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All depends. My Nikon Z6 8-bit 420 is pretty solid.

Shilling at its finest.

When they say you don’t need this or that and can use cheap gear, and then proceed to use and advertise expensive gear. These guys annoy me greatly.

Agreed. Despite them being useful for the camera I currently own, I agree they are pointless in a lot of circumstances. Even my current setup right now, if one were to buy a used Z6 and a Ninja V, it would be approaching prices of cameras that can do an identical image internally. My setup made a lot of sense in early 2021 when I bought it; I already owned a Ninja V so the Z6 was the cheapest way to get 10 bit full-frame 4k and phase-detect autofocus. Very different landscape now. I really do agree that the market for external recorders is shrinking rapidly. I probably won't sell my Ninja V if I upgrade to a camera doing internal 10-bit; the resale value just makes me prefer to keep it. Besides, at least it will help me get Prores RAW out of a variety of cameras, which I can convert to CDNG if I really want to.

Yes this video so absolutely incredible haha

I’m technically an atomos customer cause I have a Ninja V and a Ninja Star. Only have them because I still shoot with a Nikon Z6. The Ninja V is a fine product, just seems unnecessary for any new camera anymore. Yes beneficial to mine but I don’t feel like I’m getting a better image than a canon r6 r7 or r8 going straight to the card. The Ninja Star is awesome but discontinued and I doubt they will ever make one again. Resale value is kinda lame on the Ninja V, Ninia Star I could probably flip because they are very hard to come by. Again, they work well but I don’t love Atomos as a company. Needing to activate ProRes RAW and tell them the date I purchased the product etc etc is just weird and unnecessary in my book.

Reviving a super old thread here. Came across a recent review of a Sony RX10 ii. Still an awesome camera.

Some 8-bit stuff I shot a few months ago and finally got around to editing. Graded with one of the Fuji film-luts in Davinci Resolve. I got my white balance pretty close which helped a lot. I've found the 8-bit color to be pretty solid as long as my white balance is good and I'm not underexposed. Need to get better at nailing those things for run-and-gun stuff. Whenever I shoot 10 bit I get less strict with spot-on WB because I know I can tweak in post lol.

I filmed recently on a Sony a7iii with modified slog2. Color mode set to ITU709. Graded with. Resolve CST. Nail your white balance and your skin tone is honestly really solid. Sony 8 bit does have legs in 2024.

“Flexible Options for Diverse Expression Based on Your Imagination.” Finally, now I can use my imagination when filming. Didn’t know I could do that.

Will do. I always hated the older Nikon rec709 LUT, opting to do a CST in davinci instead.

I will be playing with these and will report back results!

https://www.nikonusa.com/content/red-luts Excited to try these. RED color (or maybe RED-ish color) for Nikon is a win in my book. The fact that these work on my 6 year old OG Z6 is awesome. That camera truly has aged like fine wine.

Man Panasonic must have utterly insane IBIS. I used a canon r5 this summer and consistently filmed with IBIS + EIS on. I found if I heel-toe walked and then applied warp stabilizer it consistently looked like I filmed with a gimbal or used gyro stabilization. If the Canok R5 is that good I can only imagine how impressed I would be if I held an s5 II or a gh7 right now. Thinking of switching to an s5 II or a g9ii paired with very fast glass for that very reason.

And it has SDI out 😉

Biggest caveat is I find them to be rather cheaply built. Micro HDMI sucks too.

Can confirm these are awesome. My church has 3 fz1000s being used in a multicam live-stream setup I built. Great image quality, awesome zoom range and clean HDMI out that is good except it doesn’t have the lowest latency out there. The lens so good especially on the long end.

I tried using just pure gyro logging on my iPhone mounted to my Z6, but easily got lost trying to find matching gyro files, especially if I forgot to log for a take or whatnot which would throw off my sequential order of gyro clips. Having a visual reference is way better. Of course, in a perfect world we would get internal gyro like on new Sony bodies, blackmagic cams and reds, but this is a solid workaround. I also have played with both After Effect’s Pixel Motion Blur and Davinci Resolve Studio’s motion blur. Both are good; AE might be a bit more accurate, Davinci’s faster, but both work well. I will say for very fast moving stuff though it’s very hit or miss. And I am starting to realize the tediousness of the post-production workflow.

Yep. I find the most efficient workflow for those who need external gyro loggers is to use either a phone with the GyroCam app or an action camera. This is because they record video as well as the gyro data. Then when you come across a clip from your mirrorless camera you want to stabilize, just find the corresponding video clip where the same action is occurring; then you just sync up the gyro.

I need to actually film an example that I post online, but gyroflow is quite impressive at least if you film wide. Easy to get a steadicam look or a gimbal look, if you are going for more of a steadicam/stable handheld look you don’t have to crop in much. Only annoyance is with my Nikon Z6 there is no internal gyro recording so I have to use an external device (my phone). Cameras like the Sony fx30 look so tempting because they record internal gyro; seems like such an easy workflow.

Mixture of 8 bit and external 10 bit. The first location is definitely 8 bit.

So cool to have this thread created. Hope everyone is well; haven’t been active in a while. Still love my Z6. Super nice 8 bit image and if you nail your WB grades very nicely. Neutral with I-dynamic on high or Nikon flat with I-dynamic (for very extreme scenes) provides nice colors, decent flexibility and range in post. Grades nicely in Davinci. Autofocus is usable, nowhere near what the latest Canons and Sonys can do but still really solid. If you can get an Atomos Ninja Star you can record oversampled 6k>1080p 10 bit 422 prores which gives a beautiful image and grades just as well as anything out there. One of the best 1080p cams for the money in that regard. 4k 10 bit out of the HDMI to something like a Ninja V looks great; the image holds up with really anything else (Canon R6 II, Sony FX30, etc) but it’s not my favorite setup in terms of ergonomics, weight or battery management. Nice to have as an option but I’d much rather have internal 10 bit log. That being said, the internal 8 bit is great most of the time.

A-Roll is completely 8-bit

Half of the shots in this video I shot are in 8-bit rec709 but graded in post. Learn your gear and 8 bit is just fine.