TheBoogieKnight

There's always a lot of talk about the heavy-handed NR that Sony use in their cameras. It does look like the 7IV is a nice bump up in terms of IQ (other than the rolling shutter and crop) from the 7SIII. The Panasonics are 4:2:2 unless you use the crop modes (which you have to for 4k 50/60) or 6k/open gate when they drop down to 4:2:0. I'm not too bothered about the crop on either to be honest, the IQ is still great. The S1 lacks an AA filter so you can get moiré at times (never really been an issue here), do we know if the 7IV has an AA filter yet? Still happy with my S1s, paid under £800 for my last two but I'm definitely thinking of adding a 7IV for gimbal work.

You can shoot open-gate with that lens on the S1 and S1H. You can set a desqueeze but I don't think 1.6 is available (but you can get close). Pretty bad rolling shutter in open gate though but it's usable.

I'd happily give all of them up (other than the IBIS) for the ability to actually punch-to-focus during recording and an HDMI out that doesn't have horrendous latency.

https://www.dpreview.com/forums/thread/4525245#forum-post-65032086

Time limits?

Do we know the SDI latency with the BS1H? I saw some tests done on the BGH1 and the latency via SDI was identical to HDMI.

Ah, does have 4k 120 and video says no overheating!

No 4k/120, only 1/200 mechanical flash sync and a micro HDMI? These aren't the real specs surely?

What about the 4k? I realise people said it's less sharp but overall image compared to the SIII? Does it have an advantage in less aggressive NR etc.?

Thank you. Have you noticed any difference at all in AF performance between the 2?

Have you found the DR on the R6 to be ok? One of the things mentioned in a couple of reviews was that it was quite limited compared to the competition.

Still looking for a B (sometimes A) cam to my Panasonic S1s. Has anyone tested the A1 and compared its footage to the A7SIII or S1/S1H? I really don't want to spend that kind of money but if it's a step up from the SIII then I could probably be swayed (I do a lot of photography too so if I ponied up the extra for the A1 I could sell one of my S1 bodies). Love the image out of my S1s to be honest but want a body with great AF (and 4k 120 would be nice) to be used on a gimbal and the A1 (and 7SIII) seem to tick the required boxes. Cheers

Is there anything stopping a company just adding compressed RAW recording into a battery grip.

How do you find the 4k/24, 6k and 4k/60 compare in post after editing. Can you get them to look pretty much the same once you edit sharpening etc.?

Dual native gain is in all profiles but has different ISO point. Normal profiles are 100 and 640, HLG 400 and 2,500, Cine D2/V2 200 and 1250 and V-Log 640 and 4,000. On the S1H you can choose which circuit to use but the S1 switches automatically. If I get to the >2,000 range in V-Log I'll usually jump to 4,000. I've shot in non-log profiles before in low-light but I've read that V-Log is best period (except on the S1 at 50/60p where it's currently only 8-bit). I've shot with the 24-105 F4 in V-Log in not particularly bright room and been pretty happy with the performance.

Have there been any tests yet of image quality and DR using RAW and Neat NR?

I think the question is do you need 4k/120, the amazing AF and access to a wider selection of lenses? Two Panasonic S1s here but I'm seriously thinking of adding an SIII just for those things. I don't think the image quality will necessarily be as good but probably not too far off. I love my S1s in pretty much every way (other than a lack of 3k/60 10-bit which is coming in an update).

It's available with external recording only on the S!H but I'm not sure if you can do it on the S5 or with the S1 with latest update.

Did you do much handheld with the standard stabilisation. Did you find it good enough?

Some YT tests of the R5 and R6 found the maximum under CLOG was 11 usable stops. The S1 if I remember rightly using the same parameters was 12.7 stops so a massive difference. The R5 does have the advantage of RAW and while there's actually less stops of usable DR, with noise reduction you'll almost certainly get more than you can out of CLOG although I haven't seen any tests investigating how much more.

Hi Does anyone have any input on the noise penalty shooting in 4k 60/120 given it's using line skipping?

I realise the A6xxxx range don't have log but are there any profiles in them to protect highlights while still giving enough latitude in the shadows? There's no problem using FF lenses with these right?

Sorry it didn't work out for you. I just did some more tests today with similar results to yours. Sometimes it works (even with a subject moving forwards/backwards) but it's so unreliable. The worst thing is that when it loses focus it often just gives up and doesn't even try to get it back. If you (or anyone else) finds a solution I'd love to know. I see posts all the time saying it's not that bad but (even after the updates) it's not reliable enough to actually use in a job, unless you have the luxury of multiple (and it would be multiple) takes. It's also massively effected by lighting conditions. I'm going to stick with my S1s and add something else. I'll probably wait a few months till the R5/SIII drop in price. The AF on both (especially the SIII) looks remarkable.

Careful if you're using 120FPS on the EVF. Something has been broken and now if you're near LCD/LED lighting it can fail to focus. Few people reporting it on other forums, confirmed on my S1 bodies

I'm honestly not sure you'll find the great AF you're looking for with Fuji. I'm in a similar boat; two Panasonic S1s (which I absolutely love) but sometimes I need a camera with great AF. I really don't want to spend the $$$$ on an R5 or SIII but I've watched (and read) so many reviews on the other systems and I don't think the AF is great on them either (certainly better than the S1 but not in the same league as the R5/SIII).