Anyone been using Edelkrone rigs for their GH2 or DSLR for shoots???

[dreams2movies]

http://www.edelkrone.com/

I wanted to get their pocket rig and their modular 5... I don't care to much about spending much on RIGS... this is only only filming equipment i have a low budget for.. I leave my expensive budget for LENSES, CRANE/JIB, and CINESTAR 6

Anyone else with an Edelkrone???

[Axel]

Edelkrone (german for [i]noble crown[/i], sounds like a cheap beer) was formerly known as handyfilmtools, a turkish company. They are trustworthy and their design ideas are good. The clip about the pocket rig made many buy it. Most of them are satisfied, but also there are complaints about the manufacture quality.

If you don't want to spent too much money for rigs, I recommend a few, some DIY:

The pistol grip with a universal quick release plate, see my avatar.
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57198583/Griff1.jpg[/img]

You hold the GH2 like a Super 8 camera. You hold the grip with your right hand and press it to your eye (works without rubber eyepiece - this one indeed from an old Super 8 - but might cause some pain then and not in harsh sunlight). No shakes. Your left hand operates the focus, better than with any follow focus gear. Costs below 40 €, mainly for the plate. Weighs 170 g.

Then I recommend the lightweight and small Hague MMC (ebay). Use it with another quick release unit, and you will have it balanced within a few seconds every time. Add this JJC lcd sunhood (~16 €):
[img]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Bt71FILZL._SL500_AA300_.jpg[/img]
Hague, QRU, sunhood make ~130 €. This stabilizer works best with wide angles and preferably autofocus (i.e. kit lens, I use the Olympus 12mm).

For a shoulder rig, use aluminium parts. This rig is made from spare parts (among others two rack blinds), and the three things I [i]bought[/i] were again the quick release unit, the foam rubber for the shoulder pad and the bicycle grip coating (~40 €):
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57198583/Audio-Rig.jpg[/img]
[img]https://dl.dropbox.com/u/57198583/Polster-1.jpg[/img]
You [i]could[/i] built a rig for an external monitor, but what would that be good for?

As tripod, I have the Sachtler Ace, which really gives you the most bang for the buck. Much cheaper tripods also do, but *if* you want to do perfect pans, they won't suffice. Imho, pans are almost as amateurish as zooms, but sometimes people know how to use them. Andrew Reid is one of those. His pans are porno. Of course, on the Ace, there is another quick release unit. No more screws.

[moebius22]

Putting a hood on a swivel screen looks risky.

[Axel]

[quote name='moebius22' timestamp='1343891562' post='14819']
Putting a hood on a swivel screen looks risky.
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Soft leather, velcroed. Not much weight on the hinge or what do you mean? I am sure (own bad luck) that with external monitors much more cameras are destroyed. Rather sooner than later you accidentally hit against or draw at the HDMI cable and the jack is hurt.

[Mirrorkisser]

Hi Axel, you put a quick release plate on the hague MMC? So you dont use the original scew?

Cheers

[marcuswolschon]

[quote name='moebius22' timestamp='1343891562' post='14819']
Putting a hood on a swivel screen looks risky.
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I did that with a 3d printed one in ABS. No problem.
Even using it as a viewfinder works well mechanically.
http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:7849

[nahua]

I have an Edelkrone, I'll try and take a pic and post it tomorrow. Great rig, but it is bulky.

[dreams2movies]

Yes, Edelkrone rigs look good! my budget for a rig, and i only need one for starters, would be $600 or less.. for which my choices are:

- Edelkrone pocket rig http://www.edelkrone.com/the-pocket-rig/

- Edelkrone Modular 3 and I'll buy rods later.... http://www.edelkrone.com/modula3/

- D/Focus Cine Bundle camera support with rod, follow focus and Matte box http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/871300-REG/D_Focus_Systems_302_Cine_Bundle_Camera_Support.html

OR

- D/Focus Austin Rig Bundle http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/871304-REG/D_Focus_Systems_403_Austin_Rig_Bundle.html

[nahua]

Sorry it took so long for me to upload this. Edelkrone Modula 5 w/ Focus One follow focus. SmallHD DP4, Zoom H4n w/ Azden shorty shotgun mic (going for a Rode NTG2 soon) and generic LED light up top.

[img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/13677/502cc27749ed6__OB_2194.jpg[/img][img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/13677/502cc33a26d2d__OB_2204.jpg[/img]

[QuickHitRecord]

The pocket rig blocks access to the battery compartment on the GH2 and there is only one point of contact for mounting it on a tripod (at the end of the stem), so it does tend to move. Other than that, it's a handy tool for sure.

[XXX]

@nahua
What kind of lenshood do you use there?

[QuickHitRecord]

[quote name='XXX' timestamp='1345125434' post='15802']
@nahua
What kind of lenshood do you use there?
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It's a Panasonic LA7200 anamorphic adapter. But it does look a lot like a lens hood. ;-)

[XXX]

Ah thanks, so you´re double lucky ;)

[dreams2movies]

[quote name='nahua' timestamp='1345110906' post='15797']
Sorry it took so long for me to upload this. Edelkrone Modula 5 w/ Focus One follow focus. SmallHD DP4, Zoom H4n w/ Azden shorty shotgun mic (going for a Rode NTG2 soon) and generic LED light up top.

[img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/13677/502cc27749ed6__OB_2194.jpg[/img][img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/13677/502cc33a26d2d__OB_2204.jpg[/img]
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WOW, looks GREAT MAN!!! I need a setup just like this for Weddings!!! and for filmmaking too. Is it up for Rent! Lol

So which EVF did you go with? you got any videos of it in motion? if not, can you do some!

[Tim]

I looked at Edelkrone rigs but I thought they were too expensive for my budget, so I went the cheaper route.

[img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/14211/502e209c8660e_394551_10151336869088135_219875232_n.jpg[/img]

This is my frankenrig which I've bought from ebay: [url="http://stores.ebay.com/photoworldshop/Video-Photography-/_i.html?_fsub=157015319&_sid=190725419&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322"]http://stores.ebay.com/photoworldshop/Video-Photography-/_i.html?_fsub=157015319&_sid=190725419&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322[/url]

Andrew's article about the follow focus ([url="http://www.eoshd.com/content/3291/reviews-of-jins-affordable-dslr-video-rig-rails-and-follow-focus"]http://www.eoshd.com/content/3291/reviews-of-jins-affordable-dslr-video-rig-rails-and-follow-focus[/url]) is what led me to the seller's items.

I got the setup for a few hundred dollars and I've been very pleased with it so far. However, you do get what you pay for. When it arrived the thread on the rails wasn't machined properly so I had to file it down until it fit. So if you're comfortable with possibly having to do that then I say why not?

[dreams2movies]

Thanks for the pass on! now I have so many options!!! I'm so glad the prices on the Matte boxes have REALLY gone down.. D/Focus, and other ebay stores have them for less than $200!

Come my next check I have free to spend, I will be getting Matte Box, Follow focus base plate with rails, then next time will be an actual Rig!

[nahua]

[quote name='dreams2movies' timestamp='1345152438' post='15840']
WOW, looks GREAT MAN!!! I need a setup just like this for Weddings!!! and for filmmaking too. Is it up for Rent! Lol

So which EVF did you go with? you got any videos of it in motion? if not, can you do some!
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Sorry I don't have any videos of me using it, I'm usually the one taking videos. It's really great for weddings. I'd like to rent it too! LOL I have a SmallHD DP4, so I could get the eyecup option, but I usually use the fabric hood (sorry not shown). In any case it works really well even though it cost me an arm and a leg!!

[dreams2movies]

[quote name='nahua' timestamp='1345287337' post='15958']
Sorry I don't have any videos of me using it, I'm usually the one taking videos. It's really great for weddings. I'd like to rent it too! LOL I have a SmallHD DP4, so I could get the eyecup option, but I usually use the fabric hood (sorry not shown). In any case it works really well even though it cost me an arm and a leg!!
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ok, which Follow focus is that? is it Edelkrone? and I notice your Matte Box isn't rigged to the 15mm rods, does your mattebox accept rods? or is GH2 sitting too high?

Maybe Christmas time, Edelkrone has a big sale going!

[nahua]

The follow focus is Edelkrone's Focus One. That isn't a matte box, it's the Panasonic LA7200 Anamorphic adapter mated to my Panasonic 14-43mm lens. I'm getting some lens supports for it. I may get a matte box in the future, but so far I don't need one. I wish Edelkrone would have a sale too. LOL BTW you can get parts of their rigs separately, so you if you have some rods you don't need to get their packaged rigs, you can make your own.

[Germy1979]

[quote name='nahua' timestamp='1345110906' post='15797']
Sorry it took so long for me to upload this. Edelkrone Modula 5 w/ Focus One follow focus. SmallHD DP4, Zoom H4n w/ Azden shorty shotgun mic (going for a Rode NTG2 soon) and generic LED light up top.

[img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/13677/502cc27749ed6__OB_2194.jpg[/img][img]http://www.eoshd.com/comments/uploads/inline/13677/502cc33a26d2d__OB_2204.jpg[/img]
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Holy sh-t. Where's the camera? That looks like a transformer, lol. Killer rig man