MrSMW

Or they won’t give a flying fcuk as so many/most big corps do not. The thing is, we think as individuals or small businesses where things like customer service are important. The big boys do not. I don’t hate them but rather just accept that is the way of things though I will try and avoid such situations if possible. Except Amazon because it’s just too convenient 😱😂

Indeed. I came very close to getting one for video use and using OM-1’s for stills so I could share native (mount) lenses. The lack of AF was the sole deal-breaker with that equation. Tried the OM-1 and for stills it was good but hated the video. Together they would have made a great combo.

Speaking of baking in LUTS, I am wondering/hoping that the S1H might get a firmware update to do this as the new S5ii can do. That would make my workflow a whole lot easier and as I only really have one client to please (me) regarding grading, would be useful.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh, camera change! Nothing new, just going back to my old (used) set up. I had just purchased another S1H to go with the one I already had, plus an S5ii...and was in the process of selling my pair of S1R's but... The 'new' S1H has some issues so is going back and after 2 jobs this season, realised 4 cameras with the lenses available in L Mount, is better than 3 cameras. Oh well, back to what works because as they say, if it ain't broke... The only system I can do a 3 camera set up is Sony + Tamron, but then I'd have to make a YouTube video, "Why I Switched".

Not that daft an idea… In 30+ Celsius direct Summer sun when a camera is going to be on a tripod for say 30+ minutes, I often drape a white cloth over it simply to avoid some of that direct sun heat. Otherwise, working typically May-Sep in mostly SW France in mostly 30+ Celsius, absolutely no way I will ever work with a camera without a fan ever again as every single one to date, HAS overheated mid job. If I was a Sony shooter, I’d have no problem using this new kid on a gimbal for limited use…but then why when Sony offer much cheaper alternatives that would do that job as equally well

I have it yes and not 100% sure of the answer… It’s packed up right now as I am heading off to my second job of the year in a short while but I think so… I’m only shooting it 4k 50p and just edited 1 job with it that had a lot of vertical architecture in the background and it just looked ‘normal’? My tech skills go as far as: A: Does it look right? B: Did it do what I needed it to do? The only changes I am making between this next job and the first is whacking the sharpening down to -5. Because I forgot to do that when setting it up for the first time. Otherwise the only thing I have noticed is the colour difference between it and the S1H. The S1H is just better. Define better? See A: & B: above 👆

Ah… Slightiy surprising then as Tamron tend to have more built in OIS or VC as they call it, than most. I would also rather have it and maybe if they had gone constant f2.8, it would have had it? Anyway, it doesn’t so… The Samyang is either a blatant rip off or perhaps they were developed together behind the scenes? The Samyang is a whole lot cheaper though!

IBIS plus many recent Sony cameras have Catalyst

Same here regarding 35mm. Well actually I prefer 28mm these days as it gives me a little more wriggle room, but I could live with 35. In my DSLR days, the 24-70 on one body and 70-200 on another was the staple of us wedding photography types, but I haven’t had one or anything longer than 150mm in a decade. Do I want one? Well yes and no… Yes as in principle but no as in every current offering is too big and heavy. Well full frame or Fujis 50-140 crop equivalent. Even any standard 24-70 is too much for my tastes these days but when Sigma popped out the 28-70 I was all over that. Optically virtually indistinguishable, Sigmas 18-50mm apsc lens is tiny and incredible really with its 27-75mm FF equivalent. I really do hope they come out with a 70-200 version of the 28-70, ie smaller and more compact than anything else (FF) on the market, but I would without a single thought, give them up for a single 35-150 if it was available in L Mount and no slower than f2.8 I have been tempted over the last 12 months or so to switch to Sony just so I could use the Tamron 35-150 for all outdoor work as my one and done. Coupled with the 20-40 for indoor is a perfect 1 body + 2 lens combo for me whereas 24-70 plus 70-200 is a 2 body only option.

They also make those little AF cine lenses don’t they? E Mount definitely has the most interesting lens options!

Actually, that is not a bad idea! I’m not going to go buy a new camera just to do this, but next time I do, I might just look at the dollar price and if it makes sense, go do that, dump the packaging, use it, bring it back. 👍

I wish Sigma would come out with something like this for L, F and N Mount as well as the usual E because many of us non-Sony users are crying out for a lens like this. In fact, if anything, scrap the f2 aspect which is only available something like 35-40mm and just make it a constant aperture f2.8 so maybe a little smaller and lighter… And internal zoom if possible… E Mount certainly has the most exciting glass (for me) right now, especially Tamron with their zooms.

Really? Compared with ‘The Latest Sony’, yeah, not in that league, but it’s not too shabby! But yes it’s a better image than the S5ii. In fact it’s better in every way other than AF or if size & weight are a priority. And it’s cheaper! I bought another a couple of weeks back, it’s that good. I use its AF all the time, but mainly to acquire focus in the first place and then flip to manual with the switches on the side of the lens that Sigma provides along with manual aperture control 🙌 I do have a need for reliable AF every now and again and the S5ii takes care of that, but at a pinch, even the S1H’s tracking is not bad if you use a few tricks…

Only one ‘latest & greatest’ in my current arsenal and that is the S5ii for the AF ya know. The rest, bought used, a pair of S1H’s, though the latest has a sticky wheel so I may trade it back for one of my (also bought used) S1R’s that have not yet reached the no point of return regarding their sale… Speaking of ‘latest & greatest’, I am ‘interested’ to see what L Mount produces FF next, whether that be Leica, Sigma or old Pannyboy himself, but not ‘waiting’ on anything. Good to see you back @kye I was wondering where you’d gone…

70-200 or can of oil?

What has Matt got in his pockets? 😂

S1H + Sigma 24-70mm f2.8 if you don’t mind a bit of size & weight, otherwise S5 + Sigma 28-70mm f2.8 for something more compact, plus costs less. The jury seems to be still at lunch re. image quality of the newer S5ii and I have not done enough work with mine yet to comment…though I suspect I will see zero difference.

But none of these lenses are available in RF Mount, only; L, E and some of their stuff in X and N? The recent Samyang AF cine lenses look good. I don’t imagine they are the equal of ‘proper’ cine glass, but for say a wedding hack like myself with pretensions of grandeur, I’d give them a look. But then they are only available for Sony I believe so as an L Mount Luvvie, I’m out of luck there.

Buy from somewhere like MPB where you have a warranty plus if it’s not as advertised, you can send it back on their dollar. However, you can just send stuff back within I think 2 weeks, but at your own expense. The only thing about MPB that I do not like is that they are so slooooooow to evaluate gear you send them. I have had up to a month before which I think is far too long.

The 17mm f4 they can keep. Already have the excellent 16-28mm f2.8 so… The new APSC lens looks good as are it’s existing brethren. I will pick up the 50mm f2 however. The ‘I’ series Contemporary lenses are IMO the sweet spot of lenses along with a few of Tamron’s offerings. Tried the f1.4 Art’s and they are just too big and heavy for my tastes. Lumix’s own f1.8’s are just the most boring set of lenses ever created, both to look at and regarding the results they produce. These ‘i’ Series however, as above, the sweet spot for me in terms of looks, size, weight and of course results/rendering and regarding the latter, I’d call it ‘classic’, ie, somewhere between ‘vintage’ and ‘modern’. Some folks reckon they are a bit too sharp and clinical but I disagree, especially if you shoot them with a mild diffusion filter that just takes off that digital edge. I’d just like them to produce a compact 70-200 f2.8 or even something interesting like Tamron’s 35-150 f2/2.8. I would not say no to compact 50-150 f2.8 for instance… Sigma and Tamron IMO easily make the best lenses that I am interested in for work purposes.

I have the Sigma 18-50mm f2.8 welded to my S5ii because it makes for a superb lightweight, autofocus 4k 50p beast. The focal length works for me here with 27-75 FF equivalent being just about perfect for my needs. The pairing also live on the gimbal which itself spends most of it's time, on a lightweight but full-sized tripod rather than the dinky tabletop thing they tend to come with. I like the fact that it's not faster than f2.8 also because that's just about a perfect DOF for the main use I have for this set up which is; longer static stuff (ceremonies and speeches at weddings), entrances and exits (tracking) plus couple walking gimbal stuff. But if Lumix did not have cropped 4k 50/60p, I probably would use a FF lens instead. Image quality-wise though, I can't see any difference but as the S5ii only shoots 4k 50p in S35, it makes sense to have the smallest and lightest lens.

We should meet up some time and do a photo walk or something now that I live only 2 hours away from Paris by train. I was there last weekend actually, but family stuff for a few days. I didn't know about the Nikon place/event, - could be interesting even though I have not been a Nikon shooter in over a decade now.

Same as it’s always been and something I have never understood because surely any company, large or small, is going to maintain loyalty by looking after their existing customers which is cheaper than chasing new ones. I have never understood this mentality 🤔 When it comes to the camera industry, certain folks such as Canon and Leica seem to have a lot of brand loyalty from their older fan base as does Nikon just because of their perceived established history. Fuji has developed a certain cache in recent years due to their product, their firmware upgrades and the whole vintage/retro/funky slight underdog vibe. Panasonic have some brand loyalty due to their quality but almost near fuck all community recently, (had some with the GH cameras but limited with full frame) though that seems to be coming back a bit with the S5ii as many of last weeks Sony fan club have jumped on Lumix this week. Sony is the wunderkind on the block that seems to attract the youngest element (along with Fuji) but seems to have the most flip floppers who seem to dip in and out of the brand all the time, but seem to be giving with one hand (inovation) but withholding on the other a la Canon in order to protect sales of other lines. Basically I don’t give a single one of them a pass and not a single one of them earns my loyalty as a brand. I simply choose and use what is the least compromised option, within my budget, for my needs.

Exactly. Anything can have all the paper specs in the world but if when you step outside your front door… Or even remain on your couch like Dan 🤔 I’m all for small, light and ingenious and I am well aware of what/who the target market is, but there are plenty of other options sooooo much better than this. Who would it work for? C/casual cam for someone who can say, “OKfuckit” and flip over to their FX30 in under 10 seconds when it shuts down. I can see a place for it and some of it’s features are pretty funky, but I think what most of us are mainly criticising is it’s not going to be a reliable sole camera for anyone that is working I guess. The ZV1 was great but it had that problem most small cameras suffer from, near zero thermal management. Mine overheated too many times so it had to go. But then I probably should not have been using it for what I was using it for! 🤪

Sony not offering firmware updates doesn’t bother me. I use Lumix cameras. But being serious, I have never purchased a camera based on a promise of what it might or will be at some point in the future. I will buy it (or not) based on merit with what it comes with. If something is updated with something I find useful, then that is a bonus, but not an expectation. I’d be very happy with a pair of FX30’s plus a single A7V straight out of their boxes.