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I don't understand why they can't leave the website live and just stop updating it. Web hosting can be very cheap. They can leave affiliate links and ads to pay for the hosting. I have used the site many times when considering lenses and probably have clicked an affiliate price link, I expect the same applies to a big percentage of photographers and videographers.

All I can do is rule out the Mi 10T Pro. It doesn't do 120fps. It isn't an option for any resolution. Maybe it's because frame drops are common. It just goes up to 60. I recommend you ask on their Discord server, where you will probably get a fast answer in the dedicated Xiaomi room.

Cobalt Image do Fuji film sim profiles for Lightroom and Capture One, so no good for video. But it means you can get a very good version of your favorite film simulations on any camera, and some phones. They just redid the Fuji pack yesterday. They previously had 2 Fuji packs, so now I have 3 versions of each film simulation. They are good at what they do so I assume I will just use the recent version most of the time. I sent them a raw file from my phone and it sounds like they are going to create a base pack for that model, so you can do that if your camera or phone isn't in their list. You pay for the camera model base pack (around $50). Then you pay for the profile pack (a similar amount). It means I am free to use bodies better suited to me than Fuji. It will be cool if and when they release a base pack for my phone too. I have never wanted to use Fuji colors for video, but someone probably makes presets or LUTs. Cobalt Image profiles are completely different from the Lightroom presets you can buy, which are never accurate.

Yeah, it's amazing the difference that app makes. But the developer and others acknowledge the limited glass on the phones. Maybe someone will bring out a more affordable version of the Xiaomi Leica concept phone where you can use Leica lenses with their latest flagship. Would love that with Fuji or Sony APSC mount or even M43. Obviously ergonomically bad, but these devices are little powerhouses that could be very useful with decent lenses. If using a tripod the ergonomics don't matter too much and they have great screens. Would be awesome to be able to pick up something like this used after it has been out 2 years for the fraction of the price of a Fuji XH2.

On their Discord. He said this: "if i remeber well, Asus Zenfone 6 had exposed the 8k resolution native". Then he brought up the old LG V35 and said that would be better with it's 16MP sensor, doing 4K raw. I will probably just stick with my 6K phone doing motioncam raw and upscale to 8k, as it sounds like the ZenFone 6 may not be very good. I will see how much they cost. But he seemed to agree that sticking with the 108MP sensor in my Xiaomi would be best. Maybe the ZenFone is weaker and skips frames or something. He also said: "As said before if you want the most details capture in daylight use an LG V35 w 256gb version. That sensor and optics mix gives the most definition i had ever seen in a smartphone. Again 1 minute of 8k more then 40GB (plus is more sensitive in terms of capturing, easily you can get frame drops) On newer phones i am sure this wont be an issue." BTW LG V phones are great for audiophiles like me, who use wired earphones. Much better sound quality than other phones as they have a built in AMP DAC.

Motioncam can only do 8k on the ZenFone 6, apparently. That's what the developer says on his Discord. But he also said it is bad quality. Might just leave it and wait until I can afford a Fuji XH2.

Just got the Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro. The 8K video on the default camera app is complete junk. Not worth showing a sample, it is useless in several ways. But installing Motion Cam Raw Pro allows me to record very good looking 6K video (not looked on a big screen yet but it looks 100 times beter than the default app's 8K). I am very tempted to get a newer phone model so I can do 8K raw video as that app totally saves the day. Can anyone confirm if Motion Cam Raw Pro can do 8K on phones that do 8K video? Even though my phone does "8K video", it's actually upscaled 6K, hence Motion Cam Raw only doing 6K.

So I shouldn't get an 8K phone because you are worried about climate change? Lol.

Good to hear your opinion is from experience. Sometimes it just seems that people are assuming phones will be worse. Definitely taking what you said onboard.👍

Which one of these factors could make a video incompatible with a TV? I would assume just the resolution, but someone else seems to think the other two could be possibilities. Thanks. Exporting at a certain bitrate (footage at 8 Mbps worked, but not footage at 10Mbps) Color depth (footage filmed on a camera that shot 8 bit worked, but some 10 bit camera footage didn't) Resolution i.e. too high resolution for the TV (this is my guess as we are trying vertical footage, so the height could be more than the TV allows for) Of course, I would figure it out myself but I don't have access to a video editor right now, or a TV for that matter. The issue is that the the footage shot in 8 bit was also encoded at 8 Mbps and the footage that doesn't play was shot on a 10 bit camera and coincidentally encoded at 10 Mbps.

We had this topic in 2015 about 4K. Very similar responses i.e. anti-4K. I used a 4K Oppo phone before I got a GH4. Terrible dynamic range and I didn't attempt anything other than bright daylight. Had to go back and re-shoot the videos with the GH4. The raw 4K sounds interesting. I shall look that up. Maybe there is a way to do raw 6K or 8K too? Apparently my Xiaomi upscales 6K to 8K anyway. Either way, I will be filming on my A6400 in 4K this time (attached to the phone), as I am not relying on phone video. I am just open to it for the sake of having some 8K footage. Maybe we will be back here in 2030 regarding 16K phones. 😉

Street photographers. Many like to be stealthy. I (actually the wife) used to have a pink Fuji. Bought a $10 black rubber case for it, then felt much more comfortable with it, taking close-up candid street photos. I wouldn't pay $500 extra but I would pay a bit more for black. Some street photographers are wealthier, or willing to spend more e.g. Leica owners.

Tried one once in a shop and it overheated in a couple of minutes doing it's highest quality video. Otherwise it was really nice. I love the Classic Negative film sim, for photos. But you can get that on any camera along with the newer Nostalgic Negative film sim with Cobalt Image. Maybe they fixed the overheating with firmware. If they did I wish I had purchased it at that time. Would have made some money by the sound of it, by selling it now. I still think I would prefer the feel of my Fuji XE2 for street photography (better EVF for me too). That charm is probably why people also like the X100V. I sometimes just look at and admire the XE2 on the shelf or after a fun photowalk. Did a bit with the X Pro 2 too. How much are X100Vs selling for?

I don't understand why you think phones are such a joke. Yes the Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro is a mid range phone, but it has a reasonably big sensor. It shoots video with a higher bitrate than Panasonics like the GX85, G85, G7, Sonys like my A6400 etc... It wasn't too long ago that people used camcorders with similarities to phones, sensor size-wise. The computing inside phones "can" be very impressive. Anyway, I am not expecting too much for £175, but it will be interesting to compare the phone to the camera. I wouldn't be surprised if the phone looks better in some circumstances on an 8K TV, like well lit simple day scenes. I ordered a hot shoe mount so they can both film the same thing at the same time. I will hopefully get good enough footage to come back and do a blind test.

You must have missed the bit about it needing to be 8K for 8K TVs. 😉 I have had a better camera than the G9 for 4K, the XT3. I have an OK one at the moment with the A6400 (which has far worse video options, like 100Mbps bitrate), it's more for travel and street photography. Those prices sound amazing for the Panasonics. Used Fuji prices have been going up a lot, maybe M43 is seen as dying now? Are M43 lenses cheaper now too? I do sometimes miss my G7 and one or two lenses I can't use on APSC, like the C mount Pentax Cosmicar 25mm f1.4.

Just to make videos to watch on 8K TVs, there isn't much out there. Nothing special. FYI. I learned the phone I got does upscaled 6K, I should have got the Xiaomi Mi 10 Ultra for real 8K. But if my laptop can handle the footage I will probably grab the XH2 if Sony doesn't come out with an 8K APSC option. Funds are too limited at the moment.

Ended up ordering a used Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro for £180 (probably around $220). Will try to remember to post an 8K sample after I get my hands on it in a month. I expect it will be decent for bright landscapes, but mushy and/or noisy for lowlight. Will probably bake in the look I want to avoid editing artifacts but I think it does shoot log, so will try pushing it with editing too. Sounds like the sensor is the same as the one in 3 year old Samsung flagships like the Note 20 Ultra (Samsung ISOCELL HMX sensor). But it will shoot at a higher bitrate. I thought the first very high MP sensor on a Samsung was a bit of a gimmick when I tried zooming in with it in a shop 2+ years ago. Fingers crossed this isn't mushy too.

The Redmi Note 9 Pro is apparently a rebrand of the Xiaomi Mi 10T Pro, seems to be the cheapest 8K video option with a bitrate above 100Mbps, but one video says it is just 6K video upscaled. Not much info out there but it is hard to ignore at less than half the price of the OnePlus 9 Pro. Considering going for a lesser bitrate with the LG V60 just to get the better headphone jack too (DAC AMP). If it does real 8K.

According to at least one website, the Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra (1/1.12 inch sensor) is better than the camera in the Xiaomi 12S Ultra (1 inch sensor). It does 8K video in H.265 at 130 Mbps, which means it should beat the 150 Mbps H.264 of the OnePlus 9 Pro. The Xiaomi Mi 11 Ultra costs more, around £600 used in the UK, which is double the £300 for the OnePlus 9 Pro. Samsung phones seem to do 8K at 80 Mbps bitrate. Seems the OnePlus 9 Pro is probably the best option for a low price. I would rather save up for a Fuji XH2 than buy a new £1k+ flagship like the Xiaomi 12S Ultra.

Surprisingly inexpensive for the OnePlus 9 Pro if buying used. Higher bitrate than I expected too at 150 Mbps, although it is H.264 not H.265. Thanks for the recommendations. I was expecting the bitrate to be under 50 and the cost to be over 1K, but this is available for under $400, making it quite appealing. Both phones seem to be quite old (March 2021 for the 9 and older for the 7), will be interesting to see if anyone recommends any newer models, especially any of the phones with 1 inch sensors, as I would like the lowlight benefit a bigger sensor should bring. Just been looking at a Xiaomi with a 1 inch sensor which noticeably beat a competitor for lowlight photos. In case anyone else is interested I found this useful page for a list of most phones that can shoot 8K https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mobile_phones_with_8K_video_recording (it doesn't have them all like the Xiaomi 12S Ultra I was looking at earlier on YouTube).

Which phone can film the best 8K video? I am worried more about bitrate and dynamic range than stabilization as I will use a tripod. Thanks.

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Yeah, I am almont scared that they will offer Medium Format at too tempting a price to refuse (but it will really test my credit card). Good to hear they are bringing the size down.

Yeah, I am almont scared that they will offer Medium Format at too tempting a price to refuse (but it will really test my credit card). Good to hear they are bringing the size down.

Yeah, I am almont scared that they will offer Medium Format at too tempting a price to refuse (but it will really test my credit card). Good to hear they are bringing the size down.