Kineraw S35 priced to kill - 2K 12bit Raw (from 4K sensor) for $6K

[Andrew Reid]

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This much anticipated 'Chinese Alexa' basic kit has been officially priced for pre-orders at a shocking $6300.

[vas907]

It's great times to be a film maker. I really hope to see support for higher frame rates in the future. But for S35 sensor with 12bit raw the price point is really in the money for us budget film makers.

[retrospective]

Its what the FS700 could have been...or F3 for that matter.

[hempo22]

Not the camera for me and my production company, but I really dig the image. All the samples reminds me a lot of Kar Wai Wong's movies and the work of the amazing Christopher Doyle :)

[HurtinMinorKey]

I really think this could be the one.

[wondo]

where`s the big advantage over the bmd camera? i mean 4000$ advantage.. (actually 5k if you consider the software..)
oh, you need to buy a monitor as well (we`re at 6k now)
ok, more sensor real estate, and maybe the mount options (extra $$) but that`s it...
is the eos mount capable of stopping down lenses?
if your`re on a budget you should rather buy glass.
anyways, would love to see a "shootout"...

[HurtinMinorKey]

Full frame versus tiny frame, higher bit rates, down sampling. It also wins the best preview clip award.

[richg101]

beautiful footage. I retract all my less positive initial remarks from when they first unveiled that giant pc tower sized prototype. the pictures look amazing

[Shawn_Lights]

I actually played with some of the footage. It's amazing. Worked great in premiere pro CS6.

I think this can be the camera that most of us been waiting on. The only question really is support. Hopefully they partner with someone to tackle this. I actually read somewhere that they were going to try to partner with someone so if something goes wrong you won't have to ship your cam all the way to China.

This is the camera I'm most interested in. Then the BMCC.

[TC]

It's a welcome addition to the party and the footage looks great. But it seems to me that (apart from sensor size) you get more for less with the Blackmagic Camera. But Blackmagic needs to start shipping soon, because their competitors are moving forward too.

[Xiong]

Yay! More competition means better for us :)

[Zigmars Zilgalvis]

Amazing footage, this is my favorite so far! Very very cinematic look and motion. Damn, now it's between this and FS700... that's gona take some time to figure it out!

[jgharding]

I love the look of this one. I do prefer the footage I've seen from this to what I've seen from BMD too, plus the form factor with lots of buttons looks solid.

I hope they keep the OS as simple as Alexa too, that'd be wonderful. Alexa is so robust and easy to use. It's easier than an EOS.

[jgharding]

You can try out Alexa here: [url="http://www.arri.de/camera/digital_cameras/tools/alexa_camera_simulator.html"]http://www.arri.de/camera/digital_cameras/tools/alexa_camera_simulator.html[/url]

[richg101]

I think their footage has the edge over the BMDCC due to the subject and the colorist more than the dof and image quality differences. BMD need to give their camera to a real artist because i felt the subjects shot on the bmd so far are boring to look at.

[rungvang]

Well, it doesn't suprise me since China can copy or fake pretty much everything with a cheap price and decent quality

[Andrew Reid]

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Well, it doesn't suprise me since China can copy or fake pretty much everything with a cheap price and decent quality
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This doesn't give them enough credit I'm afraid. The technical expertise and talent you need to build a cinema camera like this is extraordinarily high. They didn't just order everything from Germany, or copy some white paper by Arri.

[rungvang]

I agree with you that they do have talent. They even copy from the Russian Su27 fighter aircraft and made their own jet, camera is nothing.

[KarimNassar]

and one more camera to look forward to :)

[jgharding]

I feel sensor size is an issue. Even if it's twice the BMDs price I'm sure Kineraw S35 is gonna help you capture the deep, movie feel more easily than the heavy crop of the BMD, with equivalent lighting etc. BMD has a lot less physical space gathering light than S35...

I have the RX100 and it's a bit dead but it's useful. Try out a medium format stills camera with no AA filter and you're looking at creepily 3D pictures (if you light it well of course), a huge area gathering light. IT definitely makes a difference. Roll on medium format video! ;)