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Agreed, certainly a unique featureset. Really the only option other than the Sigma FP/FP L and the ultra-expensive Z9, when it comes to a hybrid camera with internal RAW video. Unless you count the sweet sweet 5d III w/Magic Lantern 🙂

Canon is to the cinema world what computers are to the elderly. Both just don’t make sense… I mean, having such horrendous highlight rolloff is unacceptable in 2022. When it’s equivalent to the lowest quality 4k from the freaking 5 year old GH5, that’s just sad. I don’t hear anyone talking about it, they probably want to keep getting their free review units haha. And then we have the whole fiasco with the R5, they just magically fixed overheating conveniently after the release of the R5C. This weirdness goes so far back, like Canon disabling DPAF in 4k, requiring a hardware upgrade just to add CLOG to the 5d iv, giving the EOS R free CLOG but not any form whatsoever on the top of the line 1dx mark ii, and flat out removing 24p from several cameras

Quite pathetic I must admit. Solid highlight rolloff is such a big part of a cinematic image, huge key to emulating film.

I definately see unique, often hidden advantages to shooting with Nikon cameras; the flat profile is mind-blowing with the amount of shadow detail it captures, considering it’s not a log profile. Still not NLOG or Prores RAW level but surprising. And NLOG (and I imagine Prores raw) make the camera shine. If the Z6 is this good I can only imagine how beast mode the Z9 is!

Haha yes I suppose I am. I’m most likely going to do the Prores RAW upgrade for the Z6, I know it’s line-skipped but I doubt moire will be an issue in the real world, I can convert to CinemaDNG for resolve use, turn off sharpening and noise reduction, yummy organic RAW images with IBIS and autofocus, for less money than an a7iv

Please do! Could be a total option; HLG may be able to be converted to VLOG in Davinci Resolve. You could shoot 4k60p and use optical flow to smoothly play-back in real-time at 24p without frame dropping. A potential solution for Panasonic full-frame with decent autofocus.

Oh well the forum decided it didn’t want to embed!

https://youtu.be/9cT0jXI7l4E

I think DOF adapters could have potential; existing phone solutions appear cheaply made with image artifacts such as extreme corner distortion and severe softness. DIY Perks seems to have nailed the DOF adapter in this custom extra-large-sensor rig. Image looking very clean on the R5, I imagine something like this could be severely scaled down; maybe to micro 4/3 size so we can use affordable cheap manual focus primes, keeping a small-ish form factor but still gaining actual shallow DOF and being able to shoot DNG RAW. I assume some of the MotionCam RAW output on the largest-sensored smartphones may even be comparable to a RAW still from an actually MFT body like a Gh5!

Awesome, very nice of you to give it to herein2020. Appreciate the contributions you both have made to this forum.

That’s very unfortunate! I hear you about the highlight rolloff, and in fact can relate. About half of my work consists of talking head footage where I can bring in big diffusion and spend time getting the lighting just as I like. But a large chunk of my work is also event recaps, where I have to often make do with whatever lighting is available. Thus I need a camera system which handles both scenereos well. It’s why I love NLOG on my Nikon Z6, the highlight rolloff is just excellent! As a result, if I have to film outdoors midday with the sun right in someone’s face and I don’t have the luxury of asking the person to kindly move to the shade or wait till golden hour and repeat their exact face of excitement…the smooth highlight rolloff NLOG and the Z6’s sensor provides really does save the day, and I find it substantially improved image quality when I’m not in ideal circumstances. Hearing that the highlight rolloff is that poor is not only quite surprising, given the fact that it has full fat CLOG3, but also a borderline dealbreaker for me! Have any example clips?

Yes thank you so much for the constant resources!

Backbone did a C-mount mod to the tiny Sony RX0, as well as many small GoPros. I don’t see how it could be done to a phone with some DIY knowledge. Would also open up the opportunity to get some actual shallow DOF!

Though I do understand not wanting to show the original comparison, saying as there were some errors. Still though, errors aside it would have been interesting to see.

Too bad, I would have loved to see it, maybe do a review of the EM1X?

How is the EM1X vs OM1 comparison fairing out?

Nice. I’m thinking of getting the Prores RAW upgrade for the Nikon Z6. Then I will use Raw Convertor to convert it to cinema dng. I was curious if the quality between PRR and CDNG is comparable, so I’m glad to hear it’s a yes.

Yep, I still love the old school Kinotika 1DC videos! Such an organic image.

How do you guys find Prores RAW on the Sigma compared to CDNG?

I don’t really know why to be honest.

Wow. Seriously has some mojo.

My thoughts: I would say DO IT! First publish your OM1 comparison tonight if that was your original plan, as I’m dying to see it. And then we would all love to see that comparison! Seriously I eat up your camera articles, I miss them and that has always been a HUGE appeal to the site. I believe the same held true to many others!

Neat, thanks for the explanatiin

We all mess up, don’t worry. Still really want to see the test though! Maybe just put a disclaimer in the opening paragraph? The EM1X looks like a beast. The stabilization when in Mode 1 appears to be near steadicam-level! I imagine the 8 bit image grades very well. OM LOG on the EM1X isn’t very flat, similar looking to canon log, which we all know is the 8 bit dream picture profile! And you still get solid GH5-beating autofocus, plus I imagine the used prices aren’t crazy. Please i would love to see the comparison! I imagine more content like this would also breathe life to EOSHD!

Alternatively I could break out my old Panasonic G7 and Meike 25mm 1.7 manual lens. Bare bones indeed…