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Done as much or knows as much are two different things. The photography side from sensor on DSLR and smaller cameras, Nikon does know very well. - The Z6 and S1 video footage looks almost identical. Until someone shows me footage to prove that's not true then it's just lip service. - Nikon knows enough to be the first full frame camera to do 10 bit 4K external. That's before Panasonic and Sony and Canon. - I'm all ears and eyes to see that the S1 is better then the Z6. - 12 bit RAW Pro Res is coming from Nikon. So not sure what your point is. Nikon stepped up and delivered not only great spec'd video but great looking video quality. Nikon knows video now don't they?

You don't know that and are guessing at best. The S1 and Z6 share the sam sensor. Look at the footage from both cameras.

Didn't Nikon say Sony specially built the sensor that the Z series are using ? The agreement part between Nikon and Sony might be wide one also. The companies share some tech but Nikon wouldn't let Sony call the shots either. Ye I'm sure Nikon paid a price for the Sony sensors but it might not be limited like you think it is. Getting 10bit 4K is not limited controlled by the sensor out put or unlocked like you claim. Taking full advantage of a sensor like Nikon is doing with Atomos doesn't seem like it's restricted by the type of license they bought. This is just my take on this.

What's the CQK part?

Rumor has it the S1 does use the IMX410. https://www.l-rumors.com/the-panasonic-s1-probably-uses-the-new-sony-imx410-sensor/ Sony built the Nikon sensor to Nikons design specs. The rest of the Z6 specs had nothing to do with Sony, - body design, heat displacement, IBIS, color science, processor, and 144 Mbps. You make it sound like Sony is calling the sots. We don't know how the camera industry works behind the scenes. You don't know what Nikon negotiated with Sony and how it worked. That's what Nikon and Sony work with NDA's IMX410CQK These cameras Sony A7 III, Panasonic Lumix DC-S1, Nikon Z6, and Sigma fp use the IMX410CQK sensor. IMX410CQK - Spec PDF IMX410CQK_Flyer.pdf

Maybe they Weill surprise us. I think they will do crap 8K and they can say they were the first to do it. I ask this before: How does the S1 compare to the Z6 in pure cine video quality? Do you still have your Z6?

And this Is one reason the A7SIII is delayed. How long before Sony takes down his video? And to be fair to Sony if you select 'higher heat level" or whatever that is, it actually makes a big difference. The A7 III would have hit the 30 min record mark.

You have to think Panasonic or Nikon surprised Sony with video specs they produce with the Z6 and S1. Nikon has more to 144 Mbps, 4K 30fps no crop, 12bit RAW external, better IBIS and upgrade in XQD card. The S1 went even further internally. That's seems to make the most sense for the delay. Sony was caught off guard and they said the A7SIII would be better then everyone expected.

Nikon just released firmware update 2.01 for the Z6. Nice tweaks and I'll go on record to say the AF and EYE AF are at the Sony level now. (My honest take on this is Nikon should have had the Z6 at this level at launch. I am almost positive the Z6 had focus plane issues that weren't working right when the camera was released. I'm not a tech guy but it was just off. This was fixed in the last version and 2.01 just went further with the tweaking.) For all the Z6 owners what's your take?

Video is hard. Lol

As I said before when I direct a job I get the whole job. My production, my production insurance. I'm hands on. I'm also the creative on all my jobs. How is this clueless about this craft? On smaller gigs I handle the above and am the DP. I also edit and grade my work. Hey send us some of your work it would be great to see your IMBD. I'm here to learn as much as I can. I love directing, creative, editing, cinematography and photography.

They don't look plastic. They look better then Sony color and skin tone. Seriously take a phone picture of you computer screen because you must have the settings jacked up. And what does that tell you about me?

As I've said before when I needed I've rented the RED with 40K value in cine glass and the full package with a DP. You can keep making old man comments about who and what people are on these boards but you don't have a clue. Go hand out on the cine pro forum and let us hobbyist do our thing. And I'll rent gear all day long before I event 30K in glass or 30K on a RED or other set up.

You said those lenses "suck ass for video". Suck ass is not close to good or great is it. How much cine manual glass do you see on the GH5 or P4K? It's defiantly not the majority. Dude you said a few weeks ago your monitor was just recalibrated. Instead of quoting Jethro with "it sucks ass". Tell us why the color is off and stop using the words too dark and moody. This board is suppose to have discussions and it seems 'sucks ass" in not a very cinematic was to express how good or bad something is. Oh and also read the comments from that link and the other EOSH posters that disagree with you. You also a Nikon hater and not a photographer. And to be clear I never said the photo's had amazing subject matter or were perfect photo's but the color is not off and not like Sony and not wrong.

What link are you commenting on? This one ? https://alikgriffin.com/nikon-50mm-f1-8-s-lens-review-sample-photos/ The color and color photo's are on target. You're monitor or flat panel tv color is off or your a Nikon hater like previously.

Panasonic doesn't have the You Tube influencers to make a splash yet. It's all shifting though and Andrew is doping his part. You Tube reviewers need to do a deep dive and show what the S1can do against the RED or Arri. Cine industry takes a while to catch up. When the S1 and S1H are used in higher profile products the truth will come out. People are wait to make the move to Panasonic with the S1 or S1H. How can you buy the S1 when you don't know what the S1H gives you.

You keep saying it's the processor but it's more then that. Nikon and Panasonic upped the video game with 10 bit external and internal and this is an issue with Sony's body style and small form factor and overheating. Sony could go with internal or external 10 bit and if they could do either no one would be upset if 4K60 wasn't part of the A7SIII. it's called getting into the game. So the processor is one part of the story and what Panasonic and Nikon did is the other. And both Nikon and Panasonic are rumored to have the same sensor as the A7III, at least the Z6 is. So given that information it only make Sony look bad for not being to deliver. Remember you said all the other companies don't just design their own processors and that it takes years. You really need to say you work for Sony or that your just taking wild guesses at what they delays are with Sony. You have commented that body size of the A7SIII is not the issue so that means you think it's going to be the same size as the current A7III. Sony cameras still have overheating issues that no one else has. Everyone on here has said Sony has to have specs that match Panasonics but you. Sony won't match Panasonic because they have better AF. Dude you don't know what your talking about. Video Hummus know 100x more then the three books you posted.

Sounds like a good gig. With Netflix the delivery is ONLINE and at high speed connections. So Netflix has higher delivery quality then the compression chain thru cable or direct tv. This is a good thing. I deliver my spots thru Extreme Reach to NBC and CBS the standards are high. DVD was always better then viewing the broadcast version and the same with BlueRay. I think the traditional networks want content close to the source for a reason. Netflix and the networks now are broadcasting online and what's delivered will only get better. Netflix wants timecode and proof it was shot to it's standard. This disqualifies many cameras. Andrew you have or had the Z6. How does the S1 and Z6 compare? If the time becomes right and depending on 12 Bit Raw from Nikon, I will be getting the S1.

You are 100% wrong. "have likely led to delays" is a sly way of making people read your opinion as fact. Nikon and Panasonic have pushed video capabilities on the Z6 and S1 way above what Sony has given us. Body size for the Sony has to change because of past heat issues. If Nikon and Panasonic can give us new better cameras then no excuses for Sony. Sony making processors years and years before they hit the streets is what big companies like Sony do. Sony's cine line up would also benefit from smaller faster processors. Panasonic said the S1 had been in development for years and the idea and move toward full frame was like 6 years ago. No one really knows what Sony delayed the A7SIII but at least to the public it's delayed or long over due. I'm even very curious about what the A7SIII will be and how far they will push it. If what you say was true then the A7SIII might be 4 months away or 2 years away from hitting the streets. That's not how it works. Sony know how to make great cine cameras and processors, they just have to decide what to please and how to make it in a smaller form factor. How long before the P4K was released did the first announcement happen?

I never said iPhone and smartphones don't make improvements or add new features. I never said either thing.

iPhone has to talk about processor power. Cameras talk about sensor size. The life cycle to market is also different. Camera makers are changing with firmware updates and getting more from a camera instead of just bringing out a new model. The original processor comment that was made was not correct about Sony.

Nikon introduced a new processor with the Z6 and Panasonic with the S1. You don't think Sony can create and release a new processor since 2014? That's 5 1/2 years. In camera time that an incredible amount of time. Sony has it's cine line to learn from and I'm not buying what your selling. Sony has the resources to produce a new processor since 2014 and they knew the day would come. The S1, Z6 have pushed video quality and specs beyond what Sony currently offers. By the time Sony does update the processor and specs the S2 and next Z video geared cameras will be released. It's not as hard as you described to create and release new processors. In fact I would say Sony already has built the next two processors they would use but are reluctant to change body size and style. It's simple: Sony had a road map that kept the current A7III style body and hardware on the market thru 2020-21 and that's why they got caught sleeping. Sony also said they didn't want to make the A7 line up into a bigger body style when they had overheating issues. They basically said this is mirrorless and not DSLR.

The difference is Canon and Nikon and Panasonic influencers are not negative and dishonest about other brands. Sony influencers do reviews about Nikon and Canon and Panasonic and they flat out lie about these brands. Flat out. And it's on You Tube for all to see. The compared the Z6 and S1 to the A7III and they lie even when the results on screen show the S1 and Z6 are better then the A7III.

It makes a difference because with 10bit unlocks more data in the video file. Sony has been maxed out at 100 Mbps while Nikon is at 144Mbps and 12 bit RAW will be higher. More data goes a long way for video. It's not all for heavy grading or for not having banding in the sky. More data gives you better left to high panning, better sensor read out, etc. This is what you see in the S1 and Z6 video.

My bad.