Davide DB

It all sounds beautiful but it is not. The devil is in the details. Making an 2 nm chip that allows you to do what an iPhone or an A7SIII, a Z9 or an R1 does costs bazillions of euros to design and build. And who pays for it? Us! And where are the profit margins? In the number of gadgets sold. And here perhaps we are missing something: Number of iPhones sold worldwide in 2023: 231 million units https://www.statista.com/statistics/276306/global-apple-iphone-sales-since-fiscal-year-2007/ Number of cameras sold worldwide in 2023: https://www.43rumors.com/nikkei-published-the-worldwide-market-share-2023-panasonic-and-om-digital-on-5th-and-6th-spot So the magic 2nm chip shipped in 231 million iPhones (€1500) must be divided between the 3 million lucky Canon camera owners and 800,000 poor Panasonic users.

Those camera are for a completely different segment. They are in same league of remote and ptz camera like Sony: https://pro.sony/en_BA/products/ptz-cameras

Note, and with this I swear this is the last conspiracy post I make, that immediately following the announcement the usual rumors about the specifications of the new S1HII came out immediately. Either they realized the mess and tried to fix it or the geniuses thought the rumors would be enough to appease the user base. I shut up

As I wrote here the problem is all in the marketing department that should be sent to Siberia immediately. It is clear that these two products are aimed at a professional niche audience (evidently filling some broadcast market gap) since even the web pages are on the Pana pro site and not Lumix. No event, no influencers... Even the technical features are listed almost mysteriously. A sign that it is not aimed at the classic Lumix audience. The problem is the timing. You almost sneak out such a product while your entire Lumix user base has been waiting over a year for the new iteration of S1 models. Suicide. Now half your Lumix customers think you're finished. I repeat: siberia, siberia!!!!

I'm lost. Did BGS1 and BGH1 have dual native ISO or it's a new implementation? is all of this a preview of what we will see on S2H? Dual Native ISO Both models come with Dual Native ISO for high-sensitivity video even in low-light environments, allowing shooting with compact lighting equipment or natural light without significantly compromising video quality. This also reduces the need for extensive post-production work, such as noise reduction. In ISO Auto mode, ISO sensitivity is displayed in real time to visualize noise levels while shooting.

Announcement given half-heartedly. Almost as if they were ashamed. Panasonic's marketing should be fired on the spot.

BGS1 and BGH1?

Yes you are right but it is difficult to get into the heads of managers, especially Japanese.

It all revolves around what Nikon acquisition of Red means. Everything and the opposite of everything has been said but so far no move by the two companies other than a few statements to keep investors and customers quiet. It all depends on whether we will have: A new Nikon iteration with Red technology A new Red iteration with Nikon technology. Then the money always ends up in the same pockets. IMO, the second option is more likely: DPs and directors are the most reactionary groups that exist.

I was watching one of Canon's promotional videos and related BTS, and I was reflecting that Canon has always been very good at choosing its advertising materials. Its promotional videos are never dull. In contrast, the Panasonic/Lumix promotional videos are on average terrible, and in general Lumix's marketing strategy is terrible. I remember a video of the GH7 and I wanted to shoot myself in the balls because of how clichéd it was. Of course I am talking about the artistic and communicative choices that are independent of the quality of the advertised product.

When I feel sad, to cheer myself up I always go and read the comments on Andrea's rumors sites. Some people have been eating peyote. Random comment:

What is exactly this SRAW and is it better than h265?

Could you give us your impression for the new camera coming from the R5?

Is it possible that it lacks a one button MWB?

Do you like it? I see a strong blue cast coming from the bad indoor artificial lights. I can hear the DoP scratching his head...

I've just seen it on theatre and it's simply stunning. Extreme depth of field in all desert shots gives you the impression to be there.

Nope. I'm just copy pasting a FB post of Filippo Chiesa (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeDcSWVeLZnSj6N9JjNexyw) He meant "TV Network," and in the comments he specifies that they have made up 90 percent of his customers for many, many years. He rarely gets asked for a Canon camera, but he specifies that everyone's experience may be different. He has a pragmatic approach: if you film on your own, use the camera you like best. If you work on commission, use the camera the client asks for.

Everything except this: A camera design and production is a lengthy process. You don't redesign and produce a camera in six months and probably not even a year.

To go back to the old argument about “what I like and what the customer asks for....” This post by Filippo Chiesa on FB says it all. I'll translate it for you on the fly even though it's easy to do with Google. Also interesting are the comments to people who insist on their preferences and the responses from who pay the bills every month with his work. https://www.facebook.com/1370200475/posts/10232791406232061/ From comments section:

Disclaimer: I'm sure this is a bombastic camera but the article is way below the minimum journalism standard. It is really shameful how they distort reality or omit details that make a difference. How disgusting. And

In the meantime dpreview published the spec detail clarification for video: https://m.dpreview.com/articles/9830877104/canon-eos-r5-ii-for-video-what-you-need-to-know

There's always the beloved old LX10...

@zlfan trying not to hijack the R5II thread... The final short film