TomTheDP

The cinematography and visuals were absolutely astounding. I enjoyed the production design and casting as well. The story, pacing and editing left some to be desired though. I was getting sleepy in the third act both times I watched it at the cinema.

@kye They all look nice, taken at different dates though. The GH6 looks quite natural. @Django Yeah I think the Komodo is the most compelling option right now. I'd be all over it if it wasn't made by RED.

It seems to retain color much better underexposed than the GH5, GH5S or Pocket 4k. I don't mind noise that much, ARRI gets noisy underexposed but the color doesn't look wack.

I don't know I am often needing dynamic range indoors when dealing with windows and often shoot at 4000 iso on my S1 indoors. Dynamic range in lower light situations is helpful, especially in the shadows which is where the DGO sensors seem to shine. Yeah it would be nice if the GH6 had more dynamic range but its honestly very respectable and maintaining color accuracy throughout the dynamic range is more important than the dynamic range itself. The S1H released with terrible NR baked in but it was later fixed. The S1 released without that issue and looks incredibly organic. The GH5 had the same NR issue upon release but was later fixed. The GH5 always did have a sharpened look, but the S1/S1H doesn't have that. BRAW has sort of a softer look, not sure why but its some sort of processing going on. If you shoot CDNG on BM cameras you'll see the difference in texture. It's a pretty subtle thing, probably doesn't really matter. Would be more apparent on the big screen like anything else.

They have similar highlight latitude but when underexposed the P4K doesn't do as well, especially with color. Now the P6K is pretty excellent in that regard, however I have heard issues of fixed noise patterns when the sensor gets hot. The P6K also has no so great rolling shutter. Panasonic has also been known to have a less processed image with more texture.

Sony color may have been accurate under proper single source lighting in a studio but the real test is under poor lighting conditions. That is where Canon, RED and ARRI are doing their things.

Imma buy this as soon as I can lol. If it had internal prores RAW that would be icing on the cake, but we can thank RED for that not happening. Even with the M1 chip mac H264 and H265 still suck for editing. Its a huge hassle to transcode to Prores. It makes me not want to shoot on the S1. External recorders are annoying as well. There is a question of why not just get a Pocket 4k but I think the GH6 has many advantages including an inherently better DGO sensor. Of course you don't get BRAW, but I really don't need RAW. I am also a loyal Panasonic guy.

ISO 12,800 gives you the opportunity to shoot at higher f-stops in lowlight, which was traditionally impossible without a lot of artificial light. But anyways the GH6 looks like a solid low light performer and just a good all around performer.

6 stops under is dramatic but this issue shows up at 2 stops under. I have noticed in RAW its not there, even at 6 stops under its not there.

Yeah I usually never use Neat Video or things of that nature. Its not bad by any means but I have definitely noticed it not holding up as much as regular 24p when underexposed.

The dynamic range in the highlights on the S1H/S1/S5 is better however it quickly falls apart in the shadows. They all display vertical banding when underexposed. This is something overlooked in dynamic range tests. I also think the 4k 60p on the GH6 looks a lot better than the cropped 4k 60p on the S1 series. I see what you mean the the S5 is pretty damn good and is full frame, so the want to switch won't be for everyone.

From CVP's over under testing the GH6 clearly does better then the GH5 and GH5S. The S1 and S1H also quickly get really bad horizontal banding when underexposed. To me those dynamic range numbers are kind of meaningless.

CineD botched the dynamic range testing on the GH6. They measured the GH6 in non boost mode at 800 iso when the native is 250 iso. The GH6 even in non boost DR mode has more dynamic range than both the GH5S and the GH5. Cined really needs to get their act together. They are currently claiming the dynamic range in non boost mode is the worst of any modern M43 camera. Kind of a turn off for people who want to use 4k 120p. WTF The GH6 looks better then the competition in the shadows. The S1 takes the cake for highlights. I love highlight retention I just like having an even balance of highlight to shadow detail. Also when talking highlight detail the RED Komodo, which is seeing a ton of use on all levels of production, actually only has a little over 4 stops. So the GH6 isn't doing bad at all.

2.8 crop is excessive unless you are shooting with S16 lenses. Practically super thin DOF is only doable with auto focus unless you are doing static shots or have a really good focus puller. I've found I rarely stop down below 2.8 with S35 as its hard to get focus. 2.8 or 1.8 on full frame is ridiculous. As a B cam something getting a longer DOF is nice. For wider shots is nice to have as much DOF as possible but for close ups you already have plenty even at f5.6-8 in most situations. I think the is a niche camera but its interesting to me which wasn't really expected. My issue with the S1 is not so great rolling shutter and lacking in the shadows. I like evenly balanced dynamic range in the shadows and highlights.

Yeah it could be a nice camera for S16 lenses. Seems to have the best DR of M43 cameras. I do prefer when you can use the whole sensor though. A 6k or native 4k S16 camera would be neat. Pretty niche though. The color on the GH6 looks superior to previous GH cameras and maybe even superior to the S1 series. It doesn't retain highlights as well as the S1 but the shadows look a lot better potentially. The internal prores and fast RS make it a big want for me. Maybe I can sell my S1 and get it haha.

I honestly wish M43 cameras had more cropped sensors so you could use S16 lenses easier. Give me a 3x crop lol. The GH6 does look attractive as a B-cam. 4 stops in the highlights is reasonable. The S1 can handle about 5 stops in the highlights, though the shadow retention looks superior on the GH6. How the shadows perform is very important to me. With lower end cameras you seem to be either trading off ugly shadows or ugly highlights. The GH6 might be an ok balance of the two. 2000 iso doesn't bother me. I actually like being able to stop down on lenses rather than going wide open all the time. I also prefer one native ISO to dual. I find I like the sensor performance from single native ISO cameras better. Internal prores and low rolling shutter make it something I am interested in for sure.

The tests I've seen indicate 4 and 1/2 stops over and about the same under. Some of the highlight retention seems to be software based like davinci highlight recovery. So less color information but still retaining detail. Pretty much similar dynamic range to other RED cameras.

The Alexa obviously is great. Great underexposed, pleasant noise pattern. RED Komodo is really nice as well, as long as you are blackshaded. Though I think there is a bit more color cast when underexposed. Yeah there may be something about rolling shutter that makes motion feel organic. Its so minimal on the Alexa, barely even noticeable when whip panning on longer lenses. The motion on the Komodo feels less organic, maybe global shutter is too perfect? or maybe the global shutter has nothing to do with the "feel" of the motion. Of course you can't beat global shutter if you are shooting camera strobe lights. RED's do tend to be nice underexposed. Noise gets heavy but they retain so much info so it doesn't looked crushed like cheaper cameras. Though the color does certainly shift, the OLPF you have in can help(depending what model you have?). Gets confusing with all the different models. I kind of like the Komodo maybe more then all their other models. It's not ARRI tho....

I think the future is something aside from video we have now. We aren't lacking in resolution at this point. Our images just look flat because they are. I am not sure if 3D is the way forward as I hate it but maybe something like that.

It's behind the Pana S1 and C70 in terms of dynamic range. But probably close enough to where it doesn't matter that much. The low rolling shutter is a huge plus. It sets it apart as a professional tool from the P6K, C70, and S1H. Also the 120p doesn't have lower dynamic range like on the C70 and the P6K and S1H's 120p is barely usable. The E-ND is also a huge plus. Also it has full size SDI and the body doesn't feel like a toy, looking at you C70.

Yeah the shadow dynamic range is really helpful. I've heard bad things about the highlights but 4 stops is respectable. The S1H tops it by maybe a stop but the shadows are not really very usable past 2 stops under.

Its an amazing image!! @Josue Nunezbeautiful !!

Maybe it'll be a contender as a narrative camera. Though at 10k res maybe not. 🤔

I don't know there is a pretty big push for older aesthetics among young people. The entertainment space is becoming more and more diverse. Classic anime is hugely popular with younger people. There is room for all aesthetics imo. I kind of agree with you on anamorphic lenses, I am not a big fan, at least for most stuff. I value lens choice a lot more than camera though. The lens you use is the difference between a sharp and soft image.

Colorspace transform or whatever you use to conform to ARRI log doesn't really work well. Even using extremely carefully designed luts like Alex at emotive color makes isn't perfect. Not that it matters as clients generally have no taste, especially ones that can't afford a high end camera/media producer.