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Gaston Shutters? Sounds like a character from Viz magazine... 😂

I'm just going with the free Sigma 45mm f2.8 I am getting as part of the deal with the Lumix S5 + 20-60mm. Actually, I am going to flip between these 2 lenses. With the Sigma prime, I will be using the combo just like a fixed prime lens compact for all my 'personal' work. For family trips, I'll use just the 20-60 as it has more flexibility and on holiday, I'd like that extra versatility for less serious use. I've also decided that I will use the FP + 20-60 at the widest end only, all day at weddings purely as a stills camera for those rare times I want a really wide, but also on the tripod with power bank and Rode Wireless Go for pure long form static video capture during ceremony & speeches. So kind of 4 uses out of 1 unit with the 2 lenses which is pretty cool.

They could call it the Fuji TeX-100 🙂 I'm off to buy the domain and soshal meedja accounts right now...

That is not so crazy... We already have several FF 'P&S' cameras well before 2020 from Sony & Leica notably. I've always fancied a FF 'P&S' but the only limitation for me was the built in lenses tended to be too wide and yes, I know you can crop in camera with some models and always crop in post with all, but it's not the same thing as having a longer lens that has more compression. So I'm buying my own version of a FF 'P&S', - the Sigma FP with 45mm f2.8 🙂 But MF in a 'P&S'? If anyone might do it, Fuji might... They have the MF tech and a slightly larger X100 style body could possibly do it... Whether they would or not is another matter and possibly the market is a bit too hybrid-orientated now for it to happen but who knows... As for this A7c, it might be interesting as a stills camera but it wouldn't fit into my needs anywhere, especially as I'm off to L Mount. It will be interesting at least to see what it's like after some hands on reviews etc.

Yes. Some have reported it as ND 1-8 but it's ND 2-8. For my requirements, I'd need 2x ND versions and 2x non-ND, so 4 adaptors and that kind of rules it out for me.

Yes, I'm interested in a 35mm f1.8 and 85mm f1.8 and then will do some testing and see whether I am happy switching to an APSC crop with the 85 or whether I just get something longer and retain the full frame. We shall see and in no rush as I will have the 20-60mm kit lens and Sigma 45mm to keep me entertained over the Winter. I've also seen quite a few tests now where shooting 4k 50p improved AF accuracy (good, because this is my default) and shooting fast shutter speeds improves it even further (which is also good because I do that also!) and as you say, there will probably be firmware tweaks that may just make it better anyway. For a few years I worked with Fuji and contrast detect AF (before PDAF arrived with the XT1 I think?) and have had a couple of other CAF cameras so aware of how they work and I don't shoot anything much above a moderate walking pace so never had any real issues. Except with the original X Pro1 on original firmware which couldn't capture a speeding snail.

I had the OSMO Action and it was great, but I just wasn't using it as I hoped to so sold it. But it was very good and I was coming from Go Pro previously.

The only issue I have with this built in ND filter is outdoors, great, but in low light... Well it would require a second adaptor with no ND for indoor/low light. But otherwise, a very interesting option and I'm at least considering it...

Well I have done an about turn which went from initially being interested in the S5 to less interested to moving to it as my primary stills and filming workhorse. In 20 years, I have only made one brand switch and that was 9 years ago from Nikon to Fuji. Now it's Fuji to Panasonic (S5) + Sigma (FP) and all being well, a pair of S5's. There's enough there to convince me it will suit my specific needs and do 'more' than my current Fuji system can do. Pre-ordered the S5 (just one to start with to make sure with my own tests it suits my needs) with the 20-60mm 'kit' lens for initial testing before relegating that lens to wide angle duties, plus the bonus of a free Sigma 45mm f2.8 which will be going on a used FP when I have the funds in a month or so to buy one. 'Holy Grail' camera? Nah... Canon R5 without heating issues and maybe even R6 are 'better' as is the Sony A7S3 and undoubtedly the A74 whenever that pops up. And maybe even the Nikon Z6S, but all things considered (and there are many things unique to each of us), I think both this camera and the entire 'L' system are going to suit my needs very well for the next few years.

Well sale and purchase buttons have all been pressed now. At least that is the sale button and courier collects today. Pre-order in for the first stage of my move to L Mount. I've had some fun (and some frustrations, especially in the early days) with Fuji, but the time for change has come.

And that has been my perpetual problem for many years causing me to adapt! Great lenses for photography, but less so for video with only a couple of choices and if you shoot a lot of low light AND want any real shallow DOF and retain AF, then... Plus for my personal needs, I don't think I'd have one in my hands before the end of March 2021 and I want to start my next season fully up to speed with all my gear. OK for me, a switch from XTanything to XH2 would not be too difficult but I don't like change full stop so avoid it if I can. The future of Panasonic or even the full RebeL Alliance is a slight concern, but I think they will be fine and I'm looking at S5 bodies as a min 3 year deal anyway so will have had my money's worth even if the whole pack of cards comes crashing down. I suspect it won't and the trio all bring something to the party.

Feel free to PM me or start a topic and happy to answer any questions so as not to pollute this thread any further!

Well I shoot roughly 60% stills and 40% video, so for me, somewhat obviously, a stills orientated camera is a must, but if I was shooting pure video, pretty sure I'd be shooting a dedicated video style camera and not compromising in certain areas with a hybrid.

@BTM_Pix THANKS and SUPERB! OK, I'm pretty much sold now on moving lock stock and 3 smoking barrels over to the L Mount Alliance. For this static stuff, I'll hook it up to my power bank and get an external SSD then. I don't think I need to go down the route of anything like an external monitor as my use here is very much; set up, focus lock, press record and what will be will be and all my clients know this and are advised in regard to what the optimal set up is and that's it's static and unmanned. Single FP + 2x S5 looks my immediate future and next few years. Thanks everyone for all your input, much appreciated.

OK, great, what I thought then! FF or APSC for stills = check. APSC at all times for 4k 50p = check. Just waiting on a quote for all my Fuji and other gear and then it's L Mount Alliance here we come. It's offering me the closest to my needs out of anyone and also at the best cost to change. Which is a bonus.

One other FP question... I think I am right in this, but need to confirm. So let's say I have my FP now and it's on a tripod with the 45mm f2.8 shooting 25p 4k...but it's not quite tight enough. Damn, I don't have another (longer) lens and can't move the tripod any closer. No problem, switch to APSC crop and hey presto, it's now a '67-68mm equivalent' focal length?! If so, fanfuckintastic, because that means I could lose both the Sigma 18-35mm and Tamron 45mm, because as much as I love them, the former especially is a bit of a weighty beast and both require adapters which just adds even more to the load, but being able to switch to an APSC crop and effectively increase my focal length would be perfect for my needs.

Right, S5 is back on my radar as a very viable option for a multitude of reasons I will not bore you with, but having been an APSC (Fuji) user in regard to mirrorless only, I have a very specific question... Panny states they are bringing out a series of f1.8 lenses in the 'near future'. I am reading that as being by Spring 2021 latest, but we will wait and see in that regard. My specific question however is as follows: I am a hybrid shooter. I currently have one body set for video and another body set for stills. I would like at a flick of a switch to alternate between two identical bodies with different lenses. Ideally to keep my kit as compact as possible, I'd be looking at a pair of S5's for hybrid use and a single Sigma FP for static video duty. Ignore the FP though, it's not part of this question. I shoot 4k 50p for filming/video purposes and wish to continue with that so in the case of the S5, that means shooting APSC crop. No problem, I do that already and actually prefer it because it gives me tighter framing which for my needs is preferable. So I am getting to it now 😉 Let's say I purchased the 24mm f1.8, the 35mm f1.8 and 85mm f1.8, at another flick of a switch, I could shoot these (stills) as either FF at those focal lengths, or APSC stills at equivalent 36/53/128mm yes? Call me tight...but actually it's not that, it's more a case of most compact kit with max flexibility and it's really only the 85mm I'd want to ideally shoot longer (at times), even if it means shooting APSC, because 85mm (FF) is not always long enough for my needs and an extra lens such as a 135mm, is more cost, more weight to carry around, more lens changes etc. The summary is I think most if not all FF mirrorless cameras allow you the choice of FF or APSC crop for stills, but worth asking the question before I make any major financial decisions. Let me know if I'm right because I am new to FF mirrorless so it's a bit of a learning curve. And I'm a bit thick.

I am...and I wouldn't be using any Leica M lenses. Nah... It's all a juggling act, - specific needs + budget mainly... I could 'upgrade' my XT3's to XT4's but even if I had the money now, I wouldn't because as things stand, when I come to upgrade that pair for my current work stills & filming needs, it will either be XH2 or Panasonic S5 and either Metabones focal reducer adapted on the Fuji, or Fotodiox adapted on the Lumix. The XT4 doesn't give me enough or really anything I need over XT3 and I much MUCH prefer the XT3 tilt screen. Otherwise I can't see how the FP would be able to meet my needs as a replacement. In fact I already know it can't, because for work needs of combined photography & filming at weddings, I need reliable AF because that reliable AF acts as another pair of hands and brain, ie, if one unit is on a freestanding mono right in front of me capturing couple walking towards me, I can be shooting stills at the same time. And by reliable AF, I don't necessarily mean stellar because of course the Canon and Sony kick it's arse in this regard, but it's actually quite good and fairly reliable with the Fringer Pro adapted glass I use. But the FP capturing 4k 25p on a tripod, manually focused, just speeches and ceremony, - well it should work pretty well for that and replace my 1" camcorder and I do wish to replace that as the quality in low light is...well a bit shit. For personal, I don't shoot kids or rabbits or airshows or anything that needs rabid AF. In fact I could shoot all my personal stuff quite happily manual focus and with the FP, may very well do just that. But I did think...just for a minute, "what if I really liked the FP, could I use it instead of XT3?" For my work needs, nah and at the same time, an XT3 doesn't encourage me to shoot personal stuff. To me it's just a tool. I like and respect what it can do and at this point in time and it's the right tool for me but it does not inspire me to go out and shoot. A Leica Q2 would, but I don't have the budget and it isn't dual purpose, ie, can't switch from being my personal stills camera to being a long form video camera which the FP can be. Ditto a few other compacts and quirkier cameras, - nothing quite fits the purpose.

The usual thing then... I have actually looked at it several times previously from just before it came out to a few months back but ended up dismissing it each time because I was looking at it as a hybrid replacement for my XT3s and in that regard, it did not and still does not work. For my needs. But as a static video unit at work and as a personal stills camera for considered work in my own time, a lot of boxes.

Absolutely. As you say, if Sony do not cock it up, as a hybrid pair especially, the former shooting video and the latter stills, has to be the best combo out there. If I’d had even a semi-decent year this year, it’s where I’d be headed for 2021 and sticking with for many years after...but it’s too much cashidos for me to switch. I do think that Nikon is going to have a really decent alternative with the Z6S and hope the company as a whole is not in trouble. We need serious players to give us choice and keep the competition on their toes.

1949 euros with 45mm f2.8 open box from Germany...

Not related to Cilla, but yes my surname is also Whitten. Always has been 😀

I actually prefer...at least at the moment, my APSC crop Fuji XT3's because of the extra 'reach' of the equivalent FF lenses. Such as my Sig 18-35 in 4k 50p crop is more like a 32-62mm lens yet still an f1.8 for light gathering purposes. If I had a need for wide(r) angle, I think I'd go FF though. For low light stuff, XT3 suits my needs more than well enough, at least in regard to video which is a bit more forgiving than stills. But other than that, for me it's not 'necessary'.

Are we related? Seriously. My surname is also Whitten! Otherwise found some decent prices from ebay Germany. Small external SSD may very well be an option for me as the ONLY time I will shoot video is statically, at weddings, ceremony & speeches only because I use XT3 for everything else and happy doing that. But we must be related...