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A Nikon mirrorless hybrid with internal BRAW would be high on my list if implemented.  If external BRAW, then less so.  If they want to set themselves apart from Sony, Canon and Panasonic fullframe, adding internal BRAW would be an advanatage.  Don't hold back on video, though I won't hold them to a ND filter...  even if it would be desirable.

Canons hybrids still have their limits, Panasonic keeps missing on AF, Sony is doing well, but their main video hybrid is only 12mp, which for some is seen as too small for the hybrid work they do.  So Nikon have a chance to fill the gap. 

I'm awaiting the first fullframe hybrid with a better internal codec than H264/5.  Will Nikon be the first?

On 3/6/2021 at 1:01 AM, kye said:

Wow..  someone answered 360+ !

 

That was me.  🤣

It's hard to be 100% sure, but going by 2017 to 2019, I had approx 107 clients booked each year.  Approx 16 are non Weddings, making 91 approx Weddings a year.  Each one gets 3 videos, a 1 min Trailer, Full Length and Highlights.  Some of the Weddings (about 50% of them) have 30 minute videos, Marryoke, Guestcam and Video Messages.  About 10% have all of the above.  

Non Wedding includes parties, where they get a Highlights and a Full Length.  Even my Corporate work, I'm doing several videos a lot of the time.  Such as a Promo video and separate Drone video.  

Plus I do a few of my personal videos in my time off.... 🤣🤣🤣

I can't say it's that much more than 360, but its around that mark for sure. 

26 minutes ago, barefoot_dp said:

Watching other people's mistakes is a great way to learn. Much better than making those same mistakes yourself.
 

Watching others mistakes can be satisfying as to remind you that you're not alone in making them.  As a lesson to stop you making them, it can have limited value.  I've learnt from my mistakes and I learnt quicker that way, than hearing about them from others.

5 minutes ago, Django said:

 

The overheating timers have been proven to be artificial, especially on the initial firmware. Doesn't really matter if you're in Cali or Antartica. There is an easy hack to work around this though and basically start shooting immediately after it overheats. You could also fallback to 4K non HQ mode which never overheats. Not ideal perhaps but its the price to pay for such features as 8K downsampled 4K in 10-bit 4:2:2 with DPAF. FYI, the Z6 can't even do internal log in 8-bit.

What's the advanatage for 8K downsampled 4K given the inconvenience of overheating.  Workarounds or switching to line skipped mode seems superfluous if there are better options out there for video only.  

If I was shooting primary stills and some video, the R5 might register as a worthy hybrid, with the inconvenience of video mitigated by my needing it less.  However if you're only shooting video, what's the attraction of the R5, other than 8K RAW?  

I'm not a big fan of Sony, far from it, having hated the few Sony cameras I've owned; but they are delivering in areas that Canon are not.  I can understand why many have looked to Sony over Canon for shooting video.

Got my Pocket 6K Pro today.  I took it out for a quick try at the grounds of a nearby University.  

Just some initial thoughts.  It does look like my screen has a slight blue tint.  I have not yet tried to upload any LUT, so can't confirm that yet.

Just using it for basic shots, it's a welcome step up on the Pocket 4K.  Tilt screen is very useful and I tried some low shots to make good use of it.  It was a dull day, but its clear the screen is a lot clearer and brighter.  I need a sunny day to really test it though. 

Battery life much better.  Not as good as the GH5 I own of course, but much more usable than the P4K.

Colour looked better but I need to edit the footage to make a proper judgement.  No issues with the IS on my 24 to 105 lens as I had on the 4K with the metabones adaptor.  However as the issue was intermittent, its hard to be sure.  It was a cold day, so I would have normally have had issues and lots aperture control at some point.  This didn't happen once.   Some improvement in shallow depth of field from the slightly larger sensor.  Nice look that I look forward to working with.

It's bigger and heavier to hold, but I felt sturdier in my hands.  It helped me to get more stable shots I felt.   I will continue to take it out and even start editing the footage, so will have more thoughts on it as time goes on.  However, I am very pleased with it so far.   

Canon have dropped the ball with their R5/R6 release.  Neither were the camera many hoped for.  I had hoped to add a R6 to my gear, but the release fell far short of even modest expectations.  Overheating and rolling shutter plus other notable misses as well.  Shame on Canon.  

Sony are pushing further than Canon in some areas, but Canon is in others, but for video, Sony is doing better IMO.  And I say this as someone who has never enjoyed a single Sony camera I have owned and prefers Canon colours to Sony.  Sony is narrowing the gap and I predict a day when Canon won't have the edge in AF and colour it once enjoyed.  Unless Canon can stop limiting their cameras so drastically, they will continue to lose their market to Sony, as they have done already.

Learning skills can vary depending on if you're shooting more work or not.  The downtime has allowed me to learn new skills such as colour grading, but also shooting so many Weddings per year allowed me to quickly learn the ins and outs of shooting with a particular camera and general use of the editing software.  I picked up Resolve quite quickly 2 years ago, learning on the fly, because I had to.  When you have actual projects to direct your learning, it can focus my efforts more than if I were to just dip in for the sake of learning.

23 minutes ago, MrSMW said:

 

The GH5 has a similar function.  I did use it to film some 6K footage of a watch, so I could crop in.  It's a limited function, but helpful for some shots.

On 3/3/2021 at 5:09 AM, IronFilm said:

Perhaps I was making a stretch of a leap, but I think I can see it if you squint. (like adding 60fps to a GH2, is a refinement to the concept rather than a big bold leap forward. Likewise the GH4 going from external 10bit to internal can also be seen as a "refinement")

Definitely the tick-tock approach is much more clearly seen with say Nikon's: D3 > D3s > D4 > D4s > D5

 

Agreed.  If the GH6 had been released in early 2019 with 6K or even 8K, it would have carried some weight and continued the trend.  As it was, Panasonic went down a different route.  Each GH release carried something new that got people excited for MFT, but it will be hard for a GH6 to get the same level of excitement now.  Though with the S1H out there, it's no longer going to be Panasonics flagship hybrid camera, so probably won't have to be the big launch previous models were. 

If done well, it could keep the MFT line going for another 5 years.  It's whether Panasonic will want to do so, when there are advantages in encouraging current GH users to shift to their fullframe brand and spend money on a new lens system.  MFT still has its uses, and is great for light and low profile lenses, but with Olympus gone, it feels like format dying slowly from neglect.

Cancelled my order with WEX and went with CVP, so I get my camera tomorrow.  WEX were so unhelpful and even rude in replying to me.  Their loss.  Also got a Mavic Mini 2, so I have 2 toys to play with come the weekend.

Editing H264/5 Vs BRAW is like night and day.  Sure I can edit them on a 4K timeline and yes I can use auto cache, but with BRAW, I can apply a lot of grading and still get smooth playback.  I don't have to transcode the footage or do anything extra, just edit it as is.  H264/5 are deliverable codecs and regardless of system, I find nothing beneficial except a low file size, and frankly even that's not a great advantage given the various compression levels offered in BRAW.

As for latitude, much greater.  A much better and intuitive white balance control that is more consistent within the RAW controls if Resolve.  H264/5 footage clipped remains clipped, not so with BRAW, where you have greater latitude to bring in new detail in the highlights and shadows otherwise clipped.  Its not proper RAW, but that 12 bit is useful to me.  Do I need that extra latitude, absolutely. 

I still work with a lot of H264/5 footage.  I'm not saying it's not possible to get a decent grade, or that it's a major pain to work with; just that BRAW for me is a lot better.  I find more pleasure editing and colour grading now I'm working with it than I did before.  Its nice to have a system where the camera, codec and editing software are so intune with each other.  

21 minutes ago, Emanuel said:

  

Price point?

Let alone affordable glass...

Price point is at the same level as S5.  Affordable glass is worth little to Panasonic if people already own it.  Better to push for fullframe and get people to invest in new glass.  I've not bought a MFT lens in years.  Mainly as I have it all covered.  

2 hours ago, IronFilm said:

I've noticed with the GH series Panasonic has had a tick-tock approach.
One cycle of the GH series release, is a big leap forward, then the next one after is a refinement. 

GH1 to GH2: GH2 is what put the GH series on the map.
GH2 to GH3: essentially a refined and perfected GH2. 
GH3 to GH4: big leap! 4K got added. 
GH4 to GH5: essentially a refined and perfected GH4.

Thus if the GH5 is the "refined GH4", does that mean the GH6 will deliver a big leap forward for us? Fingers crossed. 
(it does mean though if the GH6 is a big leap forward, I fully expect the GH7 to merely be "a refined/perfected GH6")

I am not sure that works.  The GH5 added IBIS and 10 bit, making it a much more exciting a camera release at the time than the GH4 was back in its day.  Sure the GH4 added 4K, and it was huge, but 10 bit files is hardly a small addition.  GH3 added 60p to HD, again a huge step from the GH2.

I think each step of the GH Series has been a big step and factored in new technology, bringing new things to mirrorless camera from 1080p, to 60p 1080p, to 4K to 10 bit and IBIS.  

The GH6 would need to add something unique.  Alas 8K has already been done in fullframe, RAW with the Pocket cameras, 120fps is already covered.  What can the GH6 offer on the table to make it stand out from what is already there?  Not much.  Even internal ND has been done.   

You can't blame Panasonic if they thought that MFT had now had its day.  Technology has now caught up to make fullframe now equally beneficial.  

For the GH6 to shine in the way previous models did, it would require a leap I feel Panasonic are unable to make.  Outstanding AF coupled with internal ND, internal RAW or ProRes, minimum 120fps 4K, 30p 8K and 6K shooting modes and countless other features to give it an edge over fullframe mirrorless.  Anything less, and many will compare it to say the S5 and ask, why?

MFT was great in its day, but let's face it, even the size advanatage is hard to factor when the S5 is on a similar scale to the GH5.  What can MFT do that other cameras with larger sensors can not?  The only question to validate a GH6 release.

1 hour ago, Anaconda_ said:

It will probably be in the same update that brings gen5 colour to the other pockets. 

Can't edit for that update.  Been a long time coming.

I've heard about the LUT bug.  Screen one is new to me.  I'm still awaiting WEX to even acknowledge the camera is now available.  Should have gone to CVP... 

Hopefully a bug fix will be due out soon to fix these silly issues.  Sounds like an easy fix.  

2 minutes ago, IronFilm said:

Hang on, how did we get to be talking about slavery in a general sense??? 

 

I replied to the wrong thread, that's how.  This should be in another thread regarding Covid.  I must admit I was confused why my reply wasn't showing up in that thread.  

Slavery is an odd word to be used in this context.  To be a slave, you have to be owned by someone and subject to their orders; working with no reward or remuneration.  Hardly appropriate description to the wearing of masks and other Covid related restictions.  Rules don't equate to slavery, or else all would apply.  Do speed restrictions count as slavery, laws regarding stealing and murder an infringement on your human rights.  We all have to obey rules for the greater good of the country and a few more is hardly a huge step on our personal rights as a free person.  

Those who feel repressed by it, should remind themselves that it can be a lot worse.  There are Countries for example that regulate media, where you can be arrested for just disagreeing with the Government.  A perspective on things can help to respect what can be necessary steps to keep the population safe.

That said, I've not always been in agreement in how these protections have been implemented.  There is a cost to restrictions, a damage to mental health and the economy and even education, which is not always being fully considered in this pandemic.  In the UK, new rules are implemented with very little debate; giving the Government a power that I hope they don't get too comfortable with.  

The obsession to beat the virus at all costs is okay by those whose livelihoods and business havn't been deeply affected by this.  To them a few more months of lockdown is quite acceptable.  For others, it can be the difference between a Business surviving or not. 

Among my family, I am the only one to be deeply affected financially by the pandemic, so my view on the lockdown and restrictions do differ in how soon I wish to see them lifted. 

Unfortunately, there is often little sympathy for those who have lost Businesses and income over this.  Our tough luck it seems.  I've had some people say to me that it serves me right for taking the risky route of being self employed.  Mention any mental health issues over the lockdown to others and you're asked "how would you cope in the 2nd World War".  That comparison seems to crop up a lot for some reason, though I can't see the connection myself.  

The full truth on the economic damage is probably being shielded from us, whilst focus remains on eliminating the virus, but I expect we will not be in the dark much longer, and there will be further costs financially, though this time shared more equally among the population.  No doubt in years to come, there will be much debate on the handling of the virus, and how it can be tackled better should it happen again.  I hope this is a once in a generation event.  It would be hard to go through this, just to have another virus 4 or 5 years from now.

I started using Resolve 2 years ago and coming from Premiere, which use to leave me so angry and frustrated, it's a credit to Resolve that editing is now seen by me as a pleasure than a chore.  It feels madness that people still use it and whilst I can understand, familiarity of software is crucial when editing projects quickly, the small time it took me to get to grips with Resolve has proven to make such a difference to my workflow now.

10 minutes ago, hoodlum said:

While nothing specific on the GH6 other than they are still considering it, Panasonic did mention a new prime and “revolutionary” zoom are coming. My guess is that the zoom would be designed for video similar to the 10-25.  
 

https://www.43rumors.com/great-news-panasonic-says-new-revolutionary-mft-zoom-and-new-mft-fast-primes-are-in-the-works-along-the-gh6/

Still considering it is hardly any hope of anything soon or at all.  

16 minutes ago, androidlad said:

It's all 23.98P, for internal, external, compressed and ProRes RAW

So no DCI, no true 24p, no waveform... even the GH5 offers this... maybe we should call the GH5 a cinema camera. 😄

26 minutes ago, mrtreve said:

 

It's just a real shame they had to lose the EVF. It's one of the best things about the form factor.

A plus to the Pocket 6K Pro is that although an EVF isn't included, there is a dedicated unit that covers that function.  I will no doubt purchase this at some point and I wonder if something similar could be offered to the FX3. Making it an optional extra would be a better option than third party solutions, which I am using for the Pocket 4K.

6 minutes ago, JordanWright said:

Turns out they will be getting it in tomorrow instead so (in theory) it should be getting to me between Friday and Monday!

I emailed WEX to tell them that someone in the UK was getting theirs soon and asking if they had a possible ETA for mine, and they rather rudely replied that no one in the UK has the cameras and anyone saying to the contrary is lying.  🙄🙄🙄  I should have stuck with CVP.  

1 hour ago, Trek of Joy said:

More choices are better. Kinda makes the C70 look a little overpriced.

Man how quickly everyone throws shade. If this was released before the a7s3 it would be hailed as the greatest thing ever. 

Greatest thing ever without ND, DCI 4K, shutter angle, waveform etc; 🤔 I think not.  

If the FX3 was before the A7sIII, then the latter would have received with less welcome instead, especially the low 12mp sensor for a hybrid camera.  We'd be saying they just cannibalised the FX3 sensor and added the evf and took away the audio attachment.  

Issue is that after the A7sIII, some were hoping for more for the FX3.  

8 minutes ago, JordanWright said:

Speaking of the camera getting here CVP here in the UK called me saying they are getting my unit in today.

I ordered from WEX.  I did CVP last time with the Pocket and it took ages.  Serves me right going elsewhere now.  Still no word from WEX.

8 minutes ago, Video Hummus said:

Yes, and they sent him a bunch of swag in a pelican case to "sweeten" the review. How is that not payment? They have to disclose that Sony didn't sponsor them or have control over the review in anyway, yet they send him all this crap as an implicit: "look at what you won't get if we don't like your review".

Everybody knows if piss these companies off they won't include you in their YouTube marketing and you won't get free shit.

Why I rarely watch YouTube pieces such as the one linked above.  It tells me little and it's primary purpose is to sell the camera for the manufacturer, and increase subscribers and viewers for the vlogger.  Even the useful ones that tell me something tend to make me cringe with their same 'what's up Guys' style.