Administrators Andrew Reid Posted September 18, 2012 Administrators Share Posted September 18, 2012 [url="http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/G44C0207.jpg"][img]http://www.eoshd.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/G44C0207.jpg[/img][/url] Panasonic's Philipp Wolf showed me the inner-workings of the new GH3 at Photokina today. I was then let loose with the camera to shoot some test footage in 1080/25p ALL-I and 50Mbit 1080/50p mode. This camera was running firmware version v0.4 and so by no means final yet. What I found impressed me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P4INKiller Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Oh man, that design. I would love to wrap my man hands around it. If what you say about the improved colours is accurate, that alone is a good reason to upgrade (for me at least). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastroiani Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Would love focus peaking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amweber21 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'd really love to get the 12-35mm combo. Anyone hear anything when that is available for preorder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axel Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='EOSHD' timestamp='1347992329' post='18473'][color=#333333][font=Helvetica, Arial, FreeSans, sans-serif][size=3]There’s very minor moire and aliasing present in this early hardware. Whilst the GH2 rendered sloping horizontals and fine patterns extremely cleanly with no shimmering, the GH3 I used had a touch of aliasing and in some cases even a bit of moire on a stripy shirt viewed from a distance. VERY minor, but like the OM-D E-M5 it was there, at this early stage. Hopefully this will be fixed for the final hardware / software revision in November but it is a very minor thing and I feel the benefits of the better all-round sensor outweigh this drawback. This issue however for now goes top of my list of things to fix along with the introduction of peaking.[/size][/font][/color] [/quote] Okay, so we have to look for more moire. Hope it's going to be solved. One more thing, whilst you are there: Please ask them, if there will be a rubber eyecap for the GH3, included or as an extra. As banal as it sounds, it is almost more important (at least for me) than peaking. In bright daylight, if I use the viewfinder, I want to concentrate on the image without hurting my brows. It is also more comfortable handheld. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnymossville Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Thanks Andrew for doing this. Best insight into the GH3 I've seen so far. Sitting there on the table next to the 5DMIII it looks great! Hope they can fix the moire "problem", the GH2 handles moire very well. domonicwhite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tungah Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 I'm very worried about skin tones. Will we be seeing more pictures of Pocahontas, Andrew? Germy1979 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simco123 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Was there a punch up with Bloom :mellow: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuickHitRecord Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Moire? I know that it's an early version, but how disappointing. Being able to shoot without thinking about moire that was one of the big reasons that I switched from Canon EF-S over to Panasonic MFT in the first place. I really hope that this is at the top of Panasonic's list to fix. domonicwhite and Ernesto Mantaras 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Germy1979 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 [quote name='tungah' timestamp='1347995078' post='18484'] I'm very worried about skin tones. Will we be seeing more pictures of Pocahontas, Andrew? [/quote] Bump. I too am on the fence about skin tones. I will PM a suggested list of angles. gescom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy lee Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Andrew any sign of the banding we all get on gh2 if you shoot the sky ? is the new sensor better for this issue? and will the focus assist work via hdmi if we use an external monitor? Rolling shutter ? how is this looking! any better than the GH2 thanks Andy zephyrnoid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg101 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 what a beautiful bit of styling. it'd be a coin toss between the gh3 and pocahontas... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Abrar Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Andrew, please also try to get some test footage from the Canon 6D. It would be very interesting to see if Aliasing is stronger than on the 5D Mark III and to see if the resolution of the 6D is higher. From the GH3 test footage I've seen, I also agree that Aliasing of the GH3 is definitely stronger than of the GH2. I don't think that this can be fixed with a newer firmware version, unfortunately. domonicwhite 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domonicwhite Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Thanks for the great info on the GH3 - your article raises some really interesting points. The price difference for the UK is disappointing but it's the mention of the 'm' word which made my heart sink. I'd be very surprised if they were able to fix that before release as it would presumably require a hardware change, and I would have thought that's all locked down now ready for mass manufacture. I can't see how they can fix moire etc in firmware - unless they muddy up the image somehow but that'll make some folks consider the 5D route again given the added attraction of FF. It's never simple is it :) SO much choice at the moment - which is great, but I thought the GH3 was going to leap to the top of the pile as a no brainer... Hopefully it still will, but not having to worry about moire/aliasing is a really important factor for many I'm sure. Yes you can work around these things, but so much nicer if you can free up that part of the brain to worry about other (more creative) things. Gonna have to wait for more example footage of the other cams for comparison now... :( Andrew - I know it would be a shed load of work, and therefore this isn't a reasonable request - but do you think a collaborative side by side comparison of all the main players (5DMKIII, 6D, BMCC, D600, GH3, A99, etc, etc, etc) could be possible to pull together on your site? Given the interest in the Zacuto Shootouts I bet lots of people would find this invaluable.... Looking forward to read more of your findings tomorrow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marco Abrar Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanpoiuyt Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Wondering if Telecrop mode has been improved noise-wise and if accessable when using hdmi out. Thanks for all your hard work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJB Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Moire, aliasing, no XLR accessory, no focus peaking and viewing problems with EVF. Firmware can only fix so much. Is it possible to adjust audio levels whilst recording? Is noise and banding reduced in ETC mode? Panasonic have admitted that the popularity of the GH2 surprised them. Maybe the GH2 was just a wonderful fluke of design? Did the GH2 design team work on the GH3? afaccon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronChicago Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 What does it smell like at Photokina? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoodlum Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The Moire issues suggest they may be using the same sensor as the E-M5. The sensor resolution is an exact match too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afaccon Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Looking forward to see your test videos! ---> Any word on uncompressed 4:2:2 HDMI out? ---> Professional XLR solution? I'm considering buying two GH3 or buying one Full frame camera (sony A99 is tempting even though the iso is 6400 max)! What shall I do with my GH2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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