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Simple explanation - the S1 doesn't have an AA filter/OLPF (as opposed to the S1H), see this article: https://petapixel.com/2020/02/10/how-an-anti-aliasing-filter-impacts-a-cameras-photos/ So this is expected behavior.

I indeed have to withdraw my allegation that the two Digital Bolex representatives were just hired influencers. I tried to dig deeper into the matter, and it's really complicated - Cinemeridian was founded by your friend Joe, but apparently became a subsidiary of Ienso. (There are also online sources that state that Cinemeridian was a joint-venture of Ienso and Swiss Bolex:.) There's been a discussion on the company's ownership on the Personal View forum in 2013, with Elle Schneider chiming in: https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2568/digital-bolex-raw-camera-no-longer-made/p24 (But nowhere did I write that their Kickstarter campaign was fraud!)

If you buy an Apple Mac Pro, it also says "Made in USA" although all the components were made in Asia. And to celebrate the "Made in USA" fact, they even pulled this stunt at the factory:

I shouldn't even reply given the tone in which you write. None of what you state above disproves (or is in contradiction) to what I wrote. Here's the company registration info on Cinemeridian: https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_ca/C3626603 The registered company address is: 20 MURAL ST UNIT 7 RICHMOND HILL ON CANADA L4B 1K3 ...which is actually the company address of Ienso Inc.. That means that Cinemeridian (the company that produced Digital Bolex) was a full subsidiary of Ienso. The company registration page also tells Cinemeridian is: Branch of CINEMERIDIAN INCORPORATED (Delaware (US)) i.e., using a matroska puppet construction for the company. If we're looking up the registration of Cinemeridian Inc. on https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_de/5047665, we get: 108 WEST 13TH ST, WILMINGTON, New Castle, DE, 19801 As I wrote, this was probably done for tax reasons, since Delaware is considered a tax shelter state within the U.S.: https://www.investopedia.com/articles/personal-finance/092515/4-reasons-why-delaware-considered-tax-shelter.asp A company "Digital Bolex" never existed, since the trademarks for Bolex remains with the original Swiss Bolex company, and their trademark was only licensed for the D16. One of the launch videos for D16, which was posted here in this thread before by someone else, was uploaded and advertised as " the first film shot on the new Digital Bolex" (it still says so on the Vimeo page): ...but if you only look at the very beginning of the video - actually right at 00:01 -, you see that it was shot with the Prosilica GX2300: So, if you would use moral categories (which I didn't do, but many people here in this thread), then Digital Bolex lied to its customers. (The statement "the first film shot on the new Digital Bolex" is objectively untrue.) But I also wrote that in the end, the D16 was a real camera and people were happy with it - in fact, I wouldn't mind having that camera myself!

I haven't written this, and you grossly distort what I wrote. Please read carefully. I only wrote that Jinni Tech's disclosures are not having the shocking news value that many people here think they have. You even distort and wrongly paraphrase what I wrote about Olympus. And if you think that what I wrote about Digital Bolex is factually wrong, prove it.

Philip Bloom is - by his standards: unusually - outspoken on the R5: "This is the first camera I have used in memory that punishes you for using it. [...] I spent £4200 on a camera I cannot use most of the time and that’s ludicrous! I truly hope they find a way to fix this debacle."

You're getting me completely wrong. What I'm saying is: In a civil war where warlords are fighting each other, take it with a grain of salt when a small warlord accuses a bigger warlord of his crimes, don't think that those crimes are singular or exceptional - and if you want justice, put all the warlords out of business. (And, if you go to an investigative journalist, or even to the United Nations, to make them aware of the small warlord's YouTube accusations against the big warlord, expect to be shrugged off.) That's why I compared to Jinni Tech's videos to truther videos. They're literally repeating the Joseph Kony YouTube meme (- sticking to the warlord analogy).

Yes, and then Blackmagic sued him over taking away trade secrets (I linked to a summary of the lawsuit). As a result of that feud, we now have Blackmagic pushing its BRAW and not supporting ProRes RAW in Resolve, because it's Atomos technology. Atomos conversely pushes ProRes RAW which it jointly developed with Apple - and for which it pays license fees to RED, since RED legally threatened Atomos over breaching its compressed RAW video camera patent. As a result of all these shenanigans, RAW video is a f*cked-up mess. (Again, I'm just bringing up all these examples to show the whole tech industry is Machiavellian, with lawsuits over overpriced proprietary technology being its routine business.)

I didn't write this, I only wrote that they presented a Prosilica GX2300 as the D16 prototype at SXSW when the Digital Bolex project made its first public appearance, and launched its Kickstarter campaign - so I actually said the same that you said! And just for fun/entertainment: Here's some interesting coverage of the litigation history between Blackmagic and Atomos: https://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=1892682b-5576-4997-8b87-1c750c6a768d

Speaking of which: Apple just took legal action against a small company for its "Prepear" app that allows to plan meals, arguing that its pear logo was an infringement of Apple's logo: "Prepear says that it is a 'very small business' with only five team members, and explains that legal costs from the dispute have already cost thousands of dollars and the layoff of a team member." https://www.macrumors.com/2020/08/08/legal-action-against-company-with-pear-logo/ So, here you have the equivalency of the hot dog stand. I'm not saying that RED's business practices aren't despicable, I'm only saying that they're common in the industry.

Out of my head: How HP and other printer manufacturers shut out third-party ink cartridge suppliers by putting DRM chips into their printers that would cause the printers to stop working and spew out error messages if you used a third-party ink cartridge. HP (and other "original" printer manufacturer) ink is several times more expensive per liter than Chanel No. 5 perfume and vintage Scotch whiskey. In fact, RED only copied the HP business model with its RED mags. How practically all camera manufacturers use DRM chips in their batteries to block the use of third-party batteries, and spread FUD (fear/uncertainty/doubt) that third-party batteries will damage your camera. - Just this week, I'm struggling with third-party battery error/warning messages from a Sony mirrorless camera after I installed a firmware update. How Amazon sues all web stores that implement 1-click-buy buttons. How Apple sued everyone who used the word "App Store". How Microsoft earns more patent royalties from Android licenses than from its own operating systems. How the MPEG-LA sues everyone who uses the h264 codec without paying them license fees.

You brought in the moral category of the "good cause"... Anyway, we could also extend the cause to other small-scale camera manufacturers. Take Digital Bolex, for example. When they were still in business, they pretended to be a filmmaker-run Kickstarter grassroots project. In reality, however, a company "Digital Bolex" never existed, but the actual company was the large-scale Canadian electronics manufacturer Ienso. The people who posed, on fairs and in social media, as the "Digital Bolex" founders, were neither company owners, nor camera designers, but hired social media influencers. On top of that, the supposed Digital Bolex D16 prototype presented at the SXSW festival to launch the Kickstarter campaign was a disguised third-party camera by another manufacturer (the Prosilica GX2300). Later, the company registration was changed from California and Canada to a letterbox company address in Delaware. Enough material for shocking YouTube revelations - objectively even more shocking than what's currently being 'revealed' about RED. Nevertheless, the D16 turned out to be a real product, wasn't exactly affordable, and people were and still are happy with it. Bottom line: I still fail to see how RED's business practices are categorically worse than those common in the industry. (And if you want to pick a really bad case, just take Olympus with their corruption scandal and past ties to Japanese organized crime.)

Please give me a break, this a business suing a business. If we're turning this debate to one of "good vs. evil", we should go to churches, join cults or watch superhero movies. If you want to support a good cause, have a non-profit NGO like the EFF sue corporations like RED (or Apple, or basically the whole industry), but never trust another company.

Just checking: - Linus Torvalds - I couldn't find any mention, not even on LKLM.org (the Linux development mailing list). Do you have a pointer? - Newsshooter: a single mention in an article one year ago on the "highly inflated prices" of the RED mags, https://www.newsshooter.com/2019/07/17/red-drops-prices-on-mini-mags-media/, no mention or coverage of the new video. - CineD/C5D: same as Newsshooter, https://www.cined.com/red-mini-mag-and-redmag-controversy-second-video/ etc.etc. I could find no coverage of the recent video anywhere on those sites. So what do Jinni Tech's supposedly so disruptive revelations actually tell? That RED uses inflated prices for its hardware, that it has a shady history of re-registering its company in different states and with different legal constructions, and that it puts EULA clauses into its products that give it a free pass from liability which is likely in violation of laws. Yes, I agree that this is shady business practice. But you know what? This is how the entire tech industry works (actually, how capitalism works but I don't want to get into a political debate here). Look at Apple, for example: grossly inflated prices for its accessories and replacement parts, shutting out third-party repair technicians by legal clauses, throttling its iPhones with older batteries without telling customers (i.e. actually having lied to customers for years), locking you into its EULAs with the iCloud tie-in of its products (just like Google, Microsoft and everyone else - only taking Apple as one example here). And guess what: Until recently, Apple was officially not a U.S., but a Dutch- and Irish-registered company for reasons of tax evasion. So I stand by statement: Jinni Tech's revelations are on the level of truther videos and are only shocking to people who must have very naive and idealistics concepts of how businesses do business.

Yes, shot on two cards at the same time for data security. But my experience matches that what is being reported elsewhere on the X-T4. AF-C video autofocus with the X-T4 is unusable IMHO, both with the 50mm and the 18-55mm. I recorded one video with AF-C and had to throw away most of the footage afterwords. For strange reasons, the focus doesn't say locked on subjects, but pumps all the time - to such degrees that you won't see on the camera display, but only later on the big screen. I hope that Fuji will still fix this with firmware but won't hold my breath.

I had the camera overheat after 25 minutes of shooting a concert in ca. 23 degrees room temperature, 4K DCI h265 10bit 4:2:0 All-I on dual SD cards, with a Fujinon 50mm/f2 WR lens.

Then he should make the effort of writing down his insights in a well-structured paper/article, with an abstract, summary and clearly laid out arguments, instead of producing convoluted truther-style videos. Sorry, but they don't meet even minimum standards of journalism or research, and wouldn't pass any editor (except maybe at Infowars.com). And I actually would applaud if someone in the industry would stand up and sue RED so that its RAW video patent goes away. The RED subculture is a strange one, both on the company's side and on the side of its enemies. It's like getting into a cult like Scientology. I personally want to keep my mind clear of that nonsense.

The 16-55 isn't stabilized. I use the more pedestrian 18-55mm/2.8-4, and its stabilizer works really well together with the X-T4's IBIS.

The real issue IMO is that Fuji's lens lineup is in dire need of a Mark II renewal (with the same optics but new electronics, like Canon did with the STM versions of its lenses) because it's not up to modern standards for contemporary autofocus systems, i.e. AF-C with object/face tracking in both stills photography and video. This is the present-day achilles heel of the Fuji X system, along with the fact that they probably need a more modern chip architecture/manufacturing process to deal with heat management. Given the current state of the camera industry, I'm not too optimistic that such an overhaul of the product portfolio will ever happen. The thermal problems with the current generation of cameras (R5/6, X-T4 and even A7Siii) really indicates that companies are cutting costs in chip R&D and manufacturing. But Fuji could mitigate that with a bigger body in an X-H2...

Yes, but this makes no real difference to how companies, industries (and capitalism for that matter) generally work. Companies sue each other over trademarks and patents all the time, especially in industries like tech and pharmaceuticals.

Depends on the stability of your posture - sorry that I can't give a better comment. For using the X-T4 in walking situations, the YouTube videos of "Camera Conspiracies" give you a good idea (although I can't say that I'm a fan of that channel...)

Yes, and yes. I own the XT-4 and had the XT-3 before as a rental camera. The overheating shutdown of the X-T4 is a known fact, and openly communicated by Fuji. You're getting about 20-25 minutes video recording time out of the camera. Most likely, this is due to the IBIS system of the camera (which not only consumes additional power/generates heat, but also worsens dissipation of heat from the sensor).

With all due respect, but unless "Jinnitech" manages to clearly put down and explain what is supposedly wrong with RED instead of churning out convoluted, suggestive and unclear mystery tales, this is all just some QAnon-style YouTube-"truther" conspiracy BS...

IBIS on the X-T4 is - as perhaps typical for APS-C - somewhere in between the best MFT systems (Olympus & Panasonic GH5) and the not-so-effective full frame systems (Sony A7 series). The real drawback of the camera IMHO is (a) overheating and (b) the built-in Log profiles (F-Log and HLG) which have greatly reduced color resolution in comparison to the standard color profiles. IMHO it also suffers from an overloaded and sometimes illogical camera menu - unfortunately, Fuji has gone the Sony route ever since it has packed more functionality into its cameras.

That said, native L mount lenses IMHO have zero advantages - I'd even say: only disadvantages - over adapted manual lenses when one uses the Sigma fp for video: autofocus and auto-iris aren't meaningfully usable in video mode; focus-by-wire sucks; so far, all Sigma "DC" lenses rely on geometric correction in software, which doesn't work with RAW video.