MrSMW

Had one, sold it in favour of something faster. Sold the something faster and bought a pair of used 20-60’s to be my video workhorses. The reality is I either work in good light and don’t use these things any faster than f5.6, or I light the scene, so in either scenario, plenty fast enough for me. Also, 20mm is more than wide enough as is 60mm long enough because in my bag, is a 70-200 f4 for those scenarios when 60 really is not enough reach. They are really good ‘kit’ lenses. I wish they were constant aperture but then they’d be bigger, heavier and much more expensive.

Also, certain lenses with the native zooms having the best Af performance. Sigma etc lenses less so… Best practice for me with that system was to use Af to acquire focus and then flip to manual on the lens. These cameras are utter trash for tracking forward motion a lot of the time. Closing down the aperture (such as shooting f8 instead of f2.8 for instance) helps as doing being in S35 mode which offers better Af than full frame modes. Jeez, it’s coming back to me now how much pissing about there was with the OG S5 😂

S5 Af was nowhere near the best at the time, even less so now and was never reliable. Ditto S1/S1R/S1H. Good enough in most scenarios yes, but never reliable. I cannot remember my settings now but they were based on a lot of research, trial and error and combos of the type of Af area selected, such as oval, wide etc and then +/- the stickiness etc. S5ii much better being PDAF and I know you mentioned cost, but if you can at any time move to a user one, it’s well worth it.

5ii owner more than up for it 🫡

Still gets me every time… I’m always thinking, “can you not see there’s a shotgun mic on the top of my camera?” (although I swapped my dead cat for a live foam), but apparently not! Maybe I need to rig it out over my shoulder and employ someone to walk around with a boom mic overhead? I’d look properly pro then.

I should add, not all at the same time! For instance, I don’t fly the drone whilst doing anything else, though I will have 3x video cameras running while shooting stills. Lighting is always 2 big or 2 small or just 1 of either and very occasionally 3, but never 4 to the best of my memory…

Yes. Like learning to juggle going from 3 to 4 to 5 to 6 to 7 to 8 to 9 to teacups & saucers to full Cirque du Soleil chainsaws, ie, you have to both work up to it and work at it. 4 cameras 1 drone 3 tripods 2 large light stands with lights 2 small light stands with lights 6+ audio devices Full photo and video, every event https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=it's+a+kind+of+magic+line+from+highlander&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:76d8ff54,vid:inHv2y8QCbM,st:0

I have 2x identical, tripod based set ups with S5ii's. I say 'identical', but temporarily they are not as the second RODE WG2 I ordered, the receiving unit turned up DOA, but as soon as that is replaced, I will have 2x identical set ups. Identical except I can swap out one of the 20-60mm zooms for the 70-200 f4 if I feel the need, but exceptional circumstance only such as a church wedding with no side aisle so stuck at the back. That covers off ceremonies and speeches, visual and audio so my third run & gun unit during those chapters is just that, - roaming about and the 28-70 is just fine for that. And size & weight, even with the minimalist cage and side handle...I forgot about...because I forgot about it...but have now remembered...makes me sway even more back towards a third S5ii which in it's new incarnation will NOT have the cage it previously had, nor the side handle and nor probably the RODE micro. If I am being honest, whilst the wooden side handle DID add to the ergos, it was more because it looked cool and the cage was a necessity for this vanity. The Rode Micro? Having a mic on the camera 'told' people this was a video unit. You'd think anyway. In over 90% of cases, folks think I'm taking pics not video and in most cases when they have been standing there staring at the camera and grinning like buffoons, do I tell them it's a video and then they starting 'acting'. So back to a bare bones S5ii with just lens, it's actually less size & weight and more low-key than the S9 in it's semi-rigged status. I think I just talked myself into cancelling my preorder...

I disagree. I think it's meant to be exactly what it is. The issue is the internet is full of folks with opinions... No EVF? It's not intended for EVF shooters. Personally, I NEVER use the EVF on any camera and have not for years, whether that be stills or video. Even in super-bright sunlight, I can at least see the waveform monitor and otherwise trust the AF. Simply a non-issue. To me. Lack of mechanical shutter. We can debate that one and personally, I WOULD have preferred it if it had one, but hey ho. Cold not hot shoe. Meh, don't care. I don't shoot flash either and have not done so for even longer than I have not used an EVF so again, for my use, non-issue. Single card slot. Supposedly that is the compromise in keeping the same size as the S5ii battery and the camera the size it is. IMO, I would have preferred a slight grip with the extra size used to house a second card slot. This is my only real criticism of this camera, but not a deal breaker. 10 or 15 minute record limit. Sorry, but that one is a complete 1000% non-issue. For anyone requiring longer, just get a more suitable camera such as the S5ii which used 'like new', is basically the same price. And ticks all of the above boxes. And having said all that, I am actually debating myself now why I don't trade my S1H for a third S5ii... The options are: GH7, S9, S5ii and S1H. The pros and cons are: (for me/my needs) GH7 = whole new eco system for a single camera plus 2 lenses, costs ball park €6k. Not happening. S9 Pros = smallest, lightest, full frame 6k 30p open gate. Cons = single card slot. Costs €1700 with cage S5ii Pros = 3rd identical camera in my line up, non of the cons of the S9 and compared with S9 with cage, little difference in size and weight (though the S9 does just still, ooh err missus, edge it). Cons = slightly bigger and heavier than the S9 with cage. Costs €1600 S1H = Own it, best image quality of the bunch (poss due to the OLPF). Cons = biggest, heaviest, oldest, slowest, AF worst, IBIS worst and trade in money is a bit shite. Costs €fuck all Heart says S9. Head says cancel preorder and just get another S5ii.

Now if you'd asked "how many bananas encased in pastry?" I could have answered because it's 3.14

Nah 😜

One where the viewer does not consider either. If I am viewing and immediately think, “that looks sharp”, or “this looks soft”, it has already been overcooked. Something that REALLY bothers me in any movie or TV show, is if I can see the production. Bad acting and poor dialogue are one thing, but I notice more and more these days, anything where I can see what’s going on behind the scenes. I watched Nomadland for the first time yesterday evening and my overall thoughts were: I enjoyed it and thought it a good movie. The filmmaking process did not jar. There was probably a little too much overuse of sunsets in too many scenes. The use of non-actors in most of the roles was a bit too obvious and some of the characters as a result were less ‘real’ because of that…but this and it’s ’worthiness’ is probably why it won 3 Oscars. But whether it was soft or sharp or both or neither, at times or not, I could not tell you. If I had noticed either it would have been a distraction. Fortunately, it had zero slow motion, or anamorphic bending of the edges, or blue flares. Thankfuckfully.

I think the simple truth in my case is I started using it from the start when it was less of a thing, in order to separate myself from the herd. It became a default through laziness and a lack of creativity that then became a habit. Like any habit, it was not easy to break but once I had…which was fairly recently, I now find it jarring and one of those ‘how could I not see this before?’ moments. And that was just 50p slowed to 50%. The thought of super slo mo from shooting 100fps or more, even back when the above was a default for me, I find too extreme to the point of being ridiculous. I blame Michael Bay.

Some event shooters might want it, but waaaaaay too slow mo for my tastes and I have been increasingly moving away from any form of slow mo at all. It can have it’s place but I’m personally tired of it.

Probably… Plenty of cameras only have one card slot. There was no back up at all when we shot film (other than it was maybe 10 rolls of film over a day). I just stuck my current S1H rig including VND and Spider Holster plate and it came in at 1.75kg so slightly higher than I thought. S9 with cage and same lens will be just under 1kg so quite a big difference and the size/weight combo above a certain output quality (that the S1H and S9 are both well above) is a priority for me. Plus the better AF. Convinced myself, I’ll at least give the S9 a chance.

Nope and can’t envisage any scenario why I ever would.

I decided on the S9 with Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 as my compact ‘compromise’, but the GH7 with the pairing of 10-25 (indoors) and 25-50 (outdoors) would actually be a preference other than for 2 factors. Size & weight of each combo, the M4/3 option being approx 1.5x the size & weight, plus having to carry that option lens and Cost. The S9 I think is €1600 and I already have the lens but 3 M4/3 items, even used for the lenses, would run me pushing €6k. Somewhat reluctantly, I had to say no to that option, but hey ho. Now slightly on the fence whether I should even change my S1H for the S9… The S9 is the smaller & lighter option paired with the Sigma 28-70, but the single card slot is a slight concern. Only ever had one SD card have a problem and that was at least 12+ years, but it’s something every pro needs to consider. The S1H package compared with the GH7 + 10-25 or 25-50 is around the same weight, but not as wide or as long, but flipping to S35 mode takes it up to an equivalent 105mm. The other factor to consider is the S1H is bullet proof, I have 4 batteries for it. And I own it, so costs exactly €0 🤑 But all that said and done, if it wasn’t for the financial part of the equation, O think I’d go for the GH7 and that pair of fast zooms.

Which is great for anyone interested in that but I’ve never shot above 50/60p in my life. And never will.

I’m not sure what the IBIS is like on the GH5 but one of the key reasons (the other being to crop up, down or just in within the full frame of what is available) is AF for the social media/content creator crowd…which none of the GH series has until the GH7. And the GH7 is a bit overkill for that crowd so step forward the S9? Smaller, lighter, full frame 6k OG goodness. Most of the GH line kill it as a more serious filmmakers tool though… I’d like to see a sequel to The Creator shot on the S9 instead of the FX3. Could ‘easily’ be done!

Hmmm 🤔 I’d like to use my Time Machine to go visit that age for sure and see someone like George Melieres at work, but as a hybrid event photographer working in 2024, I suspect my tools of choice have a few advantages over his… 16fps stop motion is not something my clients book me for 😂

That was a very nice picture, to my eyes at least. If only every day was overcast though, - limited DR to deal with!

I think the nicest footage out of any Lumix camera was the 5k 30p from the S1R. That thing has a completely different sensor to the rest of the S1/S5 lineup. There was just something about it…

Pretty sure it’s 4:3? At least S5ii anyway… Could be an option and I will have to take a look but when I tried the the 6k last year, I really liked the result. The only reason I did not stick with it was slow mo, but I have finally given that up in order to become a (more) serious filmmaker 😉

Indeed. As above, for videographers, the specs have been there for a few years now re. sensors etc and it’s more the other stuff such as stabilisation and potential of in camera VND’s etc that interests me. For photographers, even longer. Lenses, I think there’s still a lot more scope with faster and more compact options being my interest. My holy grail is the max performance out of the smallest units, bodies and lenses. Stuff such as the Sigma FP, the Lumix S9 and for stills, the Sony A7RV and compact zooms such as Sigma’s 28-70mm f2.8 and Tamron’s 28-75mm f2.8. These combos for me are ‘peak camera’ in almost every way so for anything to come in the future, there’s nothing I actually need or even want. But stuff such as even better IBIS, intended VND, greater DR etc are all welcome.

Need to have a play myself as I’ve just gone back to shooting 6k 30p that I dabbled with briefly last year, from the mix of 4k 25p FF and 4k 50p cropped I mostly use. I do prefer the footage from the S1H over the S5ii but different sensor isn’t it and of course has an OLPF. I always have a 1/8th mist on my lenses as I find that reduces the contrast and softens in a very subtle manner the sharper detail/digital harshness? I don’t even have the sharpening turned down. Maybe it’s just my taste, but as much as I don’t like or want an overly sharpened digital video looking image, I also don’t want a soft one as it’s easier to soften than it is to sharpen. But 6k 30p 3:2 open gate for me going forward simply so I can maximise my new social media vertical videos and have the framing turned on as 9:16 so I’m shooting for it as much as I am for the main event which goes out at 16:9. I do like a wider more ‘cinematic’ crop such as 1:85 and 2:39 but the reality these days is screen real estate on a phone so those are my ratios; 16:9 and 9:16