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Ah well if it can do video, it surely must be able to do photos as dual video writing to cards is less rare? I'll check with the Catmeister...

Maybe I'm just being stupid, but I can't find the answer to the following and that is does the new Sony allow for dual slot recording in camera? I know the XT4 does (but my XT3 photo only) but ideally my next camera will be able to write internally both photo and video to 2 cards. Cheers

Needs quite a strong ND the wider open you shoot on a bright day! I've been using a variable Gobe, but it's not great at the stonger end... I was going to replace it with the Polar Pro, but because it now seems to have Peter McWotsits name on it by default...and I am sure I would be paying a premium for that unwanted 'privilege', so I'm looking at the Freewells that come in 1-5 and 6-9 flavours as a set which would be great for cloudy/indoor and sunny days respectively. But actually, right now, not spending anything as the way things stand, yes, shot a wedding last week, but that does not mean my next 4 spread over Sep & Oct will happen and if they do not, it's May 2021 and that could be; XH2, Z6s or A7Siii time... Or it might still be XT3 but right now, the new Sony has a lot of appeal for my specific needs...

400% @640 iso all the time unless I need to push the iso.

This would be impossible unless captured over a period of 10 days allowing for cool down times.

I think having both a Fringer and the new Metabones opens up a lot of options for a Fuji user because you can either have the equivalent FF field of view (more or less) plus one stop faster with the Meta, or switch to the Fringer with the same lens and extend FOV by +50-60% albeit with the existing aperture. If the lenses used are OIS, even happier days. So yes, the $649 Metabones seems like a pricey option for an adaptor, the options it opens up are quite considerable. The only problem with the new Meta right now is it's not easy to get hold of in Europe, but I'd like to get one ASAP to at least try. My 'budget' future as things stand might be continuing with my pair of XT3's with battery grips, getting a single Meta and flipping that as needed with my Fringer and using a couple of VC Tamron zooms., a total further expenditure of around 2k, but with existing stuff to sell that would cover the cost, ie, for the moment at least, skipping the XT4.

I didn’t get on with flog and use Classic Chrome SOOC which requires minimum grading. I used Eterna for the previous 2 years but fancied something even more SOOC with a distinctive look. In fact, I would not even call it grading but rather some exposure adjustments to maybe 25% of my footage. One of my settings is DR400 which means 640 iso min, highlights preserved at base (160) with shadows pushed (2 stops I guess?). It doesn’t have as much latitude as flog but then who is my client, what are they paying and where are they viewing...? I would like to give flog another go in the future but not with XT3 but a model that has a lut facility. The downside to shooting these film sims though is that if you blow the highlights, it’s game over as there is virtually zero capacity to recover!

Tilta are working on a solution.

With 4K, it chews through them VERY quickly. Stills less so and I comfortably get over 1000 frames out of one battery and use the battery grip anyway for around 4000 which is just a little over what I shoot at a wedding. So IMO, battery grip or power bank is a must. I reckon I’d use anywhere between 8-12 on a typical day (for video capture) If I was not using the power bank and I only shoot short clips. Just finished my first rough cut edit of last weeks wedding and relieved that after 10 months off, other than a couple of minor annoying factors, I’m happy with it. Annoying factors? Mostly ring rust/school boy errors such as during the vows, use manual focus you dummy and duh, you were still shooting f1.8 in bright sunlight against a blue sky and you wonder why there is a dark ND filter vignette. Amateur hour... But my own errors aside, the system didn’t miss a beat all day other than the camera would not turn on at one point so took out and reinserted battery and all was fine again. So much so, I’d rather keep and use my XT3’s with battery grips and use an OIS system than switch to XT4’s.

I had the cheapo ef 50mm f1.8 and it was a little noisy but produced really great results with the Fringer. Really interested in this new Metabones! I am a big fan of Tamron lenses and would love to see how the 24-70 f2.8 and 35-140 f2.8-4 work on Fuji because if ‘good enough’, I could keep my XT3’s for a few more years yet... That 35-140 especially. On XT3/4, focal length will be just a few mill longer but f2-2.8, in a relatively small, light and affordable lens? If the AF works as well as it does for my Fringer/Sigma 18-35 combo, I’m sold.

I think you misread the statement and it’s; ‘Last shipment during the next week of August’. ^This is a joke by the way^ 😉

If I was reviewing anything, I would be reporting my findings rather than my preconceived opinions. It might be shit. It might be great. Most things will be somewhere between the two, but I would want to report the facts rather than go on a pre-intentional trash campaign.

https://www.firehorsephotographyfrance.com/wedding-films/

Have you any full frame f2.8 zooms you could try it with (for stills and video AF) and report back?! Something I am very interested in right now. @Dustin re. XH1, sorry, I only think in 4K 60 terms as I do a lot of slowed down footage! A used XT3 with an 18-55 has to be one of the best value kits right now. It’s just the longer end that I use that kills it for my work, but otherwise superb.

XT3 you can switch between stills and video but you need to enable silent mode. Having said that, it’s FAR better having a switch like the XT4. Do you need to shoot 4K Dustin or is 1080 good enough because that would open up another Fuji contender, the XH1. Loved loved loved my XH1...but traded IBIS for 4K moving to XT3. If I had to make that same choice today, I’d pick IBIS for my specific needs. Very cheap are XH1’s...

I'm looking forward to all these arctic based movies.

I'm not a tinfoil hat kind of guy but I'd say that is what is going on behind the scenes. Has to be... Yes, a few got their pre-orders, but probably because the brakes weren't applied soon enough. Even if it's just some minor components, materials, pastes, software etc, I bet they are burning the candle at both ends and the middle at Canon right now. They might get away with it if they can even half the issue...

Then camera companies can expect to go the way of the dodo because ultimately if you shaft people long enough, they turn around and say, "well fuck you matey". The simple reality is cameras are being sold in increasingly lower numbers year on year directly in comparison to how phone tech improves year on year. We are heading towards 'phones'...or perhaps we will need to start calling them 'general purpose devices' or something shortly (if not already) that can take on the current crop of perhaps not dedicated cine cameras, but many hybrids. It's evolve or die. Serve the market or die. You can only ignore the market for so long or die. I couldn't replace my current work cameras with phones in anything but an emergency...but we are not far off now. There will be a market for dedicated cine cameras for a longer time yet, but that market will be tiny compared to global camera sales to the general public and we'd probably end up with just 2-3 main rivals within the next few years.

I use 150mb/s 64GB, but will be switching to 256GB next year as I can fill a set of 2 quite easily so the next size up (128GB) makes no sense to me. But making do this year as the spec of the XH2 is as yet unknown and may not even be the camera(s) I go for to replace these XT3's. If I even replace my XT3's... The 16mm f1.4 and 35mm f1.4 lenses are both superb bits of glass. The 35 was not a focal length I really used so only had it briefly when it first came out and I have no real need for a fast prime preferring to use a FF equivalent focal length of around 30-80mm (which my Sigma & Tamron cover when all the maths has been done for APSC 4k crop). Never had the GH5 and sure it's a fine beast for video though some will argue that the output of the XT3/4 is superior. I couldn't use one for my stills work or any 4/3rds sensor. It's not sensor snobbery, - I tried previously with a pair of Olympus and nah, it's a step behind APSC which itself is arguably a step behind full frame, but for me is the sweet spot (APSC) for both video and stills in one system. At this time. Had the Ninja V. Sent it back. 2 reasons: Reason 01: Couldn't get 4k to record to it due to cable issues. Gave up on that front but had I worked that one out... Reason 02: It would make me look like a videographer as would a shotgun mic on the hotshoe. Not a single person has clocked to date I'm shooting hybrid, - they all think it's just stills. Even the clients forget at times. Guests never know, even on the monopod. Even Uncle Bob's think the silver XT3 on the monopod is a film camera. It all depends on your own needs. I would like to ideally shoot a 2 camera, 2 lens system, one unit set up for video and one for stills, freehand. I am doing that now except for the freehand bit. I can actually shoot the Tamron handheld as it has VC, Tamron's version of OIS, but not the Sigma. XT4 would fix that, but no money this year, new batteries, hate the screen, yada yada yada, - there is always a compromise!

I honestly have no idea what your machine will handle, - I'm a PC guy and not very techy! I use Premiere and can tell you straight away that if I even try importing h.265, it just says, "err, no, I don't think so sunshine", so the evening before I am going to start a video edit, I batch convert the whole lot to Pro Res overnight. I don't think you have to link up 4+gb files anymore? I think an early firmware fixed that? Re. the Fringer, mine is a first edition model and it's a funny one, - I think it works BETTER for video AF than anything native that I have used, but is not as good as native glass for stills. Go figure that one, but I'm not complaining as I like my f1.8 glass for video! Alternatives might be...and it's not cheap, but I'd really like to give it a whirl, is the new Metabones ef to X mount 0.71x focal reducer. I'd like to give that a go with something like the Tamron 24-70mm f2.8 and 35-150mm f2.8-4, because if the AF works well for stills and video, I'd use that pair on a pair of XH2's. If that body actually does appear and they don't screw it up... Actually, both of those lenses being OIS, they could work pretty well on an XT3 which has the far superior screen to the XT4 and with a grip, about the same battery power. Nikon Z6 would be my second choice if I was happy with 1080 internally or using an external monitor/recorder for 4k. Beyond that, nothing else that interests me right now in this kind of price bracket (with the Z6 being not that much more than the Fuji). Yes, there are various Sony offerings, but anything pre-new boy doesn't interest me. Canon EOS R if you don't mind the crop? Panasonic G9 not to be overlooked! I buy most of my kit used these days and paid £900 a few weeks ago for a dealer XT3. Codec/colour science: That's a moot question... As a Sony user you will be more familiar with it but I'll stick my neck out and say that the XT3 video output is nicer/better, based on no other opinion than my own 🙂

I have not had any of that model range Sony's but do use (I can say do, as I had a wedding last week) the XT3 as my principal workhorse in 2020 and did throughout 2019. I am more than happy with it and use it as follows: On a free-standing (Sirui) monopod with Anker powerbank, Fringer Pro adapter, autofocus, Sigma 18-35mm f1.8 and Tamron 45mm f1.8, 4k 60p internal, Eterna last year, Classic Chrome this year. Re. lenses, I don't much care for any of Fuji's lenses for video but would rank them roughly as follows: 16-55mm f2.8 the best followed by 18-55mm f2.8-4, (though this latter lens is a bit slow for me) and 16-80mm f4 (ditto, but outdoors and at the longer end, pretty good). The f2's, but they can pulse a bit using AF, especially the 35mm f2. The fast 1.4's and 1.2 are awful for AF. I should add that I use my XT3's for 'hybrid', but have one set up purely for video and one for stills and rate them as excellent for both. I tend to shoot up to 6400 iso max. Criticisms? Of the actual XT3, nothing really other than I prefer the XH1 form factor and would like the IBIS and bigger battery from the XT4 (all of which might be an XH2 in 2021) because I could then ditch the monopod and Anker battery pack for all but 2-3 minutes of a typical 15 hour shoot day. I also might switch to flog on an XH2 but working in super-bright sunlight as I do in SW France without an external monitor etc it currently is not an option for me. Gimbal? Tried a Ronin S and then a Weebill lab. Sent both back, - gimbal stylee just isn't for me. I hope that helps.

Other than investment, I'm not really sure why anyone has brand loyalty. I am well aware that some people just buy another BMW every time because, "it's the best", but every time I wished to upgrade my 'whatever', I'd at least take a look around and see what else is out there as established benchmarks do change. Now I can understand if you have a ton of glass etc and are invested in a system and/or because you are super-familiar with it, but blindly sticking with something just because of a sticker it has on it, that's where I personally draw the line. I started out 20 years ago with Nikon because we'd used Nikon at college and university and because it was not Canon. I was prejudiced against Canon in those days and until fairly recent years actually, just because it was Canon. I then moved to Fuji 8-9 years ago and looking back, it was a premature move and I got the results I did despite, not because of the tools. But in this last couple of years, my mindset has become, 'best tool for the job' or rather, 'least compromised' because my ideal does not yet exist and I do not give two shits who makes it. Right now, if I was investing in a system today, it would be S1H for video in one body and S1 the other for stills. Except for that damned AF issue. How big an issue it is, I'd have to test and living in rural South West France, that is not such and easy thing to do. So I can't invest in this system after all to Panasonic's loss. The size and cost also puts me off a bit but those 2 compromises are not deal-breakers for me. Canon just dropped the ball and there are currently too many questions. Come Spring 2021, things may be different. Had the thing got some kind of cooling like the S1H, it would probably be my investment for 2021 and going forward. The Sony A7Siii for video is growing on me and paired for stills with possibly the next A74, could be a contender. I've been a guilty of being a bit prejudiced against Sony for a while and that is partly based on some use because I found them a bit soulless. But the new boy is growing on me for my needs. I would have invested in the Nikon Z6 system in the Spring of this year but for 2 factors; no 4k 60p 10 bit internal and Covid-2020. Fuji excites me the most for what an XH2 could be...but that is the big question, - what it could be because if it isn't right and I suspect the next Z6s will be, I shall almost certainly go there. But back to that original question which was did Canon market the R5 as a pro camera? For sure and the price only backed that up. There is absolutely no question in my mind that this was intended as a pro hybrid machine and in it's current state, it 100% is not. Unless you are prepared to make excuses for it. Is it useable? Of course, under certain circumstances using only a limited part of it's spec but like the guy that buys the Ferrari and never takes it to a track day, - what's the point?

Well I only shoot 4k so I can punch in, level etc in post, but otherwise export at 1080 and NO ONE has ever asked for a 4k version. I once made a 4k version and put it on-line, but it was just a massive amount of gb's, so... But unprofessional to shoot a wedding on an R5 at this time? Maybe... I wouldn't, but it's good to have these beta testers out there 🤩

Exactly what Canon knew or intended, I have no idea, but pretty sure it wasn’t what has unfolded over the last couple of weeks. I have never owned a Canon before but a pairing of R5 or R6 with a couple of lenses ie, a serious investment was on the cards for 2021. In it’s current state, zero chance. They stand a good chance of going the same way as Olympus if they do not change the way they operate. It’s just a bizarre situation and unless they can find an in-house fix for the overheating, Sony’s A74 will put the Canon siblings to sleep, shut their coffin lid and bury them 6 feet under. And then there is still Nikon and Fuji waiting in the wings and even Panasonic if they had half a brain would rush out phase detect AF. But most of the known world is either broken or nuts right now so who knows what anyone will do, but somebody please get it right. And that’s the thing...I don’t think anyone expects utter perfection that can never be beaten, but instead we just want an uncompromised hybrid that doesn’t have at least one glaring issue.

I like my iPhone 8 Plus and it was a big upgrade from the 7. The stabilisation is really good. I never use it for anything but day to day holiday snaps or video though, but if everything got destroyed in a freak accident, I’d whip it out at a wedding for sure.