Really the two things holding pana back right now. There is nothing like Pana/Olympus IBIS for vlogging

This camera sucks beyond belief lol. Camera conspiracies hit the nail on the head. One of the best features that Pana has is IBIS, especially for vlogging and they removed it lmao. 10 bit is another great feature, really puts the image quality ahead. But they don't include that either... Plus it sounds like it doesn't have the auto focus features of the G9, which is also pretty essential for vlogging. Just get a G9.

Yeah high dynamic range, codec, and resolution are the selling points these days imho. In that order for me as well. If Zcam was able to make something like BRAW internally they'd be a huge competitor IMHO.

I am thinking the funky colors in the violin shot are due to underexposure. It looks like a rather high dynamic range scene. To get good exposure on your subject you'd probably have to clip the sky in the back. Underexposure can result in funky colors.

Yeah it looks way underexposed my man

How does the light work in mixed lighting conditions. Say daylight coming in from windows and interior tungsten lights? @Sage

Makes sense. Its already lifted here thankfully. Hopefully the virus doesn't come back in full force tho..

This dude's main reason for purchasing it was form factor. He found a rigged up P4K to be impractical on rough and dirty shoots. He still loves BRAW though he said the Z-cam has more dynamic range. Form factor is honestly a big reason I didn't pull the trigger on the P4K, though I still might get one honestly. If the P6K had full sensor 4k RAW I'd be all over it.

Not to spam with youtube videos but seeing as their aren't a ton of Z-cam reviews on Youtube I thought this was interesting. He had previously switched from Fuji to BMPCC4K. He was impressed with the RAW and better tonal transitions going from 10 bit H265 to BRAW. He seems to really love the Z-cam though.

Used market is probably your best bet. The 18-35 lens is so sturdy you don't really have to worry about them going bad imho

I bought one and then cancelled it lol. Have to save for home rental deposit. 😥

I don't think it'll be anything magic but if it can offer clean high iso's, global shutter, high dynamic range, high resolution............ what's not to like? Not sure what people are expecting from some random videos of people at a beach.

Looks like something on a construction site.