Video Hummus

I get it. I'll happily wait for a mark 2 of the 100RF.

What exactly are you getting that you can't get somewhere else? Is it R3D only? See below then... I wouldn't count that as a win or worth the money to upgrade. Currently, the R3D in the ZR is 1500Mbps. You HAVE to shoot RAW to get the most out of the ZR when you compare it to other cameras. One wedding would be 4+ TB of footage. For $500 more Panasonic delivers a camera with 10 stops of latitude (the same as an Alexa LF) a solid 3 stops more than the ZR. But it might overheat. 9 stops without their "DR Boost" which is still better than the ZR. Or you buy and FX6 with electronic ND and make your life 3x times easier. If the ZR shipped with R3D with ELQ compression than it probably would be a decent buy. I'm definitely not sold on it for its current price and feature set. But considering the starting price is so low, and discounts will happen, it might be an interesting camera in 8 months.

On one hand, we have a video company (Panasonic) with a very robust video imaging pipeline, managing to squeeze an amazing amount of DR and latitude performance out of sensor that first appeared (lackluster; performance wise) in the Z6III. However, the camera was still heavily criticized for "terrible" rolling shutter performance and seemingly NOT being a SONY camera. Never-mind sony has released several cameras with terrible rolling shutter but people still shat their pants for them. The curse of being Panasonic LUMIX and not Sony Alpha. Nikon's take-2 on the same partially stacked sensor housed in a new body--apparently designed less than 1.5 years after they bought RED (Press X for doubt) for a measly 85 million (RED probably had massive debts that Nikon absorbed). It seems to me they did their best to squeeze enough RED tech for marketing purposes into a camera that was clearly just designed to be a Z6III with a new body, minus EVF, and with a huge giant screen. More like a Version 0.5 of "Z Cinema" than a V1.0, IMHO.

Fujifilm will probably release a GFX 100RF with a 28mm f/2.8 in 3-4 years, with IBIS, and an updated sensor and no one will give a shit about wanting a FF fuji camera. They'll instead be asking Leica why there isn't a MF sensor in their Q, hmmm?

They also fixed their horrible n-log view assist. Nikon is really killing lately with their value for money, firmware, and camera offerings.

I've owned and used both of these cameras. I had the R5C when it first came out. R5C is dead in the water for me because of the RF lens mount lock-out. It's one of the main reasons I left RF. So, get the Z8. I use a Z8 with 400mm f/4.5 with and without the 1.4x TC and love it. If telephoto lenses are important to you than Nikon has perhaps the best lineup right now with the Z mount. They are the only ones that have the holy grail end-game of telephoto lenses: 400mm f/2.8 and 600mm f/4 both with built-in TC. They also have cheaper and excellent options: 180-600 f/4.5-5.6 being a standout value proposition. The 400mm f/4.5, 600mm f/6.3, and 800mm f/6.3 are still kinda unmatched. Z mount has some cool third party lens options and growing. Nikon has been slower to release non telephoto Z mount but they are doing it. The Z 28-135mm f/4 PZ being their latest. The Z8 is my favorite camera I've used in the past 8 years: A7III, GH5S, R5, R5C, X-H2S. I've shot some of my favorite photos with the X-H2S and am very fond of that camera but the Z8 performs so much better has a hybrid camera. I'm also really excited to see what Nikon does with their RED acquisition and Z mount. I think there are exciting products coming from Nikon.

It involves their partner and I'm not talking about Leica. RED going down market and Sony's success with VENICE has stirred up some unlikely partnership collabs.

It started with the YT AI slop science channels. It has progressed to AI generated "Let's Play" slop content for children. They WILL start using it to make commercials... ...then move on to making kids shows for your kids iPads so you can go to work and forget about parenting... ...then endless Netflix AI slop TV shows for the parents... ...parents that went in to debt to go to college but didn't learn anything because they used chatGPT to write their papers and get their grades... ...who then go into critical jobs without knowing jack shit... ...which they will then lean heavily on chatGPT to do their jobs (because that's what they learned in college). The lucky ones will die in the next drone war powered by Anduril.

On another note… Panasonic needs to release a f/2.8 PZ lens. If Fujifilm can do a 28-180 f/4 surely Panasonic could do a MFT 12-150 f/2.8

Panasonic product releases perplex me. March 2019 - S1/R flopped because they released the much smaller, cheaper, and functionally the same… September 2020 - S5 the Sony’fied version of Panasonics FF. Still no PDAF. Sales probably OK. February 2022 - GH6: quirky, no PDAF. Didn’t sell well because… January 2023 - S5II with PDAF and FF. mFT iS DeAd! June 2023 - GH7 with PDAF, improved sensor over GH6 (less quirks cleaner image), internal everything kitchen sink! The S1H should be slotted in there in 2019 but I left it out because it really was a niche product. It did however have a huge impact on future camera designs: mainly the GH6 and S5IIX. I suspect we will see a S2H soon to continue the cycle of shooting your own cameras in the foot.

A few years. I have been disappointed with Canon’s third party lens fiasco, lack of mid-range quality L-glass, and some other things. My R5C is sold off. I kept the R5 for photos but might sell that off. It says “wholly-owned subsidiary” of Nikon. So my guess is key technology will trickle from Red to Nikon (global shutter sensors, raw compression on high end Nikon gear, etc…) Red probably continue to do what they do but with Z-mount ecosystem integration. I also wonder if this is a way for Nikon to break free from Sony Semi-conductor in a way with global sensor technology, which seems to be the direction the industry is going.

Big moves against Canon. This has to be related in someway to the settlement as it was extremely hush-hush. The corporate culture couldn’t be more different between the companies. Very interesting. I think they will be run separate with some co-branding happening here and there and of course technology sharing. Red fanboy panties will be twisted hard if Nikon is slapped on their camera.

I have the R5C and the R5 and I prefer the R5C setup over the always on IBIS in the R5 for video. At least with the RF 24-70 the OIS + EIS combo has worked amazingly well for hand held static and controlled handheld pans and tilts in my experience. IBIS wobble is horrible. I come to really notice it and hate it.

LP-E6NH give me on average about 30-35 minutes of actual record time with occasional waveform and false color usage, 4K XF-AFC, Continuous AF, Lens IS. If you are running and gunning you can use the media button hack and extend standby battery life considerably probably even more if you flick the IS Off on the lens as well.

It sucks ass. - A R5C owner I enjoy using the camera though and just carry 3x more batteries with me than if using just my R5. You can rig and shoot for hours but I don't like using cables if I don't have too. I would have gotten a C70 but would prefer FF with RF glass I have.

It seems so. Kinda shady, for sure. Although the camera and cards become really hot. I would say the CFExpress becomes so hot it can cause burns if taken out of the camera too fast.

I would say the R5 does respectably well for a 45MP FSI sensor compared to those other cameras in that test. S5 definitely is a goat, if you don't need reliable video AF.

I really, really want a XC15 style camera with internal ND and a newer 1" sensor with 10-bit CLOG3. If they could improve the lens and make it a 24-240 f/2.8-4...I think it would be a killer little "bridge" cinema camera for pretty much anything. I have a R5C and I have been enjoying the 3K s16 RAW mode on the RF 24-70 and especially on the RF 70-200. But honestly it renewed my crazy want for a new XC style camera even more. Fuck it. I'm going to rent a XC10 next month and pretend its what I want 🙂

This is it. All the other language about "greater than 23fps" and "4K or higher" or "internal, visually lossless" is all written to broaden the patent intentionally as a, in my opinion, blatant "idea" smash and grab. They only came up with a method and instead they got a patent for essentially: "visually lossless compressed bayer data in a camera at greater than 23fps and 4K and up resolution". Ford invented a novel form of locomotion via a box ("vehicle") with 4 or more wheels, powered by an internal combustion engine (as described in prior patent XYZ), moving at speeds greater than 23mph. Ford is calling it a "motorized vehicle" and will sue anybody that tries to use wheels and internal combustion engines to go faster than 23mph.

Looks like their new LiDAR device on the top of that picture. I was actually interested in a Pocket 3 for various things. It does so much better than a GoPro/Action in lower light conditions since it stabilizes with a gimbal and not electronically with fast shutter. My guess if there is a pocket 3 it will have the Mini 3 Pro sensor and gimbal.

I only see LUMIX surviving if they implement PDAF on par with Olympus or better. That is the bottom line. It's 2022 and every camera out there worth a damn is track focusing fairly well (except Fujifilm). I always wondered what exactly Leica contributed to the L-mount alliance except for the mount. They jointly (perhaps) help with development of the LUMIX PL lenses but beyond that Leica SL and SL2 internals are all from Panasonic with the color engine done by Leica. Perhaps Leica agrees to invest more of their profit from their $7000 re-skinned S1R into the alliance going forward.

ProRes internal is great momentum going forward. Seems like more and more companies are adding it. IBIS looks like it is not the best even just static hand holding. Not sure what is going on there. I've seen a lot of people complain about CF Express being expensive in reviews. You can get a Angelbird 512GB card that will handle 8K for $179. Prograde 256GB SD card is 62% more expensive for half the space. Prograde 256 SD = $1.12/GB Angelbird 512 CFX = 0.34/GB Angelbird 1TB CFX = 0.48/GB Angelbird 2TB CFX = 0.48/GB Angelbird 4TB CFX = 0.45/GB

That's entirely different to a highly nuanced technology discussion.

I'm not doubting the work of Graeme's work. Patent the hell out of it. But they can't claim they have exclusive rights to "'visually lossless' compressed data derived from raw, stored in camera memory at greater than 23 fps." Precisely define visually lossless. Precisely define "in-camera". Precisely define "data". RAW Bayer CFA? What is stopping Fuji from using its X-Trans sensor layout (not bayer) and doing the same thing? Can they sue Fuji for that? Does RED's patent apply to every possible sensor layout not invented by them because they have patents over words like "camera", "raw", "data", "compression"? There are lots of patents for data compression 'methodologies', which is what Graeme's work truly is, as applied to cameras. He did not invent "camera", "raw", "data", or "compression", or "greater than 23fps capture".

So I guess dealing with 1:1 4.6K RAW is worth it over using a RED camera just for the compressed RAW. I have no problem with RED's innovation and them making money off it and protecting it. However, the way that patent is written is complete and utter bullshit. It's like someone claiming they have exclusive rights to any vehicle using round wheels going over 50mph. It's excessively broad.