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At least I can be honest with my comments and stand by them. Did you really use the "I wasn't talking about you card"? This is how you lose credibility. Please go read my past post. I never posted my work or attacked anyone else's work. @IronFilm sorry for calling you the audio guy. I know you've put in time and are out making some good work.

Tell you what if I posted with my real name and info I would post the same way. I try to make honest post and not attack people. Because of this I don't trust people like you that have alternative motives.

The majority of the EOS is anonymous in nature. This comes out of the mob mentality that base their opinion based on inner circle of influence. Sorry but your post is weird and creepy just for the fact that you think you need to know who I am and what I look like. People downvote my comments, get confrontational, say I live in my mom's basement and then ask for my real name, company website and link to films/tv I've worked on. You don't see an issue with that? I could very well be working on Stranger Things (before lockdown). If so what would that prove about my comments? or what would you do with that information? I have no doubt someone would make a call to people they know to affect my standing on said show. Just like most of us on here.

As much as anyone else on here.

I'll also take the DoF refrence from this film: You can have UpStream Color

@IronFilm Thanks for the great info. My comment that was taken out of the original reply was about run and gun with the P4K and keeping the camera footprint small. MFT was mention as being great for run and gun. When did I ever say DPAF was the equivalent to having professional 1st AC pulling focus. DPAF or AF tracking with the new FF cameras lets true run and gun shooters get shots that would take hours to get with a professional 1st AC pulling focus. DPAF and AF tracking is not letting the camera do the guess work. It's also not a small minority that use DPAF or AF tracking. The GH5's and other cameras have faulty AF so defenders say things like "unless you're a small minority " and "let Canon's DPAF do its guesswork". And at the same time exucses for the GH5's color, bad codec and outdated image quality gets over looked. Now you moved the conversation to "professional 1st AC pulling focus" and "This is why you've got a 1st AC on all but the most micro of micro budget film sets." C'mon man this whole thread is talking about the most micro of micro budgets with GH5 users creating great feature films on low budgets. Do you really think we're suppose think the GH5 has a 1st AC attached to it? This will get us into the "lets save money by using the GH5 and rig it out because we can't afford the C300 II"

Cost per unit changes with each new camera. The word NEW means a lot in the camera world. Cost per unit is not always passed onto consumers like I said before. Olympus financial numbers show they weren't selling that many cameras. No ripple effect will cross over to any other company. Even if it was FF the result of a poorly selling company calling it quits on helps the others. When Seag and Dreamcast got out of computer hardware did Sony increase the price of it's console? The camera market has survived the last 20 years and will keep on going just fine. It's not my fault you don't understand set MSRP that Sony and Canon and others set each year with each product release. Do we have any indication that the A7SIII will be $4,500 and that that's the entry price where the A7III used to be? If the A7SIII is priced as a flagship price it's because that's what it is. The next BMP7K will not be $3,500 and the next Fuji camera will not be $1,000 more than the previous model. What with the "right side doesn't match up that well" don't you get? It is what it is. What does it have to do with audio man?

Continue on please.

Cost per unit will not go up in the near future. We will get more specs and more camera for that $4,500 and that $2,000 price point. The camera industry has given us numbers for the last 20 years to look at. The market had a big drop in camera sales 7 years ago. Smaller scales of economy = higher costs isn't something that hits the camera industry like you think it does. Remember we are talking about the camera industry.

We will see. I will go with Sony or Canon depending on which camera is better. Maybe neither one if they are just spec cameras. The proof will be in image quality. Sony will have to jump in the 10bit world and 4K 60p crop is what we might get. I think release dates will be 2 years apart with lots of firmware updates to keep people from jumping to a new brand.

No problem. Yeah let's stop talking about the GH5 and let it be.

If it takes 2-3 post without caps and someone repeats that I said something I didn't I'll use caps. I clearly posted about the MFT, the GH5, it's cropped sensor and what I saw across You Tube. I clearly posted that I've color graded GH5 footage but never shot it. It really is clear what I've posted about. Color or color issues are obvious for most cameras the GH5 has some. I pointed this out. The GH5 has a bad codec and is over sharped, I pointed this out. The GH5 does have great specs. YOu can connect the dots or not. I know and have done enough research on the GH5, color graded it's footage to know it's not worth the headache and doesn't match the specs people boost about. The EOS is clearly about helping people, with out hype or fanboyism, select the best camera that works for them.

Why do you keep going on about things I never said.................i.e. like using the GH5

The guys I used are professional and I'll put their work up against anyone's. Yes they had IR pollution issues with ND filter. If you haven't seen it first hand then you don't have a clue. All you have to do is search BMP6K IR issues and see how many videos you see. People aren't posting about it but you see a lot of footage with it. Then look at BMP6K footage and see how much IR pollution you see when you know what to look for. My comments about the GH5 were a little take on issues I see with crop sensor and work that around. Does it affect MFT future or has it? I don't know.

FOR THE LAST TIME> I NEVER EVER HAVE USED OR EMPLOYED ANYONE TO USE THE GH5 -

You can't pull focus on the P4K without rigging it up or having a focus puller., no IBIS so more rigging. After that it's not a run n gun camera. Yes the GH5 is a great run n gun if you can control focus. Given the callout for small compact M43 set up I don't think our conversation means anything different. Grasping for straws.

Olympus was kinda a big deal to bring M43 to market. Olympus just went under and the thread is about that. I don't have a GH5, never have and I don't have a P4K. I did use the P4K and P6K on a few gigs. People need to be informed about M43 is all. The GH5 was a good camera 3 years ago. Should it be recommended to buy and invest in? I don't think so but that's MHO. Hope that clears everything up for you. You're a sound guy. Not sure you have a dog in this hunt do you? What is super shallow DoF? Super35 has been standard for a while. M43 goes the other way and FF is in transition. You might want to go back and see if I tried to make the DoF argument with M43 and FF because I haven't.

My DP's get the shot I want because I prepare them and I'm the director or I've been my own DP. My comment wasn't about my DP's or myself. Sensor size issue with M43 is. an issue that has to be dealt with. You might take a look at all the GH5 speed booster debates and why they use them.

Except for AF.....lol. But seriously, you jumped on the 6K bandwagon.

Olympus and most camera companies are missing the "Steve Jobs" visionary that drives creative and innovation. Currently Sony seems to have the guts, creative and know survival depends on having innovative ideas. Sony has been pushing electronic and making great products for decades. Can know what people want but has yet to deliver a great product that pushes them to #1 in mirror less sales. You can always put lipstick on a pig with great marketing. Looks like July might be some positive news in a depressing 2020.

I agree reluctantly. I want Canon's R5 to be better. If that 10K Quad Bayer sensor can match Sony cine camera cadence then it's game on. If this is a new body redesign ("it will be a complete redesign of the whole system, including the image sensor. Everything is new. ") then this means Sony will but the new A9 and lower models off this body.

MY guess is Sony puts the A7S III at $4,500 and then comes out with a $2,000 dumbed down version. The $2,000 version won't have RAW or RAW out abilities, etc. This will be like the S1H and S1.

A9 at $4,500 in 2017 had nothing to do with competition. They built the equivalent model to the top of line Nikon or Canon, i.e. flagship model. The same is happening right now. The S1H was priced at $ 4,000 with additional cost for feature upgrades. Most people thought this was a reasonable price. Sony will still have a new camera at $1,999 and at $3,500. They always do this and people buy which one fits their budget. As I said over an over, go look at camera price from 20 years ago. $5,000 for the flagship Nikon DSLR. A redesigned A7S III means most likely a bigger body, no heat issues, new sensor (one that's not in the competition yet), 10 bit (finally) and 4k 60p. Everyone has asked for more features that are in line with cine cameras. If they put everything into theses cameras they will be north of $3,500 at release.

The PS4 Pro is priced at $399 right now. Spec wise that's what the PS5 has to be better than. PS5 looks to be $599 and Sony makes very little profit on the PS4 as it is. Do you think the PS5 is over priced for the specs it delivers ? $599 is way under what a PC gaming system would be. Sounds like the A7SIII might lead the market in ability and image quality.

Prices are not going up from where they've always been. The A9 was priced at $4,500 Nikon was charging $5,000 for a DSLR back in 2001. Sony will always have it's $2,000 to $4,500 price range. The S1H was priced at $4,000 for it's hybrid camera. Has the market and pandemic been going on since 2001? Nope. Same prices we had back in 2017 when the market was hot. Sony A9 was $4,500