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At the end of the LUMIX Live YouTube streams they have been joking about it. I’m sure they have something but I’m not sure the market is there. World is on fire right now. Some more then others unfortunately 🙁 (not an R5 joke; Incase anybody shits their pants in anger).

No one claimed this, so stop being an ass. You asked for evidence. He gave you some. No one is claiming they should shoot their next Netflix documentary special on an S1H. They shouldn’t if they have access to something better. But it is a fact, based on what NETFLIX has said, that sure...you can and we will accept it because X, Y, Z. So what is your whole point of this argument? Almost everything you have posted is to incite some kind of argument. No wonder people don’t stick around on this forum.

You have a strong opinion of what camera should and shouldn’t be used on a Netflix set and at what capacity. So how did you form that opinion?

Do you own or shoot with an ARRI or other Netflix approved camera?

I mean what do you expect? The camera is designed for lowlight sensitivity. It’s right there in the name and literature about it. All cameras have their faults. I do recall the S1H had horrible temporal noise issues. They are fixed now. Give Sony a break. My god. Csnt wait for the release hysteria to die so we can talk calmly and objectively about it all.

People who think the image out of the A7SIII, a $3500 mirrorless camera, isn’t very good or the skin tones are off are nitpicking the shit out of it. I feel sorry for you people. You will never be happy. Put everything in context. This is a fantastic release from Sony. They improved almost everything from the A7SII and kept the spirit of the A7S camera intact.

Hopefully @BTM_Pix‘s device is thermally sound.

And other people say it’s total trash still. Only thing it tells us for sure is it’s all subjective!

Regardless it sounds like some units have defective hardware. The overheating inconsistencies on the Sony are bad too. Clearly the manufactures don’t have FF mirrorless 4K totally figured out yet (or they are unwilling to give it to us).

We can have both, no? Something something about eating cake....😎

Yes, but at this point, if it had competent AF it would be the affordable cinema level camera for the those you tubers as well. Go back and look at the comments on PM’s videos when he used the 1DX..people lusting over having one so they could be “like him”. Not saying its right, just saying perceived image is part of the equation in selling products. It’s moments like these with flagship FF cameras from Panasonics direct competitors self-combusting on the interwebs, is exactly why they need someone out there trumpeting their reliable, workhorse, cameras. It’s marketing 101.

Clearly both of these cameras could do with a fan or heat sink setup of some kind. It makes them useless for serious production stuff and enourmously frustrating for everybody else.

Panasonic M43 and FF can coexist. I think its especially important, more than ever, to have the next GH camera absolutely let loose with specs and capabilities. It might hurt S1H sales...sure but I think only because the GH is so well respected at this point.

1) Unreliable AF. AF is the hot ticket item on any camera now. 2) The L-mount is new with big expensive lenses currently. 3) There isn’t some mega YouTube personality trumpeting the camera.

I disagree. I think there still is life in M43. The current releases from Sony and Canon underscore the fact that the majority of FF mirrorless cameras are not bulletproof for production work. Panasonic is slotted in between black magic and the higher end offferings from Canon/Nikon/Sony. I think they proved with the S1H that they made the right decision in form factor and including a fan and they have also proven they can deliver the image. S1H footage is beautiful. If they can close the gap with black magic while improving on their existing AF technology (or scrapping it for something new) then they offer something much different then black magic in well-built, weather sealed, reliable, camera bodies. Something BM struggles with. I think BM puts out an amazing image, but for the fact that I have to put my camera away for light weather conditions (not to mention their track record on reliability) BM doesn’t give me what I want. The biggest hurtle is convincing people the DoF and marginal lowlight increase (in most shooting conditions) is worth the trade for typically what M43 offers. A competent Peter McKinnon brand ambassador wouldn’t hurt either. Panasonic has a terrible track record with marketing and telling people about their products!

Damage control begins at 4:45. No one is sweeping the Sony overheating under the rug. It’s there in certain conditions. Much less so than the Canon.

Clearly they should stick to entry level DSLRs and ride their good name 🙃 This is another case of cripple hammer gone to far to protect a cinema line that is in another completely different market. When will they learn?

Now that Canon and Sony have played their video hand with the R5/6 and A7SIII (Sony still has a A7IV in their sleeves) respectively, the ball as been kicked—no absolutely belted—into Panasonic’s court. Panasonic has been absolutely silent either twirling their thumbs in worry or rubbing their hands in anticipation. Besides the very vague rumors is there anything more concrete out there about future products from them, wether MFT or FF? I can see Panasonic competing with the A7S fairly easily if they sort out their AF. It’s not a stretch seeing them deliver a MFT camera with oversampled 4K up to 120p quite easily. The Z-Cam E2M4 is doing 160FPS 4K at 13 stops DR on the same sensor Family as the GH5S/P4K. With a newer Sony STARVIS 4/3 sensor and upgraded internals with those ever so practical Panasonic focused design we may see a another leap mirrorless technology from them. Really hoping we will get some more info with @Andrew Reids upcoming interview with them.

So somehow the product defects were not caught in the final design and usage stage at Canon? Nope not buying it. They thought they could release this as is and get away with it. It didn’t work. You literally just need to turn the camera on and do absolutely nothing and see the overheating problem! Apparently Canon doesn’t even use their own cameras. They are probably desperately going back to one of the prototypes that incorporated proper heat management and then silently getting that camera into production. Further, the existence of that stupid Tilta cooling monstrosity tells us that Tilta at least knew about the overheating and designed a product for it. And they did it before the camera was even released! How long does it usually take to design something like that. 3 months minimum from conception to design to prototype to finalizing parts manufacturing. Probably longer. Something smells.

TEC are extremely inefficient in cooling. 10-15% efficient compared to compressor based cooling (ac, refrigerators). There is a reason this shit isn’t used to cool technology in PC for example. So say it does help with overheating. You need a battery to power it and big one at that. Its the law of thermodynamics. No way around it sorry to say. But go ahead. But the R5. Strap this cooler on the back and shoot away and see if you like taking your slick $4000 camera and turning it into so piece of junk Frankenstein machine.

GAS can be a bitch. You have a great camera in the S1H. Incredible underrated and overlooked because it doesn’t have headline grabbing AF. Beautiful image. My GH5S surprises me still and I enjoy filming with it always We can hope Panasonic surprises us and fixes those problems with GH6, S2, S2H or whatever they do.

From what I have seen you can pull back 3 stops overexposure without much problem. Expose for 18% grey and you have a lot of dynamic range, although noise in shadows so I guess overexposed a bit to kill the noise

Yes the tilta cooler is beyond ridiculous. Buy a sports car but then you need to cut a whole in the bonnet for a fan to drive it more than 20 miles down the road. Stupid.

Damn, imagine if that had ProRes RAW or BM RAW internal and didn’t need an external recorder.

Pre-order musical chairs! But who cares! Let people spend their money the way they want to. @Andrew Reid we need a new camera challenge to change things up around here.