MrSMW

Considered, especially having come from Fuji from the very beginning with their first mirrorless camera, the OG X100. Had that in 2011 when it first came out alongside a pair of Nikon D3S's paired with 24-70 and 70-200, all for stills and was using a D7000 for video. Went all in with the X Pro-1 when that came out and sold all the Nikon gear after 10+ years with them. Went through them all inc. XE1, XE2, XT1/2/3 and XH1. I didn't go past XT3 however which is where I finished with them after almost 10 years because they were no longer meeting my needs. They almost do again now. Almost... I have made a case as a business proposal for going back to Fuji, but it's not my best option. In fact it's not even my second best option, Canon is, but equal with my third choice, Sony. Pulled the trigger, but not with Fuji, though I could make it work as I could make any system work. Just not as well as well.

Actually not a bad practice and what I do with all my cameras. When I switched from Nikon DSLR to Fuji mirrorless in 2011/12, I was initially getting such bad battery life compared to what I was used to, I started this practice. When the internet was moaning about 150-200 frames shot on an X Pro-1, I was getting 1000+. It became a muscle memory habit thing very quickly and I have always done it ever since without ever having to think about it. Still the same today with my Panasonic’s and typically only change once per body, late on in a full day’s shoot towards the end of the day.

Throwing it in at the deep end today… Not had a chance to test it properly but no option as I need something for full ceremony & speeches today! I’m sure it will be fine… 🫣

Ah… I understood it that there was a crop with 4K 50/60p and one of the things I wish to avoid in any future camera system is a difference in crop shooting hybrid. It has grown to bother me with the S1H and S1R… I don’t mind a cropped sensor camera; M4/3 or APSC, but I want consistent focal lengths when shooting hybrid which is another reason I went with the OM-1.

This and why I have replaced it in my kit with an OM-1. It’s also replacing my ZV1 which overheated on the last 3 jobs. Plus, other than flipping to 8 bit, the S5 has a 30 min recording limit which caused me issues in several scenarios and the ZV1 couldn’t shoot 4K 50p. The S5 was borderline weight-wise on my Crane M3 gimbal but a new gimbal for next year will fix that as the OM-1 with the lens I have (12-40) is the same as the S5 with the 20-60. The R7 was a strong contender for the role, but for my needs, the OM-1 ticked more boxes and that R7 crop (4K 50p) put me off! ALL great bits of kit in isolation, it’s just what meets your needs best at the end of the day.

So many ways to skin this cat… I have C1 set for stills and a button configured for crop mode, C2 for 5k 25p p:p and C3 for 4k 50p. I just flick then between those three.

@Dave Maze have you tried batch running the files through something like DXO Pure Raw 2 (or Topaz)? Turns then into huge but vastly improved (the more noisy shots anyway) DNG’s that you can then import into your fave picture editor. I only got my OM-1 yesterday so haven’t had the chance but that’s what I will be doing as I do this with Lumix full-frame files already. I have only really taken it out of the box and attached the 12-40 lens and put it on to charge, but first impressions are I like the size & weight & ergos & build.

I can easily talk even more than I do already 😜

I stand to be corrected but I am pretty sure that other than the sensor, the S1R is basically the same as the S1 in terms of design, ergos, screens etc?

As I have been saying for some time, that 5k does indeed have something about it SOOC! If only it could be 5k 50p… I tried it at 30p and slowing it to 80% in post, but it has not been meeting my slomo needs…not that I really expected it to, but also too much flicker under many artificial lighting scenarios being EU. Obviously knew this also already, but trying to get what I need out of the camera. The 4k 50/60p despite being 8 bit is also better than I thought. Otherwise ditto everything Andrew said; the ibis is great, the AF better than you’d think, for stills fantastic and the sensor just magic. Ridiculous priced used bargain!

The flat profile is where it’s at I tell ya! The problem with this camera is there is so little out there and almost all of what there is has been over-cooked as so much on YouTube is.

No it’s pixel:pixel crop which for me is kind of fine and at the same time not fine. I don’t mind the 4:3 I can’t fault the image quality, but it’s doing my head in a bit shooting hybrid where the stills and video focal lengths are different by a factor of x1.5 so one more reason why I’m off elsewhere as soon as I can. I did try the L.neo actually and quite liked it in some ways but it’s an ‘acquired’ taste shall we say… There is at least one YouTube video by Luca Bona using this profile, but I think on the S5 or S1?

I heard that in some secret location, your OM-1 (voiced by Gerard Butler) is having a face off with 5000 undelivered preordered Nikon Z9’s…

That’s what I am working on right now… Canon ticked some boxes, but not enough and an R7 was part of that plan, but it’s not to be for me. Great detailed write up and big 👍 for taking the time.

A pair of them are my current workhorses for hybrid work. Along with an S1H and a currently disabled S5. I shoot both 8 bit 4K 50p and 10 bit 5k 25p with them and personally think that the 5k SOOC (flat profile) is some of the nicest footage I have seen. The AF is more than pretty decent other than a lack of reliability in forward tracking unless using f4-8 where it gets quite reliable, especially with native lenses, but these don’t have that much over Sigma. Two weaknesses for me: I wish the 5k was 50/60p 15 min recording limit I am sure I am not imagining it but there does seem to be something a bit more special coming from this sensor, especially in 5k mode and that must have something to do with it not being Sony? No Vlog but yes it does HLG, but as I’m more than happy with the Flat profile, not tried it.

I don’t think this is so crazy and am actually surprised no one is offering this service. Or maybe someone does, but I don’t know about it… I’d like to see the transplant of some modern digital gubbins into a Contax G2 body.

I always fancied trying one of their Go Pro mods because the issue I have always had with action cams is how wide they are.

I think it’s a good call actually. As you already said, you messed up a few things so I suspect if you went back and re-did the test, it would be a different result?

OM-1 Does the X have 4K 50p 10 bit…not sure, but regardless, I just wanted the most compact package possible. GH6 was out due to AF and I didn’t see any point in the APSC suspects of R7 and XH2s flavour as it’s all just getting slightly bigger and bulkier and I may as well then go the whole hog and FF. My self-imposed rule of thumb going forward is it all goes in one single 30 litre backpack; 2 bodies, 3 lenses, 1 drone, 1 tripod, on camera lighting and audio. No more lens swaps, no more multiple trips backwards and forwards from the car parked 1/4 mile from the church, before and after, on 40 degree C days etc etc etc. Honestly fatigued now with how destructive regarding creativity and simply having the right tool in my hand at any given time and…there’s rarely a good time to change, but if something actually is broken…and it is, got to fix it.

Button pushed, arrives Friday. I have 7 weddings left this season so going to give it a whirl for static full length ceremonies & speeches and then still on a tripod for all entrances & exits ie, static tracking stuff and then gimbal for those few occasions where I now use one. It’s replacing the ZV1 and S5 and the 20-60mm kit lens, so I am hoping to get the tracking of the little Sony, but with better quality (and 4K 50p instead of 4k 25p) in a compact package the same size & weight as the Lumix. The ZV1 has overheated 3x in a row with the long stuff and the S5 rear screen is now hanging off, so the timing is just about perfect to give this little beast a go. I can’t see it doing anything but shining in it’s role actually. The only thing I don’t like about it (so far) is the flip out side screen and I wish it had the GH6 style, but can’t have everything I suppose…

Ditto. It’s the one thing on this list that I couldn’t really do without now and has been one of those ‘game changer’ things they talk about. Tripod was slow, monopod faster but still not as quick and portable as my own two hands.

Yes, I’m taking with a pinch of salt some of the reviews etc, but I think for my needs, essentially as a static locked off B cam or good light, lightweight gimbal cam, plus personal travel/mountain hike camera, it should tick the boxes. I’m going to try it anyway and if it doesn’t work out, there’s always MBP 😜

Log: Hate working with it, hate grading it. Flat profile all the time with me and previously Eterna with XT3. I would like to give raw a try for certain things, but not all the time due to storage really. But otherwise Flat profile with a few manual tweaks and a light grade with Filmconvert Nitrate. IBIS: XT3 used to be tripod all the time and I actually prefer the completely locked off shot…but it’s not practical for my work, so IBIS it is. 10 bit: I don’t mind 8 bit and use it a lot with my S1R’s in 4k 50p, but trickier stuff like couples at sunset, 10 bit definitely shows it the way. AF: The only time I use it these days is for forward tracking and acquiring initial focus, otherwise manual. This is more because I don’t fully trust the Lumix AF and there are situations, important ones, where I need to trust it. My next system, whatever it is, must have great AF. I’d be up for a challenge but realistically, Jan soonest as my workload for the rest of the year is 🤪

I think I’m about to buy one… I thought it was off the agenda but I have pretty much decided I am going to get a Z9 next year unless anything else comes along that can match it’s spec as a long term keeper along with the Megadap adapter and the Tamron 35-150. There just isn’t anything else that even comes close for my needs without needing multiple bodies and lenses, - it just ticks every bloody box! I need to pair it with something that can shoot 4K 60p, 10 bit, internal, unlimited recording, great AF, compact and light for smaller gimbal work plus longer static stuff. OM-1 tops the bill for me. The S5 needs to go in for repair anyway and my previously trusty ZV1 has overheated on 3 jobs now so I have stopped using it and need something for the rest of the season, plus going forward. There’s little difference in size or weight (2g!!) with lenses, but it’s got good AF and from what I have seen, quite a neutral colour science that will match up nicely with almost anything without too much effort. There’s a few lenses I am not using either so together with the S5, most of the cost of the OM-1 14-40mm kit combo plus I’ll pick up the 17mm f1.8 for gimbal work. I’m going to lose a bit of low light capability I know, but having had a play with some gimbal work now, I’d like to develop that some more and after 25-30 jobs with L Mount, I can’t see any future for me with it sadly, for my needs. The image quality is stellar, but it’s requiring me to need too many bodies and lenses and it’s slowing me down and eating into my creativity. I cannot see the next gen S models hitting my needs and especially on the lens front. Fairly sure I won’t be getting a Z9 this year though due to lack of availability and I’d be lucky to pick one up even for my last job off the season (only 6 weeks away) and then it’s 6 months off, so no point!

FP options = Lumix 24-105mm f4 which has OIS Fotodiox adapter with any EF-L Mount lenses and there are both zooms and primes from at least Canon & Tamron with OIS. The Fotodiox adapter with built in ND is great so I’d look at pairing that with ‘your focal length ef Mount Canon or Tamron prime, or just going for the Lumix zoom?